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Postby TheSuburbanLetdown on Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:36 am

Dutch! wrote:Apologies if that came across wrong...I could just as simply have said manga, anime or other styles and content that I personally find don't pluck my interest.

It wasn't a potshot, so I'm sorry if you picked it up that way. I don't mind the odd potshot, no, but I try to make sure the people I take them at know it's coming or will most probably play along.

So yeah, sorry if it caused offense.

I accept your apology. We all have things that don't interest us, so I don't really mind too much on that front (I mean, you can't like everything; I certainly don't), but it sometimes feels like a kick in the face when it's constantly brought up.

MrEff wrote:My question to P.A.L. is are we going to find out the backstory behind your characters? They seem somewhat pessimistic (not all of them) and down in the dumps alot.... but they seem to have reason.... I'm wondering if we will get to see that reason in future strips...

Oh I plan on that in the future. I just wanted start off somewhat lighthearted at first to establish characters. This comic will have a real ending, and not be indefinite (unless I get killed, which in that case, this comic will belong to Yeahduff).
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Postby Christwriter on Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:42 pm

PeppermintAfterlife wrote:I found the Christwriter review to be helpful, and much of it I agree with. ..

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In my opinion the tighter a story is, the better. In experiance, this is MUCH harder to do, but I've noticed that whenever the story is so well written and the plot lines seem to snap from the tention that's when I read the fastest. It doesn't mean you can't have quiet moments in the story, but there's always something going on that ties into the rest of it.

And the fingers are doing better. Now they're just really, really pink and numb on the worst of the burned spot.

Which might be a good thing in a way. These are my drawing fingers. :(

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Postby Ida on Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:47 am

Review for The Blue Skunk is done! :D
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Postby Christwriter on Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:04 pm

Thanks Ida. You pointed out a couple of things I can take advantage of...especially that thing about developing the other characters more. My biggest problem is that doing the pretty colored pages takes too long for me to spend much time on anybody other than Lucille and still be reasonable with the pacing.

I did have the idea of upping the updates by throwing in b&w pages of something else happening at the same time...kinda like having two story-lines running at the same time. I just don't know how well that would work, because I like having Lucy's (the main) storyline in color, and I wouldn't want to interrupt that flow to tell the side stories...

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Postby The Neko on Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:35 pm

Wow, YeahDuff's review was very well-done; especially lines like "Go For It punchlines involve beloved childhood icons committing murder suicides and consumerist junkies suffering organ failure after a lifestyle of binge advocated by commercials."

I've also never seen someone go so in-depth to my humor style before, which is really impressive. Although, I'd say mine's a mix of Daria and American comic-book. (If you examine Japanese styles and American style, there's quite a few similarities, and the origins of the former are strongly based in the latter.)

Thanks for the review, YeahDuff. The "high-school age nihilism" versus "actual satire" thing is definitely food for thought.
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Postby Yeahduff on Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:54 am

I struggled with that last line. Glad you took it the way I intended, not as some backhanded remark.

Point taken about the art.

Glad you got something from the review.
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Postby MrEff on Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:58 am

I'm just glad it hadn't died



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Postby Faub on Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:29 am

:D Okay, that was funny. no arm jokes are better with a straight man.
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Postby Ida on Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:59 am

No arms AND Peanuts spoof. Now, that's humor.
(Actually, you did make me want to read your comic. *Goes to check* )
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Postby Nicotine on Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:30 am

I have a question: How many comics do you suggest having before playing the game? I'd like to play, even though my archive is pretty microscopic XD.
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Postby Ida on Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:35 am

I don't think there's a required page count (I could be wrong through) - as I understand it, it's more a matter of the comic being 'ready' - that is, the story has gotten to the point (if it's a story comic), or, if it's ahumor comic, there are enough comics online to give a feeling of the characters and humor. That being said, five comics might be a bit too little to base a review on. :wink:
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Postby Nicotine on Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:47 am

Ida wrote:I don't think there's a required page count (I could be wrong through) - as I understand it, it's more a matter of the comic being 'ready' - that is, the story has gotten to the point (if it's a story comic), or, if it's ahumor comic, there are enough comics online to give a feeling of the characters and humor. That being said, five comics might be a bit too little to base a review on. :wink:


That's what I was thinking, thankies :)
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Postby Nightgaunt on Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:23 pm

20 pages would probably be a good minimum. That's what's required for the pitching forum and to get your own forum, right? Seems to be the standard.
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Postby Levi-chan on Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:21 pm

I did mine at 12 pages - so there's really no threshold, methinks. Just enough comics to identify where things are going, and how the art/humor style is.

Also - I dug Mr. Neko's review; it was concise and spelled out what can be improved clearly. I don't regret getting into the thread this early, it helped me fix things up before I could lay the foundations. Sorta.
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Postby McDuffies on Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:30 pm

Nicotine wrote:I have a question: How many comics do you suggest having before playing the game? I'd like to play, even though my archive is pretty microscopic XD.

I don't think anyone would be mad... but you'd get a really innacurate and indecisive review. If it's ok with you, hey, it definitely is ok with me. :D
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Postby Nicotine on Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:52 pm

Levi-chan wrote:I did mine at 12 pages - so there's really no threshold, methinks. Just enough comics to identify where things are going, and how the art/humor style is.

Also - I dug Mr. Neko's review; it was concise and spelled out what can be improved clearly. I don't regret getting into the thread this early, it helped me fix things up before I could lay the foundations. Sorta.


That's a good point...I don't want to have a bunch of comics and then find out something's terribly wrong XD. But, I've decided to wait until about 20.
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Postby Mvmarcz on Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:05 pm

I already have a little over 30 up >_> I'm scared to go in there :hides:
Also I need to redo the first 5 or 6 pages because I did them on my old computer so I don't have the photoshop files, and the colors are severly off because my old monitor was dieing.(I lost 3 years of stuff ;_;)

but yeah....I scared of weviews
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Postby AsterAzul on Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:41 pm

I'm waiting until a) I'm out of school and b) I'm at least partway through my third chapter.

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Postby Dutch! on Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:06 am

You never know how you take it until you jump in there and get it given to you.




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Postby MrEff on Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:54 am

Ida wrote:No arms AND Peanuts spoof. Now, that's humor.
(Actually, you did make me want to read your comic. *Goes to check* )


Ahhhhh good.... I'm glad someone picked up on the "Peanuts" vision I was trying to get across!! Have fun poking around me comic!


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