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Which just shows you definitely ain't a "Southerner".Deckard Canine wrote:I read that far too literally.Sharuuk wrote:Hot pee-can
Ever'where else up north of us they call it "p'CAHN". Hmmph.....damn Yankees never could talk right. *poke, poke, jab, jab, needle, needle..*
(Just kidding )
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In Texas, it was always "pah'cahn"
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Or as Mater said: "Y'all did what in your cup???"Sharuuk wrote:Which just shows you definitely ain't a "Southerner".Deckard Canine wrote:I read that far too literally.Sharuuk wrote:Hot pee-can
Ever'where else up north of us they call it "p'CAHN". Hmmph.....damn Yankees never could talk right. *poke, poke, jab, jab, needle, needle..*
(Just kidding )
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Now what's a bit funny is that I use both pronunciations depending on the circumstances and setting. If I'm in a sorta upscale restaurant, I'll say "p'CAHN" stressing the last sylable. A rib shack or 'Southern Home Cookin' type place..."Pee-can"...emphasis on the 'p' and stretching it out into 2 words.Deckard Canine wrote:You know, I don't remember the last time I said "pecan" out loud. (I'm just not big on nuts, except maybe the loony kind.) But it seems to me that I do stress the first syllable, at least when it comes before "pie." I just don't draw it out enough to suggest two words instead of one.
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This whole discussion on the nature of colloquial dialects in regards to the pronuciation of 'pecan' juxtoposed against 'pecan pie' made me realize that, as far as I know, I tend towards saying the former in the soft 'A' sound--the
'northern' pronounciation--yet I say the latter in the nasal sound--the 'southern' pronouncation.
However, it is worth mentioning that there aren't many pecan pies down here in Kentucky, 'cause if you're going to make a pie with pecans, you might as well make a Derby Pie.
With Mint Julep and Bourban Balls.
'northern' pronounciation--yet I say the latter in the nasal sound--the 'southern' pronouncation.
However, it is worth mentioning that there aren't many pecan pies down here in Kentucky, 'cause if you're going to make a pie with pecans, you might as well make a Derby Pie.
With Mint Julep and Bourban Balls.
I would have hoped to say something meaninful, or possible inciteful. But, alas.
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How goes the world today? Clockwise or Counter? Perhaps it will spin itself mad, curling a spring-from into endlessness.
Or maybe, today, it will just stop.
How goes the world today? From right to left or left to right? Perhaps it runs round mad reels, turning in on itself only at long last to blow away with the leaves and gutter-trash.
How goes the world today? Top to Bottom or Bottom to Top? Perhaps it will rise high enough so that it may see the back of its own head, in a maddening tunnel of infinity.
How goes the world today? Clockwise or Counter? Perhaps it will spin itself mad, curling a spring-from into endlessness.
Or maybe, today, it will just stop.
Here in central Texas we say p'CAHN or pehCAHN.Sharuuk wrote:Which just shows you definitely ain't a "Southerner".
Ever'where else up north of us they call it "p'CAHN". Hmmph.....damn Yankees never could talk right.
A "pee-can" is something you keep under the bed in case you need to relieve yourself at night. I've never heard anyone refer to pecans that way around here. To me it comes across sort of like a Yankee parody of how they think southerners talk. (Other words that get abused are: rodeo, howdy, and sometimes y'all)
A caveat. . . I don't know if you'd say I really live in "The South" or not. Texas has always been partly a Southern state and partly a Western state. Where I live, right in the middle, is about where The West Begins and The South Peters Out.
As for pecan pie. . . Nothing is more heavenly when it's done right -- but doing it right is kind of tricky. It's not as forgiving as apple pie. (And lots of people manage to mess up apple pie, putting in too much cinnamon or that awful, goopy, gelatinous filler.)
Well, maybe I shouldn't have used the 2 "e's" , but I wanted to emphasize the long 'e' sound and short 'a' thus making it sound like 2 words. And just for the record...I call it a 'rodeo' not ro-day-oh like in Kalifornya....say 'howdy' ALL the time...and most definitely use "y'all" (singular) and "y'alls" (plural) in everyday conversation.Zobeid wrote:A "pee-can" is something you keep under the bed in case you need to relieve yourself at night. I've never heard anyone refer to pecans that way around here. To me it comes across sort of like a Yankee parody of how they think southerners talk. (Other words that get abused are: rodeo, howdy, and sometimes y'all)
(An' it AIN'T no affectation neither. ) I switch back and forth between the Kings English and Redneck colloquial all the time.
AMEN to that brother!!!As for pecan pie. . . Nothing is more heavenly when it's done right -- but doing it right is kind of tricky. It's not as forgiving as apple pie. (And lots of people manage to mess up apple pie, putting in too much cinnamon or that awful, goopy, gelatinous filler.)
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Who the heck says "pecan" like "p'cahn"? That's crazy talk.
I've heard it said that way, but dang, man, that's just plain dumb, 'cuz it ain't spelled that way. If it was said that way, it would've been spelled with an I instead of an E.
I mean, heck, my father grew up in Ohio, and my mother grew up in California, and they BOTH say pecan with the long E sound. O_o And I asked my friend in Arizona just now via the wondrous Internet, and he says it with the long E sound too.
Crazy people, callin' them 'p'cahns.' ;p
I've heard it said that way, but dang, man, that's just plain dumb, 'cuz it ain't spelled that way. If it was said that way, it would've been spelled with an I instead of an E.
I mean, heck, my father grew up in Ohio, and my mother grew up in California, and they BOTH say pecan with the long E sound. O_o And I asked my friend in Arizona just now via the wondrous Internet, and he says it with the long E sound too.
Crazy people, callin' them 'p'cahns.' ;p
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