This thread seems like a good place for a quote!
"Nobody has the right to make you feel inferior without your consent" -Eleanor Roosevelt. I think I got that right...close enough, anyway.
"Goodbye, Large people!"
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Dr Legostar
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"sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will emotionally scar me for decades"
I actually have a ton of experience with all of those...
I actually have a ton of experience with all of those...
-D. M. Jeftinija Pharm.D., Ph.D. -- Yes, I've got two doctorates and I'm arrogant about it, what have *you* done with *your* life?
"People who don't care about anything will never understand the people who do." "yeah.. but we won't care."
"Legostar's on the first page of the guide. His opinion is worth more than both of yours."--Yeahduff
"People who don't care about anything will never understand the people who do." "yeah.. but we won't care."
"Legostar's on the first page of the guide. His opinion is worth more than both of yours."--Yeahduff
The idea of high school being hell will always be foreign to me, at least for the reason it was for most people. The high school I graduated from was a really nice place. The people there were all nice and friendly to me, even though I was the fat kid. High School was hard for me for totally different reasons, most of them my own doing.
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Dr Legostar
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yeah it helps to actually open the books once in a while.rock_dash wrote:The idea of high school being hell will always be foreign to me, at least for the reason it was for most people. The high school I graduated from was a really nice place. The people there were all nice and friendly to me, even though I was the fat kid. High School was hard for me for totally different reasons, most of them my own doing.
-D. M. Jeftinija Pharm.D., Ph.D. -- Yes, I've got two doctorates and I'm arrogant about it, what have *you* done with *your* life?
"People who don't care about anything will never understand the people who do." "yeah.. but we won't care."
"Legostar's on the first page of the guide. His opinion is worth more than both of yours."--Yeahduff
"People who don't care about anything will never understand the people who do." "yeah.. but we won't care."
"Legostar's on the first page of the guide. His opinion is worth more than both of yours."--Yeahduff
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I got picked on a lot in grade school 'cause I was the quiet girl. Hell, teachers would stick problem kids next to me hoping I would have a 'calming effect' on them...nevermind what that meant for ME. Yeah, and after school there'd be thrown backpacks and sticks in bike spokes. Things like that. Actually, high school was pretty good for me. I hung out with a group of good, rational people. Strength in numbers, as it were. There were a couple of times when the class asshats would pick on me, but they didn't single me out. They were just asshats. When I was picked on, I took the high road. I generally feel better about myself for doing so, but I'm not sure it solved much. However, snipping back of them would have only escelated things.
But we're acting as though these are the only two options. There are more. You just have to be creative.
For instance- would it be possible to resolve it through her boyfriend? Could you get your friends to boycott playing with him until she stops, and TELL him that? I don't know what kind of person he is. If he's reasonable, she'll suddenly have trouble coming at her from a completly new direction. If not, it's really not a big loss.
Of course, all this is without knowing the context and circumstances, so it's all guesswork, really.
But we're acting as though these are the only two options. There are more. You just have to be creative.
For instance- would it be possible to resolve it through her boyfriend? Could you get your friends to boycott playing with him until she stops, and TELL him that? I don't know what kind of person he is. If he's reasonable, she'll suddenly have trouble coming at her from a completly new direction. If not, it's really not a big loss.
Of course, all this is without knowing the context and circumstances, so it's all guesswork, really.
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Frankly, I'm disappointed in all of these resolutions. They are either too mild, or two passive-aggressive, unless expanded upon. This skinny bitch need some learning, and it's time for a master's degree in pain!
As a fellow "big" person, I know what you're going through, and I'm not of the "ignore it, and it'll go away" mindset. This skinny bitch obviously wants the opportunity for confrontation with you. That's why she's doing it. That she's keeping it up despite your attempts at a diplomatic solutions tells me that she finds you to be a weak and easy target to make war on. So, if it were me, I'd go Weather Underground on her ass, and "bring the war home" to her!
First, disarm her. The only way to do that is to make light of your weight yourself. Take every opportunity to remind people that you know you're fat, you know they know you're fat, and you don't give a shit what they think. This means making fat jokes at your own expense. Often. Loving your rolls is empowering, because if you're making the fat jokes, ain't nobody else gonna see the point in doing it to hurt you. I'd recommend printing t-shirts with statements like "your boyfriend loves my fat ass" or "in the event of famine, only the fat survive" or "fat = love" or "I can bench press TWO of you skinny bitches!" or "at least my pelvis doesn't bruise from doing it missionary" or (for your boyfriend) "I love to eat out"... (all of these sayings are MINE! by the way, so don't try to steal them and sell them. They's trademarked!)
Well, anyway, you get the point.
Second, arm your own damned self! I'd recommend coming up with your own endearing nickname for her! Perhaps "Herpes Skank", or "Dimwit" or "Dimbulb", or (of course) "Skinny Bitch", or something poetic and rhymie like "Emo Ho". Just make sure it's short enough to be remembered, and be sure to look directly at her and call her by her new nicky EVERY TIME YOU SEE HER. Wanna make it extra sour? Say it as nicely and sweetly as you can. If you can get away with hugging her while calling her by her new epithet, do it! She might shrug it off the first time or two, but guaranteed, when you get into the double digits of a "Primer Painted Jezebel" or "Poor Goth Trash" or the simple and elegant "Snaggletooth", and keep it up for weeks, that shit's gonna itch at her like a bad case of crabs. Plus, if it's catchy enough, and you say it often enough with conviction in public, it might just stick as her most memorable school nickname, which people will reminiscently call her at class reunions!
It must be pointed out that this is where some of the former advisors stopped, but I contend that the game must be stepped up. Shots have been fired, and the war is on. She knows it, and since she wanted it, she'll be ready for it. Conniving skeeves generally take the "nasty rumors" tactic as their front offensive, in addition to open mockery. Let's face it, if she's smart, she'll give you an eating disorder, and if she's dumb, she'll make you a lesbian with AIDS. Either way, her opening play will be easily ignored if you're strong, and even more easily destroyed. Counter with the "accidents happen" defense. "Accidently" bump into her all the time. "Accidently" slam her fingers in locker doors. "Accidently" spray her with scalding sink water in the bathroom. "Accidently" key her car. "Accidently" trip her in the crowded hallway. "Accidently" spit on her, or put gum in her hair. The "accidents" will send her the message that you're in this like a fucking kamikaze, yet, if you do it all right, she won't be able to prove these aren't mere coincidence. More than that, it'll show her that she's not dealing with a person who's worried about whether classmates think she's got bulimia.
After a couple of weeks of strange daily misfortunes, she might begin laying off. Then again, she might not, and will try to step up the game. She may even be a true badass, and rise to a real challenge in some way. It doesn't matter if or even how she does this, short of physical confrontation. (If your actions up till now DO lead to physical confrontation, please refer to the last two paragraphs.) If I've learned anything from years of playing strategy games, it's that the only real end to war is total annihilation of one or both sides. This means that you can't blink, especially if you have the upper hand. You must now steel yourself against the possibility that, in order to win the day and teach this and all punks who they're messing with, it might mean your own destruction. You're going to have to go sociopathic. If by this time, you're winning, you now know she fears you. If, by this time, you aren't winning, MAKE her fear you! You should become so hard at this point you scare yourself! You want to see that fear in her! You want to lick that fear-sweat from off her forehead!
Since you should now be in a state of standoff (either strong-side or stalemate; you should not be losing) it's time for the arms race. First, you need a posse. It don't matter who they are, as long as they're tough, and they got your back. If your friends can't cut it as warriors, then they're out. You could try to go lone wolf at this, but that could just make you out to be a crazy chick, which will hurt your cause. With fellow haters at your side against her and her haters, it looks a lot more like war, which is to your advantage at this point. If you have disciples, it's a lot easier to gain general supporters. Second, go for the juke. Now that you've shown your capability to employ strong psychological warfare, and you got people watching out for you, it's time to really get inside her head. Stop creating accidents, but still sweetly greet her with her new name ("Rotbox"?) every time you see her.
Only, from this point foreward, stare her down every time you see her. Here's how the staredown works. Look her straight in the eyes, and hold her gaze. Say your greeting with a smile, and then let the smile melt away into a spookily blank expression. Don't look mean. Don't look dopey. Look sharp, but withhold all outward expression, like you're contemplating something. If she looks away, keep on looking. Keep staring at her the whole time she's in front of you. As you walk past, turn around and walk backwards a few steps while staring at her, before turning around, and becoming human again. The lack of emotion while you stare at her is very important. You need to show a sort of impassivity, as if her existence just doesn't matter to you beyond annoying you, while the act of staring itself tells her that you're wondering what her blood tastes like. They call this cobra behavior, because the cobra is obviously willing to strike you and kill you, but appears to remain calm and cold right up until the actual strike.
If you do this right for a week or two, you'll reach another threshold point. Most likely, she's beginning to break. You've proven after a month or so of nutty behavior that you're not just trying to act "tough" for her benefit, and in fact, by fucking with you, she's walked down the wrong road. If she isn't a bit frazzled by your "accidents" and your staredown, then she is truly hard, and a worthy opponent.
It's time for propaganda. Really, though, you can employ the propaganda at any point in the war, since it helps to discredit her among peers. However, doing it at this point will serve to lead up to the final assault on her. So, find or make something up which is truly embarrassing about her. I'm talking mortifying, like naked webcam pictures of her. If you can't find something, then some counterfeiting is in order. Photoshop her face onto a picture of a girl getting gangbanged by twenty guys. Try to find someone with her body type, and do a good job of the manipulation, too. Then, take your incriminating evidence, and make a thousand photocopies of it, and staple it to every grocery store bulletin board and telephone pole in your neighborhood. Be sure the flyer has her full name on it, and an arrow pointing to her, to ensure full comprehension of passers-bye who see it. Definitely put it somewhere where she'll find it. Start on a Friday night, and repeat the process with different propaganda throughout the weekend. By Monday, the final showdown should be at hand.
Now's the moment of truth. She's been irreparably humiliated on her own turf, and if she hasn't tried to kick your ass before now, and she don't try at this point, you've all but won! Now comes the blood. So, point of advice. You know the expression "don't bring a knife to a gunfight"? Well, you'd best be packing. Mind you, I'm not necessarily saying find a gun. However, you WILL need a weapon. There is no such thing as fighting dirty in a street brawl, and the only person without honor is the one who got beaten so badly, he shit in his pants. So, go find yourself a suitable weapon. If you think she's the type who might shoot you with a gun, go find a gun of your own, and shoot her first! If you think she'll just want to stomp you real good, a knife, board with nails in it, baseball bat, or ninja sword should suit you just fine. The point is, you've worked real hard to get to this point with the upper hand, mentally, you don't want to lose your leverage, physically, when the shit hits the fan. Remember, you don't want to be a knife-holder in a gunfight. You DO want to be a knife-holder in a fistfight!
Deathmatch time. It has led up to this, and it must happen. The rules are simple. One of you must die before the fight is over, and a winner is declared. The one who hasn't died is usually the winner. If she doesn't want to fight you, then the win should be easy. Just a simple coup de grace. If she does want to fight you, she'll probably go in saying as much. Don't waste time with words, just strike while she's calling you fat. Remember, the best fight you can fight is the one you don't work up a sweat in, or come away bruised from. So, if you can run her through, or knock her senseless while she's still whining about how you "ruined her life" or threatening to "kick your ass", then that's a good thing for you! If she manages to evade or parry, then just keep poking at her until one of you is dead. It bears saying that if you're worried she might gain the upper hand in a tussle, then perhaps you should take the opportunity to lame her somehow, shortly before the fight. I'd recommend hitting her with a car, or pushing her from a height, if you can. That way, victory for you should be all but assured. Hopefully, if you've followed my advice here, and come to battle with a badder attitude and a better weapon, then bully for you! You have won the day!
For the truly dense, the above was SATIRE!
The problem with high school is that it creates a pack/herd mentality in people. By chasing you away from her "territory", she's established herself as Alpha. If you want for her to quit picking on you, you need to become Alpha, or something more dangerous. One thing about all of this does ring true. To get this skinny bitch off your back, you can't just act tough. You have to BE tough. It's what got me through being the fat kid in high school. I learned to speak my mind, bluntly, whenever I damn well felt like it. I've even been popped in the face for what I've said a few times, and it was always worth being assaulted. So, toughen up, and don't hold back. If she says "Hello, large person!" to you, and you find yourself thinking "Shut the fuck up, you smug, stupid cunt!", then, by all means, SAY IT OUT LOUD. If you can't get honesty out without stuttering, practice in the mirror until it becomes natural to you. Even if it resolves nothing, public displays of honest thinking will make you stronger, and as you get stronger, you will look stronger to others. Believe me, I know.
Just remember, if it does come to physical violence, do bring a weapon.
As a fellow "big" person, I know what you're going through, and I'm not of the "ignore it, and it'll go away" mindset. This skinny bitch obviously wants the opportunity for confrontation with you. That's why she's doing it. That she's keeping it up despite your attempts at a diplomatic solutions tells me that she finds you to be a weak and easy target to make war on. So, if it were me, I'd go Weather Underground on her ass, and "bring the war home" to her!
First, disarm her. The only way to do that is to make light of your weight yourself. Take every opportunity to remind people that you know you're fat, you know they know you're fat, and you don't give a shit what they think. This means making fat jokes at your own expense. Often. Loving your rolls is empowering, because if you're making the fat jokes, ain't nobody else gonna see the point in doing it to hurt you. I'd recommend printing t-shirts with statements like "your boyfriend loves my fat ass" or "in the event of famine, only the fat survive" or "fat = love" or "I can bench press TWO of you skinny bitches!" or "at least my pelvis doesn't bruise from doing it missionary" or (for your boyfriend) "I love to eat out"... (all of these sayings are MINE! by the way, so don't try to steal them and sell them. They's trademarked!)
Well, anyway, you get the point.
Second, arm your own damned self! I'd recommend coming up with your own endearing nickname for her! Perhaps "Herpes Skank", or "Dimwit" or "Dimbulb", or (of course) "Skinny Bitch", or something poetic and rhymie like "Emo Ho". Just make sure it's short enough to be remembered, and be sure to look directly at her and call her by her new nicky EVERY TIME YOU SEE HER. Wanna make it extra sour? Say it as nicely and sweetly as you can. If you can get away with hugging her while calling her by her new epithet, do it! She might shrug it off the first time or two, but guaranteed, when you get into the double digits of a "Primer Painted Jezebel" or "Poor Goth Trash" or the simple and elegant "Snaggletooth", and keep it up for weeks, that shit's gonna itch at her like a bad case of crabs. Plus, if it's catchy enough, and you say it often enough with conviction in public, it might just stick as her most memorable school nickname, which people will reminiscently call her at class reunions!
It must be pointed out that this is where some of the former advisors stopped, but I contend that the game must be stepped up. Shots have been fired, and the war is on. She knows it, and since she wanted it, she'll be ready for it. Conniving skeeves generally take the "nasty rumors" tactic as their front offensive, in addition to open mockery. Let's face it, if she's smart, she'll give you an eating disorder, and if she's dumb, she'll make you a lesbian with AIDS. Either way, her opening play will be easily ignored if you're strong, and even more easily destroyed. Counter with the "accidents happen" defense. "Accidently" bump into her all the time. "Accidently" slam her fingers in locker doors. "Accidently" spray her with scalding sink water in the bathroom. "Accidently" key her car. "Accidently" trip her in the crowded hallway. "Accidently" spit on her, or put gum in her hair. The "accidents" will send her the message that you're in this like a fucking kamikaze, yet, if you do it all right, she won't be able to prove these aren't mere coincidence. More than that, it'll show her that she's not dealing with a person who's worried about whether classmates think she's got bulimia.
After a couple of weeks of strange daily misfortunes, she might begin laying off. Then again, she might not, and will try to step up the game. She may even be a true badass, and rise to a real challenge in some way. It doesn't matter if or even how she does this, short of physical confrontation. (If your actions up till now DO lead to physical confrontation, please refer to the last two paragraphs.) If I've learned anything from years of playing strategy games, it's that the only real end to war is total annihilation of one or both sides. This means that you can't blink, especially if you have the upper hand. You must now steel yourself against the possibility that, in order to win the day and teach this and all punks who they're messing with, it might mean your own destruction. You're going to have to go sociopathic. If by this time, you're winning, you now know she fears you. If, by this time, you aren't winning, MAKE her fear you! You should become so hard at this point you scare yourself! You want to see that fear in her! You want to lick that fear-sweat from off her forehead!
Since you should now be in a state of standoff (either strong-side or stalemate; you should not be losing) it's time for the arms race. First, you need a posse. It don't matter who they are, as long as they're tough, and they got your back. If your friends can't cut it as warriors, then they're out. You could try to go lone wolf at this, but that could just make you out to be a crazy chick, which will hurt your cause. With fellow haters at your side against her and her haters, it looks a lot more like war, which is to your advantage at this point. If you have disciples, it's a lot easier to gain general supporters. Second, go for the juke. Now that you've shown your capability to employ strong psychological warfare, and you got people watching out for you, it's time to really get inside her head. Stop creating accidents, but still sweetly greet her with her new name ("Rotbox"?) every time you see her.
Only, from this point foreward, stare her down every time you see her. Here's how the staredown works. Look her straight in the eyes, and hold her gaze. Say your greeting with a smile, and then let the smile melt away into a spookily blank expression. Don't look mean. Don't look dopey. Look sharp, but withhold all outward expression, like you're contemplating something. If she looks away, keep on looking. Keep staring at her the whole time she's in front of you. As you walk past, turn around and walk backwards a few steps while staring at her, before turning around, and becoming human again. The lack of emotion while you stare at her is very important. You need to show a sort of impassivity, as if her existence just doesn't matter to you beyond annoying you, while the act of staring itself tells her that you're wondering what her blood tastes like. They call this cobra behavior, because the cobra is obviously willing to strike you and kill you, but appears to remain calm and cold right up until the actual strike.
If you do this right for a week or two, you'll reach another threshold point. Most likely, she's beginning to break. You've proven after a month or so of nutty behavior that you're not just trying to act "tough" for her benefit, and in fact, by fucking with you, she's walked down the wrong road. If she isn't a bit frazzled by your "accidents" and your staredown, then she is truly hard, and a worthy opponent.
It's time for propaganda. Really, though, you can employ the propaganda at any point in the war, since it helps to discredit her among peers. However, doing it at this point will serve to lead up to the final assault on her. So, find or make something up which is truly embarrassing about her. I'm talking mortifying, like naked webcam pictures of her. If you can't find something, then some counterfeiting is in order. Photoshop her face onto a picture of a girl getting gangbanged by twenty guys. Try to find someone with her body type, and do a good job of the manipulation, too. Then, take your incriminating evidence, and make a thousand photocopies of it, and staple it to every grocery store bulletin board and telephone pole in your neighborhood. Be sure the flyer has her full name on it, and an arrow pointing to her, to ensure full comprehension of passers-bye who see it. Definitely put it somewhere where she'll find it. Start on a Friday night, and repeat the process with different propaganda throughout the weekend. By Monday, the final showdown should be at hand.
Now's the moment of truth. She's been irreparably humiliated on her own turf, and if she hasn't tried to kick your ass before now, and she don't try at this point, you've all but won! Now comes the blood. So, point of advice. You know the expression "don't bring a knife to a gunfight"? Well, you'd best be packing. Mind you, I'm not necessarily saying find a gun. However, you WILL need a weapon. There is no such thing as fighting dirty in a street brawl, and the only person without honor is the one who got beaten so badly, he shit in his pants. So, go find yourself a suitable weapon. If you think she's the type who might shoot you with a gun, go find a gun of your own, and shoot her first! If you think she'll just want to stomp you real good, a knife, board with nails in it, baseball bat, or ninja sword should suit you just fine. The point is, you've worked real hard to get to this point with the upper hand, mentally, you don't want to lose your leverage, physically, when the shit hits the fan. Remember, you don't want to be a knife-holder in a gunfight. You DO want to be a knife-holder in a fistfight!
Deathmatch time. It has led up to this, and it must happen. The rules are simple. One of you must die before the fight is over, and a winner is declared. The one who hasn't died is usually the winner. If she doesn't want to fight you, then the win should be easy. Just a simple coup de grace. If she does want to fight you, she'll probably go in saying as much. Don't waste time with words, just strike while she's calling you fat. Remember, the best fight you can fight is the one you don't work up a sweat in, or come away bruised from. So, if you can run her through, or knock her senseless while she's still whining about how you "ruined her life" or threatening to "kick your ass", then that's a good thing for you! If she manages to evade or parry, then just keep poking at her until one of you is dead. It bears saying that if you're worried she might gain the upper hand in a tussle, then perhaps you should take the opportunity to lame her somehow, shortly before the fight. I'd recommend hitting her with a car, or pushing her from a height, if you can. That way, victory for you should be all but assured. Hopefully, if you've followed my advice here, and come to battle with a badder attitude and a better weapon, then bully for you! You have won the day!
For the truly dense, the above was SATIRE!
The problem with high school is that it creates a pack/herd mentality in people. By chasing you away from her "territory", she's established herself as Alpha. If you want for her to quit picking on you, you need to become Alpha, or something more dangerous. One thing about all of this does ring true. To get this skinny bitch off your back, you can't just act tough. You have to BE tough. It's what got me through being the fat kid in high school. I learned to speak my mind, bluntly, whenever I damn well felt like it. I've even been popped in the face for what I've said a few times, and it was always worth being assaulted. So, toughen up, and don't hold back. If she says "Hello, large person!" to you, and you find yourself thinking "Shut the fuck up, you smug, stupid cunt!", then, by all means, SAY IT OUT LOUD. If you can't get honesty out without stuttering, practice in the mirror until it becomes natural to you. Even if it resolves nothing, public displays of honest thinking will make you stronger, and as you get stronger, you will look stronger to others. Believe me, I know.
Just remember, if it does come to physical violence, do bring a weapon.
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Blackaby
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LOL Buster.
Also - having re-read the situation a few times I have to say that I'd personally deal with the situation exactly the same way as Emo Ho has. If someone who I despised tried to chum in to my freindship group/into my space I'd do just that. And I have in the past. If you've been rejected from the 'gang', isn't the best thing to do just to stay away from them as much as possible and find new friends?
Also - having re-read the situation a few times I have to say that I'd personally deal with the situation exactly the same way as Emo Ho has. If someone who I despised tried to chum in to my freindship group/into my space I'd do just that. And I have in the past. If you've been rejected from the 'gang', isn't the best thing to do just to stay away from them as much as possible and find new friends?
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::was one of those people::MixedMyth wrote:Actually, high school was pretty good for me. I hung out with a group of good, rational people.
-D. M. Jeftinija Pharm.D., Ph.D. -- Yes, I've got two doctorates and I'm arrogant about it, what have *you* done with *your* life?
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"People who don't care about anything will never understand the people who do." "yeah.. but we won't care."
"Legostar's on the first page of the guide. His opinion is worth more than both of yours."--Yeahduff
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Killbert-Robby
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Yeah. Been in that situation myself. Eventually, since we're all lucky enough to mature at different speeds, eventually your friends are gonna bug the LIVING SHIT out of you. If they like these dickweeds more than you, and they don't stick up for you, I think its safe to assume you should move on. I've ended up making new friends at an Irish Pub nearby, and a bunch of girls in 9th grade (stfu, at least they havn't reached the "Evil back stabbing skank" stage of most highschool girlsblackaby wrote:LOL Buster.
Also - having re-read the situation a few times I have to say that I'd personally deal with the situation exactly the same way as Emo Ho has. If someone who I despised tried to chum in to my freindship group/into my space I'd do just that. And I have in the past. If you've been rejected from the 'gang', isn't the best thing to do just to stay away from them as much as possible and find new friends?
). Alas, very few friends will actually be your friends forever. "Friends 4 eva" pact or not.
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Wow, Buster. That's intense... You wouldn't mind if I bought the movie rights, would you?
I was fortunate enough to have a group of tight friends in high school. They always backed me up, even when we were fighting. And if one of us was having too many bully troubles, we could 1: vent to the others or 2: petition one of us to threaten to beat her ass to a pulp (one of us was a delinquant... hee hee hee...).
Of course, now most of us are moving seperate ways, but at least we don't need to survive in the jungle of high school anymore.
I was fortunate enough to have a group of tight friends in high school. They always backed me up, even when we were fighting. And if one of us was having too many bully troubles, we could 1: vent to the others or 2: petition one of us to threaten to beat her ass to a pulp (one of us was a delinquant... hee hee hee...).
Of course, now most of us are moving seperate ways, but at least we don't need to survive in the jungle of high school anymore.
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I gotta argue with this one.bustertheclown wrote: Just remember, if it does come to physical violence, do bring a weapon.
Reason being, yeah, you don't want to bring a gun to a knife fight, true: but you don't want to be in a knife fight at all. You stab or shoot someone, you're in BIG trouble, doesn't matter if they provoked you or not. Really, truly, best to avoid it or take some self-defense classes, 'cause honestly, there's no way most people could even have a knife fight 'cause they don't know how.
Dunno if this was more satire or what but... kick her, punch her, chuck shit at her, but don't stab her. Always a bad idea.
Damn you high school kids are violent these days.
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By "weapon" I think more along the lines of a baseball bat. Really, I've taken a lot of self defense classes. I was even in karate for a couple years in middle school.
But if it comes to a physical fight, I'm still a wuss. I kick and scratch and, unless I can give them a nice solid kick in the kneecap, the self defense doesn't really amount to much. So, a stick or some other blunt object may be useful in giving you the upper hand.
But I think this is out of context.
But if it comes to a physical fight, I'm still a wuss. I kick and scratch and, unless I can give them a nice solid kick in the kneecap, the self defense doesn't really amount to much. So, a stick or some other blunt object may be useful in giving you the upper hand.
But I think this is out of context.
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My reason for not bringing a weapon is simple. If you use fists, the guy is fighting for his pride. One of you gets the shit beaten out of you, and its over. HOWEVER, if you bring a knife, the guy is fighting for his life. Thats when someone gets killed. Possibly the guy who brought the weapon.Tellurider wrote:I gotta argue with this one.bustertheclown wrote: Just remember, if it does come to physical violence, do bring a weapon.
Reason being, yeah, you don't want to bring a gun to a knife fight, true: but you don't want to be in a knife fight at all. You stab or shoot someone, you're in BIG trouble, doesn't matter if they provoked you or not. Really, truly, best to avoid it or take some self-defense classes, 'cause honestly, there's no way most people could even have a knife fight 'cause they don't know how.
Dunno if this was more satire or what but... kick her, punch her, chuck shit at her, but don't stab her. Always a bad idea.
Damn you high school kids are violent these days.
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lol, ok, but theres a difference between improvised weaponry, like grabbing a fist full of soil and throwing it in the guy's eyes, and bringing a knife with the intent to stab him. One is life threatening, one isn't. He's not going to fight for his life over gum. (Excuse me for not using she, due to the situation, but I'm just talking in general here)Black Sparrow wrote:You've obviously never seen women fight. We fight dirty. If I have an advantage, by gum I'm going to take it and use it to the best of my abilities.
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I'd never bring anything sharp or dangerous to a fight. See my post four posts up for details.Killbert-Robby wrote:lol, ok, but theres a difference between improvised weaponry, like grabbing a fist full of soil and throwing it in the guy's eyes, and bringing a knife with the intent to stab him. One is life threatening, one isn't. He's not going to fight for his life over gum. (Excuse me for not using she, due to the situation, but I'm just talking in general here)Black Sparrow wrote:You've obviously never seen women fight. We fight dirty. If I have an advantage, by gum I'm going to take it and use it to the best of my abilities.
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Yeah, I read it. I'm just saying for other people who read "weapon" X posts up and thing "ooh, knife!"Black Sparrow wrote:I'd never bring anything sharp or dangerous to a fight. See my post four posts up for details.Killbert-Robby wrote:lol, ok, but theres a difference between improvised weaponry, like grabbing a fist full of soil and throwing it in the guy's eyes, and bringing a knife with the intent to stab him. One is life threatening, one isn't. He's not going to fight for his life over gum. (Excuse me for not using she, due to the situation, but I'm just talking in general here)Black Sparrow wrote:You've obviously never seen women fight. We fight dirty. If I have an advantage, by gum I'm going to take it and use it to the best of my abilities.
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Uuhh . . . my advice is to tell her that you don't appreciate the jibes, and that she's acting very bitchy. But not to say it in an angry or hurt way, but matter of factly, or even as a friendly, side warning: You know, if you keep this up, people are going to think you're really bitchy. And no one wants that, huh?
I doubt it will change her much, but at least you'll be acting responsibly and clearly, not just passive agressively. And not just talking behind her back and backstabbing, something that people seem to hate. And when she continues, you'll have the moral high ground for discussing her bitchniness behind her back. And perhaps you can get some of your other friends to confirm for her, on totally independant occasions, that she's treating you unfairly and that she's acting like a total bitch.
Just to make sure, with no overt maliciousness, that her actions have not gone unnoticed and that they reflect poorly on her.
Will it work? I dunno. Maybe. I have the social skills of a dead lemur.
On the plus side, I've never been the butt of too much bullying and I've never been in a fight.
I doubt it will change her much, but at least you'll be acting responsibly and clearly, not just passive agressively. And not just talking behind her back and backstabbing, something that people seem to hate. And when she continues, you'll have the moral high ground for discussing her bitchniness behind her back. And perhaps you can get some of your other friends to confirm for her, on totally independant occasions, that she's treating you unfairly and that she's acting like a total bitch.
Just to make sure, with no overt maliciousness, that her actions have not gone unnoticed and that they reflect poorly on her.
Will it work? I dunno. Maybe. I have the social skills of a dead lemur.
On the plus side, I've never been the butt of too much bullying and I've never been in a fight.
God I hated that.MixedMyth wrote: Hell, teachers would stick problem kids next to me hoping I would have a 'calming effect' on them...nevermind what that meant for ME.
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Mm... teacher's pettishness. I got teased for that too. Just because I spoke with the teachers before and after class, and treated them like human beings.
I took mostly advanced classes in high school. Fortunately, that meant that very few of us were problem kids (not in that way, anyway. A couple were prone to arrogance.)
In my non-advanced classes.... well, many teachers let us choose our own seats until it became a problem. I belonged in front. Druggies and rebels belonged in back. We stayed out of eachothers' ways.
I took mostly advanced classes in high school. Fortunately, that meant that very few of us were problem kids (not in that way, anyway. A couple were prone to arrogance.)
In my non-advanced classes.... well, many teachers let us choose our own seats until it became a problem. I belonged in front. Druggies and rebels belonged in back. We stayed out of eachothers' ways.
This is going in my notebook titled "Things I Didn't Know about Surface Dwellers."