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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby flyboy254 on Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:47 am

Finished!

Goons: World War 2 was over, and the Allies were the winners!
Now the Allied vampire hunters are led by a spinster!
They thought the Nazi’s gone! They sang happy songs!
But they did miss, Op PAPERCLIP, and boy they sure we wrong!

Rip: And now it’s! Springtime for all of Millenium!
Vampires are happy, and gay!
They’re marching to a faster pace!
No need for any master race!
Springtime for all of Millenium!
Now is the time for a war!
Springtime for all of Millenium!
Watch out Europe, we’re coming for more!

Springtime for all of Millenium!
Winter for hunters worldwide!
Springtime for all of Millenium!
C’mon traitors, join with your real side!

*Goons start tapping*

Goon 1: I vas turned in Düsseldorf, and yet I am still called Ralf.
Goon 2: Don’t be stupid be a smarty, c’mon join the Nazi party!

*More Goons dancing*

Rip: Ze Major is coming!
Ze Major is coming!
Ze Major is coming!

Goon 1: Heil Major!
Goon 2: Heil Major!
All: Heil Major!
Rip: Springtime for all of Millenium!
All: Heil Major!

Major: Heil myself!
Heil to me!
I’m the Kraut who’s out to kill humanity!
Heil myself, raise your hand!
There’s no better mass murderer in the land!
Everything I do will make you squee!
If you’re looking for a war, here’s World War 3!
Heil myself, raise your guns!
Now let’s get those vampires out to have some fun!

Goons: Now let’s get those vampires out there!
Major: Heil myself!
Goons: Now let’s get those vampires out there!
Major: Heil myself!
Goons: Now let’s get those vampires out there!
Major: For some fun!
Goons: Every vampire give your salute here!
Major: A-hey-di-hi-di-ho-di-Heil Myself!

*Curtain drops, Major slides forward*

Major: I was just a maddened soldier
No one caused more horror!
Then the Russians took Berlin
It caused a little furor!

Hitler he was dead
Self-inflected to the head!
But I got out, and gave a shout
With a thousand mad undead!

For it ain’t no mystery!
In War’s great simplicity!
The thing about a war is!
Everything is showbiz!

Heil myself, watch our show!
I’m the cyborg Ethel Merman, Don’tcha know!
We care not for borders!
The world wide war is here!

Give a fangy smile!
Everyone seig heil, to me!
Wonderful me!
And now it’s-

Goons: Springtime for all of Millenium!
Major: Goosestep!
Goons: Goosestep, a new step once more!
V-1’s fall from the skies again! *Rip steps out in the top hat*
Krieg is now on the rise again! *Swastika forms*
Springtime for all of Millenium!
Zeppelins are sailing once more!
Springtime for all of Millenium!

Major: Means that-
Goons: Now we’ll be going!
Major: We’ve got to be going!
Goons: You know we’ll going!
Major: We’re finally going!

All: We’re going right back into W-A-A-A-A-AR!
WAR! *Finale*

Mel Brooks (Clapping next to Alucard): I love it when they make fun of these guys!
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For those who still insist on treating vampirism as a romantic existence, consider the suicide note left behind by Jacob Drexel, member of a prominent Philadelphia family who was transformed in 1937. After Drexel leaped off the City Hall tower one snowy night, a suicide note was found that closed with the following lines: "I have been living in constant torment over the unspeakable acts I have committed, and yet I am powerless to stop committing them. May God forgive me."

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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby Xuanwu on Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:04 pm

Oo, so the 1999 invasion creates alternate modern history. Love those! Makes me want to play with it a little. Let's see:

- Just like Clinton missed the memos on the first WTC attack and Cole, 9/11 happens under Gore. The Afghanistan War begins. America gets into empire building there, making it a drain on national resources.
- Desperate to "get tough," the Patriot Act passes, but without the establishment of Homeland Security. The War in Iraq doesn't happen.
- Without Cheney to block it from being brought up, the GOP congress and senate pass the Federal Marriage Amendment. This is fueled in part by a hatred of "abnormal" brought on by the 1999 attack, with gays taking the brunt of anti-normative sentiment. Gore oppose it, but could do little but campaign again it. This leads to an epic state-by-state showdown, ending with California becoming the 38th state to endorse the amendment (ala Prop 8), thus banning same-sex marriage in the US.
- There'd be no Medicare Part D or No Child Left Behind. Education quality thus improves as states continue to play around on their own.
- The EPA becomes larger and more aggressive, plus Cap and Trade, exacerbating the economic downturn of 9/11. The carbon trade markets begin favoring politically connected energy companies, including Gore's supporter BP. BP gains a larger foothold in the Gulf as its rewarded with preferential drilling contracts. When multiple of their rigs break down in the Gulf, the oil spill tragedy is increased tenfold.
- Gore ends up a one term President like older Bush due to economic issues, possibly even opting not to run again under pressure from Hillary. His VP, Lieberman, also decides against running.
- The election of 2004 becomes a showdown of Hillary vs. McCain, with Hillary exploiting a hero myth she's carefully woven into the public consciousness about her dead husband (she'd take a "At least that horny SOB was good for something!" attitude, of course) and McCain trying to be pro-business while moderate on social issues. McCain would narrowly edge her out, as people have grown weary of the now-extended Clinton years. She gets a job with CNN doing her own show.
- Katrina happens under McCain's watch. It's a mess just like before, even with different folks in charge. "McCain doesn't like black people!" is exclaimed by Kanye West.
- The housing bubble pops under McCain, with plenty of bipartisan blame to go around. Stimulus packages still happen as the Fed causes inflation of gas prices with low interest rates.
- Since McCain runs for re-election in 2008, Ron Paul never vies for the office. Thus the Tea Party, which was founded on frustration with the Bush administration's bad spending policies, never manifests. This means Tea Party candidate Allen West is never elected, reducing the number of African-American political leaders. Bachmann likewise does not get involved in the national scene, as do a number of other prominent women. (Young girls would still have Sailor Moon as a positive role model, at least.)
- Troops out of Afghanistan? Not in a hundred years!
- In 2012, with McCain done, it's his VP (probably not Sarah Palin) vs. an up-and-coming senator from Illinois. Obama takes it in a landslide.
- End of the world! (Not Obama's fault.)

Sound about right? :)
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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby Kazokuhouou on Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:15 pm

Two more:

Is this a universe where Pluto never gets downgraded, or is this a universe where it does, and Usagi promises to restore its planetary status when she becomes Queen?

Will....wait. (duct tapes Xuanwu's mouth) Will Chibiusa make a cameo in the final arc? Seeing as she's the only senshi out of the main ten that hasn't.
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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby flyboy254 on Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:15 pm

Xuanwu wrote: Just like Clinton missed the memos on the first WTC attack and Cole, 9/11 happens under Gore. The Afghanistan War begins. America gets into empire building there, making it a drain on national resources.
- Katrina happens under McCain's watch. It's a mess just like before, even with different folks in charge. "McCain doesn't like black people!" is exclaimed by Kanye West.
- Since McCain runs for re-election in 2008, Ron Paul never vies for the office. Thus the Tea Party, which was founded on frustration with the Bush administration's bad spending policies, never manifests. This means Tea Party candidate Allen West is never elected, reducing the number of African-American political leaders. Bachmann likewise does not get involved in the national scene, as do a number of other prominent women. (Young girls would still have Sailor Moon as a positive role model, at least.)
Sound about right? :)


Not really.

1: An attack of this kind of scale would force a major review of all threats, worldwide and US specific. Any memo about any group or individual planning an attack would be followed up on slightly, and once they see Osama in their records as a fundamentalist with a bent against the US, they'd do their best to ferret him out.
2: This kind of disaster would also force the US to review it's disaster response plans, meaning that snags and snares in organizations like FEMA could be straightened out. Would things be faster and more efficient? Maybe.
3: Maybe the Tea Party didn't form. But the thing is that fringe government groups form in the US all the time, and the one who managed to shout the loudest would still get the national attention. In this case, though, it'd be from either left wingers who thought the US to be too harsh, or right wingers who think we aren't doing enough to prevent another disaster.

An aside, would I be correct in seeing an event like this in utterly destroying the backing many white-supremacist and neo-nazi groups worldwide receive?
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For those who still insist on treating vampirism as a romantic existence, consider the suicide note left behind by Jacob Drexel, member of a prominent Philadelphia family who was transformed in 1937. After Drexel leaped off the City Hall tower one snowy night, a suicide note was found that closed with the following lines: "I have been living in constant torment over the unspeakable acts I have committed, and yet I am powerless to stop committing them. May God forgive me."

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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby SailorPtah on Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:25 pm

Kazokuhouou wrote:Is this a universe where Pluto never gets downgraded, or is this a universe where it does, and Usagi promises to restore its planetary status when she becomes Queen?

When Eris is discovered, and the IAF realizes it has to come up with an actual formal definition of a planet, the definition ends up being based on the type of associated star seed. Pluto is a planet because Sailor Pluto has a planet-type star seed, Ceres is an asteroid because Sailor Ceres has an asteroid-type star seed, and so on.

Kazokuhouou wrote:Will Chibiusa make a cameo in the final arc? Seeing as she's the only senshi out of the main ten that hasn't.

Wait and see! (That's going to be my answer to all questions about "What will happen in the final arc?", so save 'em. Come on, it's only going to be a month before you see them for yourselves. ...Well, maybe more than a month, depending on how many more questions get asked.)

An aside, would I be correct in seeing an event like this in utterly destroying the backing many white-supremacist and neo-nazi groups worldwide receive?

It puts a damper on them for a long time, at least. They're awfully resilient; even the Holocaust couldn't wipe them out entirely. They're like cockroaches that way.
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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby Xuanwu on Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:06 pm

flyboy254 wrote:1: An attack of this kind of scale would force a major review of all threats, worldwide and US specific. Any memo about any group or individual planning an attack would be followed up on slightly, and once they see Osama in their records as a fundamentalist with a bent against the US, they'd do their best to ferret him out.

My point was that the Clinton administration had a very poor track record of pursuing bin Laden, even after the Cole attack. Gore would probably not be too much different. (Al-Qaeda's one of those multi-presidency issues, since the CIA is the one that gave him money just a decade earlier.) Plus, the reconstruction efforts domestically would distract from foreign enemies. It's in politician's nature to be distracted from actual problems by their party ideology. It's why Bush invaded Iraq instead of dealing with things like the housing bubble.

2: This kind of disaster would also force the US to review it's disaster response plans, meaning that snags and snares in organizations like FEMA could be straightened out. Would things be faster and more efficient? Maybe.

9/11 gave us Homeland Security, which has been a step down in efficiency rather than a step-up. I was projecting from that. It's possible a super-group that absorbs FEMA into its architecture could be created. However, regardless of FEMA's effectiveness, the local and state government in Louisiana and New Orleans would still be inept. So that would continue to cause a lot of issues.

3: Maybe the Tea Party didn't form. But the thing is that fringe government groups form in the US all the time, and the one who managed to shout the loudest would still get the national attention. In this case, though, it'd be from either left wingers who thought the US to be too harsh, or right wingers who think we aren't doing enough to prevent another disaster.

Good point. I forgot about left-wing fringe groups. MoveOn and Code Pink would likely not arise since it'd be a Democrat enacting enhanced interrogation (supposedly only for "Millennium stragglers") and rendition. Though they never really had much influence on elections, unlike the much larger Tea Party. If a right-wing group did pop up, it would probably lack the strong Ron Paul inspired Libertarian streak of the current Tea Party (which is ~50% of it), so it would not be as influential on the mainstream as the current one. Since Nazis are socialists, I would predict that Democrats would have to disavow pretty much any "government control of the economy" perceptions for risk of being called Millennium sympathizers. (Gore could get away with the EPA via Global Warming, but not much else.) So that would certainly put America into an upswing if it inspired a steady deconstruction of some of the socialist-based programs created in the previous century.

Here's a question:

After the 1999 attack, was Godwin's Law repealed for a bit since people had experiences with actual Nazis?
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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby Kazokuhouou on Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:30 pm

SailorPtah wrote:
An aside, would I be correct in seeing an event like this in utterly destroying the backing many white-supremacist and neo-nazi groups worldwide receive?

It puts a damper on them for a long time, at least. They're awfully resilient; even the Holocaust couldn't wipe them out entirely. They're like cockroaches that way.


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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby Xuanwu on Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:29 pm

After 1999, does "Millennium sympathizer" enter the lexicon (ala Nazi sympathizer)?

How many people are aware of the name of the group that perpetrated the attack? How much of the details are made public?

Are there "Millennium truthers" out there claiming the vampires were created by the world governments?

Do zeppelins come back into style or the opposite? Does Led Zeppelin change its name?
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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby Kazokuhouou on Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:18 am

So since vampires don't become a 'trend' in Shineverse, what trend popped up in its place or did they skip straight to zombies?
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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby SailorPtah on Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:11 am

Millennium sympathizers are much harder to come by than Nazi sympathizers, since Millennium targeted everyone. Even the most unrepentant bigots can't go around thinking "this only affects ~lesser~ people, but not me, because I'm Christian/white/blonde-and-blue-eyed/whatever." Truthers...yeah, there are always truthers. Nobody cares one way or another about zeppelins.

Everyone knows the name of the group, and general information about its leaders and their methods.

Zombies don't become a trend either; too many people with loved ones who were turned into ghouls. The existence of Schroedinger is *not* common knowledge, so maybe the next big thing is cat-people. (Thundercats gets back on-air even earlier, riding the trend.)
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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby Kazokuhouou on Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:37 pm

Will Yumiko ever reconcile with her soeur?

Come to think of it, did she even get a name?
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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby flyboy254 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:34 pm

Do the world's conventional armies start creating their own anti-vampire units and developing specialized anti-vampire and monster hunting tactics of their own? I don't mean groups like Hellsing, but already known groups, like Delta Force, Seal Team 6, and even regular front line units, like the National Guard.

How do first responders learn to deal with the undead? Are police trained to deal with arresting vampires? Do EMTs and firefighters learn to fight fires in ghoul infested structures?

How did the other monsters of the world fare, like werewolves, aliens, fae and cryptids?
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For those who still insist on treating vampirism as a romantic existence, consider the suicide note left behind by Jacob Drexel, member of a prominent Philadelphia family who was transformed in 1937. After Drexel leaped off the City Hall tower one snowy night, a suicide note was found that closed with the following lines: "I have been living in constant torment over the unspeakable acts I have committed, and yet I am powerless to stop committing them. May God forgive me."

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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby StS on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:21 pm

Heh, created an account just to post here. ._. I've long been a lurker and, I'm happy to say, one of those who stayed with the comic from start to end. ...at least, I first got into the comic two years after it first got published online. :P So, predictably, my question's pretty sentimental:

How would each of the characters respond to the ending of Shine? I mean, even those who've died should more or less feel something about it since they won't even be appearing any more in strips that cut to what's going on in hell and/or heaven.
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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby SailorPtah on Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:17 am

Kazokuhouou wrote:Will Yumiko ever reconcile with her soeur?

Come to think of it, did she even get a name?

No, and no. But they've both moved on, and they'll both find happiness.

flyboy254 wrote:Do the world's conventional armies start creating their own anti-vampire units and developing specialized anti-vampire and monster hunting tactics of their own? I don't mean groups like Hellsing, but already known groups, like Delta Force, Seal Team 6, and even regular front line units, like the National Guard.

How do first responders learn to deal with the undead? Are police trained to deal with arresting vampires? Do EMTs and firefighters learn to fight fires in ghoul infested structures?

Yes; better; yes; yes. (Someone should write "A Day In The Life Of A First Responder, Post-'99", but that someone will not be me.)

flyboy254 wrote:How did the other monsters of the world fare, like werewolves, aliens, fae and cryptids?

Depends on the monster. Some cryptids are hunted more enthusiastically now that people know other myths are true, but they don't know the difference (the ones that exist, anyway). Intelligent individuals with more power than ordinary humans (including everyone from D and Crowley to Robin and Anthy) tread more carefully. It's not that people are afraid of them, but people are very afraid of vampires, and many are willing to attack anyone who exhibits any vampire-esque traits. (The exception is magical girls, who have great publicity, as always.)

StS wrote:Heh, created an account just to post here. ._. I've long been a lurker and, I'm happy to say, one of those who stayed with the comic from start to end. ...at least, I first got into the comic two years after it first got published online. :P So, predictably, my question's pretty sentimental:

How would each of the characters respond to the ending of Shine? I mean, even those who've died should more or less feel something about it since they won't even be appearing any more in strips that cut to what's going on in hell and/or heaven.

Thanks for reading, and thanks for delurking <3

That...is an excellent question. I'll have to think about it to pull together some good answers. And I may save it for last - it sounds like the one to go out on =)
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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby flyboy254 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:17 am

SailorPtah wrote:(Someone should write "A Day In The Life Of A First Responder, Post-'99", but that someone will not be me.)


Why, is that a request, Ms. Ptah?
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For those who still insist on treating vampirism as a romantic existence, consider the suicide note left behind by Jacob Drexel, member of a prominent Philadelphia family who was transformed in 1937. After Drexel leaped off the City Hall tower one snowy night, a suicide note was found that closed with the following lines: "I have been living in constant torment over the unspeakable acts I have committed, and yet I am powerless to stop committing them. May God forgive me."

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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby SailorPtah on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:57 pm

flyboy254 wrote:
SailorPtah wrote:(Someone should write "A Day In The Life Of A First Responder, Post-'99", but that someone will not be me.)


Why, is that a request, Ms. Ptah?

Call it an invitation ^_^
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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby flyboy254 on Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:20 am

And there we go, "A Night in the Life of a First Responder: Post '99", up an' ready.
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For those who still insist on treating vampirism as a romantic existence, consider the suicide note left behind by Jacob Drexel, member of a prominent Philadelphia family who was transformed in 1937. After Drexel leaped off the City Hall tower one snowy night, a suicide note was found that closed with the following lines: "I have been living in constant torment over the unspeakable acts I have committed, and yet I am powerless to stop committing them. May God forgive me."

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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby SailorPtah on Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:36 pm

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7419003/1/A ... er_Post_99

...So it's an alternate universe where I have a straight doppelganger living in NY. Huh.

Fascinating detail with the technical stuff, as always ^_^
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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby flyboy254 on Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:12 am

Oh...sorry. If you want, I'll rewrite it to be a female vampire.

So anyone have any thoughts or opinions on the story?
Vampires can be exceedingly charming when they need to be. They will joke, cajole and flatter, and just when you think, "vampires aren't so bad," you've got a pair of fangs buried in your neck.

For those who still insist on treating vampirism as a romantic existence, consider the suicide note left behind by Jacob Drexel, member of a prominent Philadelphia family who was transformed in 1937. After Drexel leaped off the City Hall tower one snowy night, a suicide note was found that closed with the following lines: "I have been living in constant torment over the unspeakable acts I have committed, and yet I am powerless to stop committing them. May God forgive me."

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Re: Doujinshi-Ka's Last Inbox

Postby SailorPtah on Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:42 pm

flyboy254 wrote:Oh...sorry. If you want, I'll rewrite it to be a female vampire.

Please do ^_^;
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