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Nesmin wrote:By "equivalent" you mean some quasi-military organisation connected somehow with religion, nowadays or in the past?

Could be. But it doesn't have to be real.

After all, Section XIII isn't real. The Vatican exists, but it doesn't actually have a secret group of monster-slaying assassins. It's the same with the British Library: it's an existing organization, but it doesn't really employ book-hunting paper users. Hellsing isn't even related to a real organization, just a character from a novel.

So if you think of any novels or organizations or other things that I could use as a source of inspiration for a fake organization, that would be great.

On the other hand, I may have to use the Mohair Berets . . . because the image of a sweet old woman in a beret going Alexander Anderson on a surprised vampire is hilarious

After all, Section XIII isn't real. The Vatican exists, but it doesn't actually have a secret group of monster-slaying assassins. It's the same with the British Library: it's an existing organization, but it doesn't really employ book-hunting paper users. Hellsing isn't even related to a real organization, just a character from a novel.

I know, I know... I thought more about the Holy League.

So if you think of any novels or organizations or other things that I could use as a source of inspiration for a fake organization, that would be great.

If I come across something interesting in the fiction world I'll let you know.

On the other hand, I may have to use the Mohair Berets . . . because the image of a sweet old woman in a beret going Alexander Anderson on a surprised vampire is hilarious

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The contrast between the illusion of "sweet old women" and they're real nature of fighting fanatic is base for many mohair-jokes. But I wouldn't like to be in that vampire's shoes.

Oh, and one more thing: we never write mohair berets with capital letters. Not because of disrespect, but it really isn't an organisation, it's just a group of people, like bicycle lovers or bookworms, or sth.

Nesmin wrote:The contrast between the illusion of "sweet old women" and their real nature of fighting fanatic is base for many mohair-jokes. But I wouldn't like to be in that vampire's shoes.

Oh, and one more thing: we never write mohair berets with capital letters. Not because of disrespect, but it really isn't an organisation, it's just a group of people, like bicycle lovers or bookworms, or sth.

Awesome. This sounds like comedy gold already.

I'll keep it in mind, thanks!

CURSE YOU ASIMOV! CURSE YOU AND YOUR INFERNAL LAWS!

Really, it's hard to train yourself against vampire attacks when the practice vampire can't attack you. Integra might be able to switch in Seras for this, but then she runs the risk of killing one of her agents with this experiment.

Alucard is tempting Integra to use Release level 0...Clever. But a bit obvious.

Xuanwu wrote:Alucard is tempting Integra to use Release level 0...Clever. But a bit obvious.

Clearly, I've got to kick this storyline up a notch. You people keep anticipating my jokes.

(Of course, I'm in the middle of finals right now, which is sapping my concentration. 21 pages left to write!)

WHOOT FOR ISAAC ASIMOV REFERENCES!!!!!

...Wait...what about the third law? Immortal or not, some of Alucard's behavior *cough Anderson, Alhambra, etc. cough* is decidedly NOT self preserving...Even the ones Integra didn't order.

SailorPtah wrote:Clearly, I've got to kick this storyline up a notch. You people keep anticipating my jokes.

You could always go the Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei route: end it with someone naked in a freezer with penguins.

I've forgotten just how adorable a frustrated Alucard is. In fact, it's been so long since we've been at the Hellsing mansion, I've forgotten just how much I adore them.

And am I the only one who thinks that panel two of today's strip has such thick sexual tension/frustration that not even a shot from Seras' Harconnen Cannon could dent it?

NOTE: Erin, I thought you should know that the storyline selection bar is set on "Getting Sick of Fangirls" for these strips instead of "May Flowers". Just a heads-up.

INtegra definitely forgot about the restriction system and other wards they placed on Alucard would throw a wrench into the works of her little experiment. I suppose she could have Seras take a swing at her but then Seras would likely die before doing that even if ordered which is likely why there was never any hurry to have her strapped down and subjected to what they did to assure Alucard's good behavior.

Hmmmmmm......robotics you say. I'm thinking Alu-bot or Robo-card

AH! I just finished reading I, Robot today!

FUKYAH That reference made me happy.

(reads latest strip)

Okay, for all those who are not familiar with "I, Robot", let me educate you about it

(wish I saw the film)

"I Robot" is a series of stories written by Issac Asimov, and one of the tenets written into the stories is "The Three Law of Robotic" (which Alucard alluded to). The three laws are:

1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

Personally, I don't know how Sir Integra is going to resolve this problem... but that's a problem for Erin to solve (hint-hint).

BigKwell wrote:(wish I saw the film)

By all accounts, the film sucked, having nothing to do with the book except for the title.

I, Robot was my introduction to Asimov, but the Laws of Robotics are a fundamental part of his extended universe. I've been meaning to read more of it for a long time now. (I still haven't read any of the Foundation series. Yeah, yeah, I know, I should turn in my geek certification now.)

I admit I haven't read the Foundation series myself. The only books of his I've read are, um, crud, I can't remember the name of the series of the top of my head. First book in it was Caves of Steel, with that human looking robot. And in the third book that other robot discovered the Zeroth Law.

Gah, it's been way too long.

Yeah, don't bother with the movie. The only relation to the book is the character of Susan Calvin.

I wonder if Alucard's familiars (i.e. the manifested forms of the souls he's consumed) operate under the same rules? For example, if he spat out a ghoul from one of his battles as Vlad, would that ghoul be unable to hurt Integra?

Xuanwu wrote:Yeah, don't bother with the movie. The only relation to the book is the character of Susan Calvin.

And even she was hardly the same. They made her young and attractive, totally dumped the premise of it being the narrative of her life as an old woman, and didn't really make her the cool bad@$$ robot psychologist that she was in the book, making her more of the stereotypical touchy-feely female sidekick scientist who believes that her beloved creations are infallible.

The Movie's Good...Just NEVER try to relate it in any way to the book.

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At all.

That movie made me *nerd raaage*. Not only did it reverse the whole premise of Asimov's works - that robots if programmed correctly wouldn't revolt violently like so, it also demolished characterisation, inbuilt premises (the whole 'second processing core without the three laws' bit - one of the points is that there are no positronic brains without the three laws.. GRAHHH) and built needless fearmongering of artificial intelligences all along.

For crying out loud, even in the alternate future history of Asimov's universe had the giant AI 'Machines' running things smoothly and it worked well.

Also: Good for Integra! Safety precautions are there for a reason!

Reaver225 wrote:(the whole 'second processing core without the three laws' bit - one of the points is that there are no positronic brains without the three laws.. GRAHHH)

Remember that Asimov did later change his stance on that, by featuring at least one robot character without the three laws.

No, the movie had 3 similarities.

The title.
Dr. Calvin.
That bit where Sonny hides is kind of like Little Lost Robot.