Wii demand satisfaction

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:28 pm

Hate to break it to ya, but it's not really considered an FPS by many people becasue of its heavy emphasis on exploration and platforming conventions typical of the Metroid Franchise. Other than bosses, there isn't a whole lot of combat involved.

Col · Post by **Col** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:01 pm

There's plenty of combat involved in those games, and just because there's a ton of exploration and platforming doesn't mean it's not a first-person shooter. I'm sure there are other games that have just as much of those traits as Metroid. The fact that you're playing the game from the viewpoint of the actual character with the gun in-front of you, shooting away at enemies and objects makes it an FPS. If it was like the original games, it would be a side-scroller. It's just the definition of it on the most basic terms of gameplay.

Yeahduff · Post by **Yeahduff** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:22 pm

The correct answer is.... kinda, but not really.

Indisputable is that it's primarily first person, and you shoot things. Certainly the influence of Doom/Wolfenstein is quite apparent.

However, the gameplay is quite different than your Dooms or Quakes. Rarely are you charged with blasting your way out of situation, there isn't much emphasis on ammo, there's a lot of platform jumping and puzzle solving. As Chris said, all the things you found in the sidescrolling Metroid you find here. No one would claim the original Metroid was a shooter, and so it follows that the new 3D Metroids, with the similar concepts in construction and gameplay, isn't a shooter either. Much like the new Zelda's brought all the old conventions and ideas and brought them into a 3D world, Metroid Prime is simply an update, using first person as the easiest way of executing the idea.

In summation, it is first person, but not a shooter.

Col · Post by **Col** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:13 am

That works. I really need to get back to Metroid Prime 2...

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:02 am

I need to get back to Metroid Prime 1. I got to the end with 92-94% of the items ( don't remember) and wanted to find them all before beating it. But then I kinda stopped playing. I decided not to fall into the same trap with Zelda so I'm trying to beat it and then find the last few odds and ends later. But I'm so goddamn close to having everything. GAH! I need 10 more poe souls and 3 heart pieces.

I don't know how to kill Ganon either.

Col · Post by **Col** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:08 am

Honestly, I never beat Metroid Prime 1. That last boss was freaking insane, so I've moved on. I feel better for it.

Whatupwidat · Post by **Whatupwidat** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:50 am

I was always a Sega kid as well, so that might be part of my distrust of Nintendo too

I take it you all know about how the Playstation got started? Nintendo contracted with Sony to build an addon for the SNES, but Sony wanted to make a new console, not an addon. So they took the PS1 elsewhere and made it themselves.

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:10 am

Heh, yeah. I actually mentioned that earlier in the thread during one of my long-winded meanderings. That and sticking to the dated cartridge format is the story of how they lost tons of third party support, which is something they still haven't receovered from. Luckily their first party franchises are strong. Otherwise they could've died a terrible death.

I need to pick up a Saturn somehow so I can play Radiant Silvergun.

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:30 am

I finished Twilight Princess at the 65 hour mark. Wicked.

Yeahduff · Post by **Yeahduff** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:02 am

I suppose you want a goddamn cookie or something.

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:45 am

Not really. A game like that surpasses the joy any cookie can ever hope to achieve giving a human being. That was one hell of a journey and playing it was like a religious experience (I consider the original Zelda to be sacred). Now, to get a Wii and do it all again, but with a reversed map.

Whatupwidat · Post by **Whatupwidat** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:16 pm

You're a thrill seeking madman, mate!

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:29 pm

I sure am. I pretty sure the mirrored map will throw me off quite a bit since I'm so used to the gamecube version. Plus the adjustment period getting accustomed to the wiimote.

Col · Post by **Col** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:23 am

I can't stop playing Okami!

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:53 am

I need to pick that one up.

Col · Post by **Col** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:34 pm

It will eat away your soul.

Whatupwidat · Post by **Whatupwidat** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:44 pm

I can't stop playing Flatout 2 for the PC myself, it's like Destruction Derby 2 all over again...

Never Mayhem · Post by **Never Mayhem** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:55 pm

Ok, I played the damn thing... I liked Super Swing Golf and Zelda, but I got so pissed at Uncle Bob. How dare he accuse me of having an affair with my caddy. Wii Sport was fun, but that boxing game had me against the ropes. And what is it with being able to pick up and hug a puppy in Zelda? The line needs to be drawn somewhere.

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:02 pm

I put the puppy on the table so it'd stop following me. I tried to put it in the fireplace, but that was beyond the parameters of the programming. I also wasn't allowed to pick up the cat with the hawk.

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:49 am

Argh! My supervisor just got a Wii over the weekend!