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Heh...now all I gotta do is bully the cause of the whole POCKET universe onto the board, and I suspect that won't be too difficult.<P>And call me strange, but you using the word "cute" in a sentence strikes me as...odd. And I would never intentionally cause cavities, knowing now just HOW much damage they can do (not firsthand experience, thankfully!)<P>And regarding the twitchiness, I really think you should cut down on the coffee...despite the fact that you've made it clear that you wouldn't react that differently from Prisca.
How can the characters be so <b>cute</b>? They're only a few lines, but they're <b>cute</b>. It's not anime-type cuteness; it's <b>cute</b> cuteness, the kind Avalon has.<P>Actually, it's not just the characters. The name is kinda <b>cute</b> too... makes me think of very small <b>cute</b> comics that you can carry around with you. Or kangaroos. Or something. Whatever it is, it's <b>cute</b>.<P><b>Cute</b>! <b>Cute</b>! <b>Cute</b>! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
Yeah, flying seals tend to be cute. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>And what does POCKET stand for? Well, that's covered in strip 4 or therabouts, but truth be told, I DID make most of those words up. (Temporashifting?) I didn't even think about the cute aspect before, but now that you mention it...that could be good for my site. I'm trying for a general audiences release here (not in the sense of Disney's recent kiddie-movie trend, but more like Prince of Egypt and Chicken Run).<P>And, regarding the few-lines style...I blame/credit that to Photoshop. I still haven't gotten the hang of drawing with the mouse without taking a lot of time. I draw a lot better than this. Seriously! (Note to self: Use scanner in student center!) And since I have to work on this daily, I often sacrifice art quality for script -- assuming, of course, that the script is good. I'm not a fair judge!<P>And for more cuteness, I suggest Acid Reflux ( <A HREF="http://www.acidrefluxcomic.com" TARGET=_blank>www.acidrefluxcomic.com</A> ) if you haven't seen it before. It's the story of God and her pet universe, Irving. (And I know the ultra-conservatives would take offense, but the key is not to take it [the comic] seriously. It's too cute!)
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Ah. Rather thought POCKET meant- well- a space-time "pocket". Hard to get into but also hard to get out of. Doesn't necessarily make much sense as an analogy now I think on it, but it made sense when I thought that was what I thought it meant. Hrm.
<I>Very</I> much enjoying the comic so far, by the way. Confused though! It seemed as though Calli met Prisca for the first time in the first episode (10/2), but that either isn't so or Calli has - ways - of finding out things. However, mysteries are interesting, and I look forward to finding out the answer in the comic. Just wondering if there was something obvious I was missing <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">
-Eric Schissel (apologies for going OT by the way- perhaps I should edit this post and start another thread, now I think on it...)
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<I>Very</I> much enjoying the comic so far, by the way. Confused though! It seemed as though Calli met Prisca for the first time in the first episode (10/2), but that either isn't so or Calli has - ways - of finding out things. However, mysteries are interesting, and I look forward to finding out the answer in the comic. Just wondering if there was something obvious I was missing <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">
-Eric Schissel (apologies for going OT by the way- perhaps I should edit this post and start another thread, now I think on it...)
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by schissel:
<B>Ah. Rather thought POCKET meant- well- a space-time "pocket". Hard to get into but also hard to get out of. Doesn't necessarily make much sense as an analogy now I think on it, but it made sense when I thought that was what I thought it meant. Hrm.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>It IS a space-time pocket of sorts, I was just stating that I did make a lot of those words up -- but they all have very real roots, e.g. chronos, kairos, and tempus.
The original time-travel influence came from a friend of mine, who was also a character in the alternate story that also feeds into this one. (Don't worry, no previous knowledge necessary. What is needed will be supplied at the right time.) He was the inventor/discover/whatever of time travel, and the other half of the "self-appointed guardian of time" operation -- he keeps the smart-mouthed computer in line.
The main difference between POCKET and its sister story and other stories that use time travel is that usually time travel is used to fix things up, and in POCKET it tends to solve one problem by creating another...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B><I>Very</I> much enjoying the comic so far, by the way. Confused though! It seemed as though Calli met Prisca for the first time in the first episode (10/2), but that either isn't so or Calli has - ways - of finding out things. However, mysteries are interesting, and I look forward to finding out the answer in the comic. Just wondering if there was something obvious I was missing <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">
-Eric Schissel (apologies for going OT by the way- perhaps I should edit this post and start another thread, now I think on it...)
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Actually, they DID meet for the first time in the first strip. However, there are two ways this can be looked at:
a) Calli made an educated guess that since Prisca was from Earth, had no previous knowledge of Calli or time-space phenomenae, and completely flipped out when she saw a flying seal, that she had never been in a POCKET before. I'd say more, but it might spoil the story.
b) In the sister story to POCKET, Calli also had what one of my friends refers to as "limited ESP". Partly from tinkering with time-space for several years, partly innate. As above, I'd say more but it might be a big spoiler for later events.<P>Regarding the OT-ness: that's OK, I know where this thought tangent came from. If I can trace it back, it's OK. I'll step in if things get *too* crazy, though.
<B>Ah. Rather thought POCKET meant- well- a space-time "pocket". Hard to get into but also hard to get out of. Doesn't necessarily make much sense as an analogy now I think on it, but it made sense when I thought that was what I thought it meant. Hrm.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>It IS a space-time pocket of sorts, I was just stating that I did make a lot of those words up -- but they all have very real roots, e.g. chronos, kairos, and tempus.
The original time-travel influence came from a friend of mine, who was also a character in the alternate story that also feeds into this one. (Don't worry, no previous knowledge necessary. What is needed will be supplied at the right time.) He was the inventor/discover/whatever of time travel, and the other half of the "self-appointed guardian of time" operation -- he keeps the smart-mouthed computer in line.
The main difference between POCKET and its sister story and other stories that use time travel is that usually time travel is used to fix things up, and in POCKET it tends to solve one problem by creating another...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B><I>Very</I> much enjoying the comic so far, by the way. Confused though! It seemed as though Calli met Prisca for the first time in the first episode (10/2), but that either isn't so or Calli has - ways - of finding out things. However, mysteries are interesting, and I look forward to finding out the answer in the comic. Just wondering if there was something obvious I was missing <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">
-Eric Schissel (apologies for going OT by the way- perhaps I should edit this post and start another thread, now I think on it...)
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Actually, they DID meet for the first time in the first strip. However, there are two ways this can be looked at:
a) Calli made an educated guess that since Prisca was from Earth, had no previous knowledge of Calli or time-space phenomenae, and completely flipped out when she saw a flying seal, that she had never been in a POCKET before. I'd say more, but it might spoil the story.
b) In the sister story to POCKET, Calli also had what one of my friends refers to as "limited ESP". Partly from tinkering with time-space for several years, partly innate. As above, I'd say more but it might be a big spoiler for later events.<P>Regarding the OT-ness: that's OK, I know where this thought tangent came from. If I can trace it back, it's OK. I'll step in if things get *too* crazy, though.
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I'm going to have to find out one of these days how <I>chronos</I> and <I>kairos</I> differ; I only even <B>know</B> the latter word because of my musical interests (it's the name of a set of pieces of music, meant to be played <I>as</I> a set, written in the late 1950s-early 1960s by a major Danish composer (Vagn Holmboe, 1909-96)) while chronos is rather better-known, but all I know is the time-connections of each word...<P>Other interesting points there, then... and thanks for the clarifications!<P>(Though I do detect some - possible - spoilers in your response- a <I>smart-mouthed computer</I>? Or have we already seen that, and I just missed it, or rather, what it was? There have been a number of details whose significance I've failed to register. Well, that's what rereading is for... )<P>-Eric Schissel
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by schissel:
<B>I'm going to have to find out one of these days how <I>chronos</I> and <I>kairos</I> differ; I only even </B>know<B> the latter word because of my musical interests (it's the name of a set of pieces of music, meant to be played <I>as</I> a set, written in the late 1950s-early 1960s by a major Danish composer (Vagn Holmboe, 1909-96)) while chronos is rather better-known, but all I know is the time-connections of each word...</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Well, in Greek (according to my horrendously written and just plain MEAN textbook), kairos means "right time". I originally pulled the word from a theological origin...and drat, I can hardly remember what it meant in that case. That was two years ago, or close to it. If I remember at all correctly, it has something to do with an event that continuously happens. Hard to explain...that is, without going into theology, which isn't my field of expertise. (Although in my defense, I do know more about Catholicism than most people my age.) But I think I know who I can ask...and with any luck he will join the board, if I can bully him into it. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"><P><B> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>(Though I do detect some - possible - spoilers in your response- a <I>smart-mouthed computer</I>? Or have we already seen that, and I just missed it, or rather, what it was?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The "smart-mouthed computer" will <B>not</B> be appearing in the storyline, nor is it likely it will be mentioned. Therefore it is not a spoiler, just a helpful bit of background info. We will be seeing the computer's creator/maintaner, but not until the very end. Okay, tiny spoiler for not much later (regarding Mr. Temporal Physicist, as I refer to him as).<P>(oops...to clarify, the end of the story is not coming soon, just mention of the Temporal Physicist. Enough to make the computer/maintainer blurb a miniscule spoiler for near-future events.)<p>[This message has been edited by Calliope (edited 10-18-2000).]
<B>I'm going to have to find out one of these days how <I>chronos</I> and <I>kairos</I> differ; I only even </B>know<B> the latter word because of my musical interests (it's the name of a set of pieces of music, meant to be played <I>as</I> a set, written in the late 1950s-early 1960s by a major Danish composer (Vagn Holmboe, 1909-96)) while chronos is rather better-known, but all I know is the time-connections of each word...</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Well, in Greek (according to my horrendously written and just plain MEAN textbook), kairos means "right time". I originally pulled the word from a theological origin...and drat, I can hardly remember what it meant in that case. That was two years ago, or close to it. If I remember at all correctly, it has something to do with an event that continuously happens. Hard to explain...that is, without going into theology, which isn't my field of expertise. (Although in my defense, I do know more about Catholicism than most people my age.) But I think I know who I can ask...and with any luck he will join the board, if I can bully him into it. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"><P><B> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>(Though I do detect some - possible - spoilers in your response- a <I>smart-mouthed computer</I>? Or have we already seen that, and I just missed it, or rather, what it was?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The "smart-mouthed computer" will <B>not</B> be appearing in the storyline, nor is it likely it will be mentioned. Therefore it is not a spoiler, just a helpful bit of background info. We will be seeing the computer's creator/maintaner, but not until the very end. Okay, tiny spoiler for not much later (regarding Mr. Temporal Physicist, as I refer to him as).<P>(oops...to clarify, the end of the story is not coming soon, just mention of the Temporal Physicist. Enough to make the computer/maintainer blurb a miniscule spoiler for near-future events.)<p>[This message has been edited by Calliope (edited 10-18-2000).]
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As to the clarification, actually was wondering about that very point, thanks.<P>I look forward to finding out how and why Calli<P>(1) knew there would be no coffee on this world (or, if not knew, guessed to good probability)<P>(2) was more frightened of Prisca than of the many dangers she's faced in her lifetime to date...<P>Again- not asking for spoilers. Just that when I see something quizzical, I start forming guesses if I think I know enough to guess, and whether or not I do know enough to guess, I certainly start looking forward to being able to piece together more of the puzzle. A very small part of the enjoyment of serial plot (serial novels, netfiction (the Superguy list for example), webcomics, ...- an attempt to fit some of these, those that aren't pure joke-a-day, into a broader category) for me as I may have explained elsewhere, but certainly <I>a</I> part. Sorry to ramble!<P>-Eric Schissel
As a more general remark: I notice a lot of people are calling POCKET "cute". Well, I have nothing against that, but I should point out that some very un-cute things are going to happen in the course of the story. After all, war and hate figure into the storyline, and wherever you find those, you find pain and suffering...
(On the other hand, I will handle such scenes with as much care and dignity as I can. You don't have to use graphic violence or foul language (in most cases -- <i>Schindler's List<i> is an exception I can think of off the bat) to convey the horrors of hate.
There's going to be some pretty weighty material later on in POCKET -- this is what happens when an English major decides to create a webcomic, I suppose. And although it doesn't look like it now, it's aimed at a cerebral audience.)
(On the other hand, I will handle such scenes with as much care and dignity as I can. You don't have to use graphic violence or foul language (in most cases -- <i>Schindler's List<i> is an exception I can think of off the bat) to convey the horrors of hate.
There's going to be some pretty weighty material later on in POCKET -- this is what happens when an English major decides to create a webcomic, I suppose. And although it doesn't look like it now, it's aimed at a cerebral audience.)
It's the artwork that's cute - we'd talk about the story, but it takes more than a few weeks to have much to talk about. Presumably in a few months the pages-long wholly speculative character analyses will start. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>Un-cute heavy material with suffering is good, and oddly rare. (It can't be <em>that</em> incompatible with the medium, so why does nobody do it? Is it just the cultural convention of serial art = not serious?) I don't think a cerebral audience will be too hard to find; <a href="http://www.brunostrip.com/bruno.html" target="_blank">Bruno</a> seems to have one.
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She mentioned a sister story, not strip, which sounds quite different to me. Though... I for one would not at all mind if, after (to avoid spoilers) the run of POCKET (which, it sounds like, has been intended from the start to be delimited, though not very very brief,) the author were willing to post that sister story somewhere. Her call, though, as with anyone who creates- her call, not the fans'. My opinion only.<P>-Eric Schissel <p>[This message has been edited by schissel (edited 10-25-2000).]
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Agh...
Okay...looks like I gotta set the record straight:
It's not a sister comic, it's a sister story. And while POCKET is based off of it (to a limited degree), it is a self-contained story. Any information that is needed from that story will be provided within the comic (flashbacks and the like).
And I don't think I'd post the story...in addition to requiring another 2 years or so to get it "polished", I'd have to go and change various names to protect the innocent. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">
Agh...
Okay...looks like I gotta set the record straight:
It's not a sister comic, it's a sister story. And while POCKET is based off of it (to a limited degree), it is a self-contained story. Any information that is needed from that story will be provided within the comic (flashbacks and the like).
And I don't think I'd post the story...in addition to requiring another 2 years or so to get it "polished", I'd have to go and change various names to protect the innocent. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Calliope:
[BIt's not a sister comic, it's a sister story. And while POCKET is based off of it (to a limited degree), it is a self-contained story. Any information that is needed from that story will be provided within the comic (flashbacks and the like).
And I don't think I'd post the story...in addition to requiring another 2 years or so to get it "polished", I'd have to go and change various names to protect the innocent. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Protecting little old me? I'm touched.
<Grin> I'm looking forward to seeing what you have planned.<P>Averageman, the keeper, and sometimes wearer, of Xellos's secret smile.
[BIt's not a sister comic, it's a sister story. And while POCKET is based off of it (to a limited degree), it is a self-contained story. Any information that is needed from that story will be provided within the comic (flashbacks and the like).
And I don't think I'd post the story...in addition to requiring another 2 years or so to get it "polished", I'd have to go and change various names to protect the innocent. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Protecting little old me? I'm touched.
<Grin> I'm looking forward to seeing what you have planned.<P>Averageman, the keeper, and sometimes wearer, of Xellos's secret smile.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Calliope:
<B>And call me strange, but you using the word "cute" in a sentence strikes me as...odd. And I would never intentionally cause cavities, knowing now just HOW much damage they can do (not firsthand experience, thankfully!)<P>And regarding the twitchiness, I really think you should cut down on the coffee...despite the fact that you've made it clear that you wouldn't react that differently from Prisca.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>With reguards to the remark on my using the word "cute"...Your not the only one who finds it distinctly odd.(Evil Grin)<P>Now as to the similarity of my reaction to coffee deprivation and that of Prisca...Not a suprise (Grin) After I did give you the closing line "Give me coffee or I will give you DEATH" <P>Averageman, the twitching wearer of Xellos's scary smile.
<B>And call me strange, but you using the word "cute" in a sentence strikes me as...odd. And I would never intentionally cause cavities, knowing now just HOW much damage they can do (not firsthand experience, thankfully!)<P>And regarding the twitchiness, I really think you should cut down on the coffee...despite the fact that you've made it clear that you wouldn't react that differently from Prisca.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>With reguards to the remark on my using the word "cute"...Your not the only one who finds it distinctly odd.(Evil Grin)<P>Now as to the similarity of my reaction to coffee deprivation and that of Prisca...Not a suprise (Grin) After I did give you the closing line "Give me coffee or I will give you DEATH" <P>Averageman, the twitching wearer of Xellos's scary smile.