The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ciararavenblaze on Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:37 am

man-made concept or not, sin DOES involve going against what God wants, yes. I can definitely agree with that.

but now the question is, what does God really want?
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ruby Falls on Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:14 pm

God wants all things that are good, but what is "good"? The word "good" is just too broad, but there is no better word. What is good?
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ciararavenblaze on Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:26 pm

see, I'm with you there, Ruby--the issue is objectivity versus subjectivity here. what's good to me might not be good to you. :eyebrow:
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ruby Falls on Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:41 am

Do you think that Seers are real?
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ciararavenblaze on Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:48 am

well...

lemme put it to you this way: you've got your carnival/entertainment/scam-artist psychics (seers, oracles, etc.), and then you've got the real ones.

I've found out from experience that the real ones usually don't exploit their powers for profit. they may use them on a regular basis, and they may share what they know, but they usually A, don't like to exploit their powers, and/or B, feel the burden of responsibility with their powers too much to want to trivialize it, or even C, wish they didn't even have that power in the first place.

there's one story that I can recall my mother telling me: some years ago, while she was a full-time middle school teacher AND full-time mother AND full-time grad student getting her Master's and Specialist's degrees, she came into my dad's office, wanting to go eat lunch (or something like that--a small little date, basically). she remembers sitting there, stressed out, rushed and in an overall quiet panic, and wondering if she was just stressed or having a heart attack.

a week later, this lady and her daughter come in, wanting to do some business regarding the college that my dad taught at, at the time. well, the lady sees a picture of my mother on my dad's desk, casually strikes up a conversation with him about her, and then mentions that she's a psychic. my dad isn't the type to be gullible to that kind of thing, so he humored her, all the while thinking "yeah right."

well, the lady says, "tell your wife that it's not a heart attack, just stress."
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ruby Falls on Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:01 pm

Here's a good question to ask non-Catholics:

Do you believe that the bread and wine at communion become the body and blood of Jesus?
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ciararavenblaze on Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:14 am

as in, literally? no. but I do believe it's a very good symbolic representation of his body and blood.

and I like those wafers and grape juice (well, grape juice if you're Baptist or Methodist, etc.) too. XD

what is the most important thing that you've pulled from your spiritual beliefs overall that, when put to the challenge to the rest of them, sticks out and holds up the best?
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ruby Falls on Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:15 pm

I'd go with the pride I have in belonging to my religion. (Yes, I know that's one of the Seven Deadly Sins.) If I didn't have pride and confidence in what I believe, I wouldn't have the strength to stand up for myself.
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ciararavenblaze on Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:30 pm

I doubt that pride in your spiritual convictions is what they were talking about when they were talking about the seven deadly sins, Ruby, so I think you're safe. :D

do you think that the Bible needs to be updated? not necessarily re-translated, but added to and so on, for the modern world?
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ruby Falls on Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:18 pm

Perhaps new findings could be added to the end of the Bible.

I really wish that I could read Greek. That way I could see some more accurate translations of the Bible. I have a friend that studies classical languages and has a much better understanding of the Bible than I have. This goes for any holy book in any language.
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Jonmisc on Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:00 pm

You can try http://www.textkit.com/ for learning Greek if you want to do it on your own.
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ciararavenblaze on Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:08 pm

kewl, Jonnie. :D

do you believe in the use of things like certain plants (pot, ayahuasca, mushrooms, peyote, etc.) can help enhance one's spiritual/religious experiences?

I sure do but what do you guys think?
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Garneta on Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:45 pm

Yeah, I do. Having never tried all of them (In fact, I've never heard of ayahuasca), I can't say from experience...but yeah, I can certainly see how it's feasible.
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ciararavenblaze on Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:42 am

the things that I listed are things that I want to try for that very reason.

also, shamanism in general really interests me. what do you guys think of it?
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ruby Falls on Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:03 pm

I don't know very much about shamanism.

Even if some drugs can make you more connected to spirits I don't want to try them. They kill off your brain cells and can be habit-forming.
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ciararavenblaze on Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:39 am

this is true in most cases. some drugs, though, I've read that they can be addicting, but that the addiction is psychological more than physical. and depending on the kind of person you are, I think that either one can be far worse than the other.

so I most certainly think that if one were to use any of those drugs that I mentioned (not Ecstasy. :P) for spiritual purposes, they would make a point to use it responsibly. you don't disrespect God, after all. or shouldn't, anyway.
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Garneta on Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:55 pm

I'd never try anything man-made (excepting alchohol) for that very reason, Ruby. I have an addictive personality anyway, so I don't need to get caught up in anything like that (I've never tried a cigarette, even). But I'm not opposed to trying natural substances. Heck, even some animals do it (I've read that sometimes jaguars get high by eating certain plants...don't remember where, so I don't know if it's true or not though...).
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ciararavenblaze on Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:14 pm

I think I've seen a video of jaguars doing what you're talking about, Kat. interesting stuff.

what is absolutely necessary in your beliefs?
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ruby Falls on Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:52 pm

Well, aside from needing the obvious (faith) I need others to help me with my spirituality. Talking to others and sharing my faith is essential.
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Re: The Philosophy Thread (Take Two)

Postby Ciararavenblaze on Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:36 am

I find that it is essential to feel like a part of something. ever notice that a person who quits going to church starts feeling disconnected from that particular experience? or seeks other groups out?

I think that can play a big part in spirituality as well as religion.
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