Racconan Martial Arts?

Postby Canis_lupus on Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:12 pm

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Postby Axelgear on Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:33 am

Well, politicians DO have legal immunity to misdemeanors. In fact, they're immune to all forms of "arrest" unless it involves treason, is a felony, or a breach of the peace. They also can't be sued for slander.

Though I'm guessing he was more worried about losing his job for arresting the politicians family than anything... Poor officer...
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Postby Frigidmagi on Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:01 am

I'm wondering if a martial art designed by a race of sapient, clawed and sharp toothed mammals who seemed quite comfortable in the trees wouldn't be a bit different from one designed by a race of thin skinned, weak toothed, not so comfortable in the trees primates? More quick slashes meant to cause incovient bleeding, prehaps some biting?

One would also have to factor in that a martial art that was targeted against the same furry creatures would be alot different then one meant to give them the tools to take out a much larger but thinner skined foe in bare handed combat.

Then again they did develop some type of firearm to help out...
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Postby TMLutas on Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:23 pm

Axelgear wrote:Well, politicians DO have legal immunity to misdemeanors. In fact, they're immune to all forms of "arrest" unless it involves treason, is a felony, or a breach of the peace. They also can't be sued for slander.

Though I'm guessing he was more worried about losing his job for arresting the politicians family than anything... Poor officer...


That may be true in Canada but it is generally not the case in the US. Practically, it is imprudent to lean too hard on a politician but that's a different matter.
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Postby Axelgear on Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:21 pm

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Postby Frigidmagi on Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:12 pm

This immunity applies to members "during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same.


The immunity only applys for certain times, nor does it provide blanket immunity from being investagated and punished for criminal activities.

I'm sure both Rep Jefferson and Rep DeLay wish differently.
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Postby Axelgear on Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:45 am

Actually, it has been very broadly applied. Pretty much all politicians have drunk driving and parking tickets they've made go away (Look up their criminal records). As to Tom DeLay and Jefferson, they both committed a felony, which this does not cover.
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Postby Deckard Canine on Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:50 am

frigidmagi wrote:I'm wondering if a martial art designed by a race of sapient, clawed and sharp toothed mammals who seemed quite comfortable in the trees wouldn't be a bit different from one designed by a race of thin skinned, weak toothed, not so comfortable in the trees primates? More quick slashes meant to cause incovient bleeding, prehaps some biting?


And how about taking their fur, whiskers, and tails into account? This could be cute if it weren't so violent.
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Postby Frigidmagi on Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:41 am

Actually, it has been very broadly applied. Pretty much all politicians have drunk driving and parking tickets they've made go away (Look up their criminal records). As to Tom DeLay and Jefferson, they both committed a felony, which this does not cover.


That is an example of corruption at work not the law. Legally speaking the immunity only applies when the government is in session or when the politico is heading towards a session or going home away from a session. The fact that this is abused is a side issue.


Back to the topic of beating people up, I was wondering why we've never seen any of the characters bite or claw someone? The Royals and Redcaps use fist, when actually it would be more effective for them to use claws... Unless the claws can't actually break through the pelt and hide of most creatures? While small they seemed sharp enough from the few close ups we've had.
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Postby MikeVanPelt on Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:48 am

frigidmagi wrote:Back to the topic of beating people up, I was wondering why we've never seen any of the characters bite or claw someone? The Royals and Redcaps use fist, when actually it would be more effective for them to use claws... Unless the claws can't actually break through the pelt and hide of most creatures? While small they seemed sharp enough from the few close ups we've had.


Hm... the claws of mundane raccoons don't seem to be weapons, based on the ones I fed raccoon kibble to at the Birmingham Zoo many long years ago.

Their teeth, though, are definitely weapons, and every now and then we see that the Rac Conan teeth have some fair-sized canines.

Not, however, it seems to me, enough to be really formidable weapons. In fights, humans occasionally bite (cf. Mike Tyson) but it's not usually the most effective tactic. Presumably the same holds for Rac Conans, though their bite probably inflicts more damage than a similiar-size human.

Chimps, and especially baboons, have quite potent weapons in their teeth. I suspect Quentyn's similarity to mundane raccoons is about as close as the average human's similarity to a shaved chimp or baboon. (If Quentyn ever finds it necessary to try to "pass" as a mundane raccoon, we'll have some data points on the extent of the physical differences.)
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Postby Frigidmagi on Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:05 pm

Here's the thing, raccoons use their teeth to kill their prey. If Quentyn is close enough to a base line raccoon (If I may use the term?) his own teeth would be capable enough of killing thin skinned creatures (like... humans for example) but not thicker skinned creatures (a certain breed of sapient croc people come to mind).

Raccoon teeth are tougher, longer and sharper then humans, whose teeth are not at all suited for bring down and killing prey. While omnivores, raccoons do hunt and kill their prey. There are records of raccoons mauling large dogs and killing cats.

Now granted it's possible that Quentyn's teeth aren't nearly that strong or sharp. After all his specis is sapient and has figured out how to use tools and cook their meat. That being said, his bite should be miles worst then anything an unarmed human can do without picking him up. Trust me picking up a coon is the worse thing you can do when you've alarmed them, their skin is rather "loose" and they do not like being handled by a bunch of naked monkeys (that's a joke, let's leave evolution vs creationism in it's own thread!).
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Postby Deckard Canine on Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:16 pm

Then there is the question of whether Rac Conan civilization would approve of biting. For a time in ancient Greek wrestling, the only two rules were against biting and eye-gouging.
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Postby Wanderwolf on Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:49 pm

Well, two points come to mind:

1. Biting is very useful if you don't have a hand free. Otherwise, it's a Dumb Move, as it puts your eyes, nose and skull within easy striking distance of your opponent.

2. Raccoon claws aren't very useful as wepaons because they're specialized for digging and climbing, while requiring a shorter length for the raccoon's dexterous paws to work their best.

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Postby Sapphire on Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:38 pm

Well, this assumes you couldn't enhance the claws artificially, like with a claw sharpener, or maybe some claw-equivalent of strenthening nail polish.
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Postby Earl McClaw on Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:06 pm

sapphire wrote:Well, this assumes you couldn't enhance the claws artificially, like with a claw sharpener, or maybe some claw-equivalent of strenthening nail polish.

A hand-held "claw" weapon would seem more practical, but if you can do that just make a blade.
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Postby Canis_lupus on Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:15 pm

but the claw weapons would work with unarmed(I know) fighting styles.
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Postby Timtitan on Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:39 am

claw weapons? just asking for trouble in my opinion. They only become useful if their user is silly enough to train in unarmed combat, then find himself in a knife fight. A proper fighting style historically, in europe at least started with unarmed, then trained daggers, then swords, and maybe polearms after that.
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Postby Deckard Canine on Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:54 am

sapphire wrote:Well, this assumes you couldn't enhance the claws artificially, like with a claw sharpener, or maybe some claw-equivalent of strenthening nail polish.


Or heck, why not use good old-fashioned lux to accomplish that? I like that idea better, at least, than Racconan warriors with press-on nails.
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Re: Racconan Martial Arts?

Postby rodulph on Fri May 07, 2010 2:27 am

I really want to know martial arts techniques with matching the best weapon as my self protection.
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