PortableNuke wrote:Name the top ten Jack Black roles with an explanation of why. Go!
Heh, I dunno. He's a talented guy, but I feel like people cast him just because he's Jack Black.
PortableNuke wrote:Name the top ten Jack Black roles with an explanation of why. Go!
TheSuburbanLetdown wrote:Paul Escobar wrote:TheSuburbanLetdown wrote:Despite the recent trend in American animation of having films that target adults [...]
I'm blanking out here - which films would that be?
I guess it's up for debate, but The Incredibles is pretty adult-oriented, especially with themes of a mid-life crisis applied to super heros, plus the whole scene with the head of InsuraCare. That movie worked well for kids, but it felt more adult to me. The Shrek movies had a lot of adult humor in them as well with jokes that would go over the heads of most kids. Kung Fu Panda felt like a kids movie to me much of the time.
TheSuburbanLetdown wrote:Kung Fu panda works for both kids and adults, but it definitely leans way more to the kid side. The villain had the potential for more complexity, but I recall from the commentary that they purposely didn't want the viewer to be too sympathetic to him.
Paul Escobar wrote:Yeah, Miyazaki's films are awesome. I particularly like how they completely ignore the traditional (Western) way of setting up and telling a story and just do their own thing. If this is a Japanese thing or just a Miyazaki thing, I don't know.
I think "Nausicaa" would either scare or bore kids, but it's one of my favourites of his.
Paul Escobar wrote:Peppermint wrote:Kung Fu panda works for both kids and adults, but it definitely leans way more to the kid side. The villain had the potential for more complexity, but I recall from the commentary that they purposely didn't want the viewer to be too sympathetic to him.
Huh, that's a bit odd. Normally, it's said that having a sympathetic bad guy is important in that type of story.
Peppermint wrote:I've not seen Paprika yet. I hear it really messes with your head.
Peppermint wrote:PortableNuke wrote:Name the top ten Jack Black roles with an explanation of why. Go!
Heh, I dunno. He's a talented guy, but I feel like people cast him just because he's Jack Black.
Hungrywolf wrote:The Walt Disney of Japan they call him.
Hungrywolf wrote:More accurately I think, he does something so absolutely wonderful, that it transcends language and cultural barriers.
Hungrywolf wrote:Paul Escobar wrote:Normally, it's said that having a sympathetic bad guy is important in that type of story.
Yeah that goes back to the whole Western way of telling a story.
Paul Escobar wrote:Hungrywolf wrote:The Walt Disney of Japan they call him.
I thought that epithet belonged to Osamu Tezuka. (That, and several others, the most impressive being manga no kamisama - the god of comics. But I digress.)
Paul Escobar wrote:Hungrywolf wrote:Paul Escobar wrote:Normally, it's said that having a sympathetic bad guy is important in that type of story.
Yeah that goes back to the whole Western way of telling a story.
Well, "Kung Fu Panda" is an American film! And generally, that "good bad guy" thing tends to work very well, to the point where that character becomes the one who carries the movie, rather than the hero.
PortableNuke wrote:Hey Hungry, is your location a nod to San Fernando being the Porn Capital of the World?
ComradeK wrote:Sorta on-topic. Watch the movie "The Plague Dogs." Animated, but not for kids. Anyway, as for my personal opinion on the recent trend in animation, I feel as though most of the movies are moving too far away from what used to make them epic, and closer to what's profitable. Some manage to keep that feeling, Miyazaki films for example, or Pixar, but a lot of recent stuff just isn't memorable or classic. Kid's probably won't remember Shrek the way they'll remember the Secret of NIMH.
Hungrywolf wrote:I sorta want to check out "Watership Down." I've heard some interesting things. I'll try looking that one up as well. "The Plague Dogs."
ComradeK wrote: Kid's probably won't remember Shrek the way they'll remember the Secret of NIMH.
PortableNuke wrote:I do agree with your basic point: animation has gotten softer. I would like to see much more hardcore, darker fare. Batman the Animated Series and the movie from that are good examples. The X-Man animated series was good too, but it didn't push as many boundaries.
Redcrow wrote:PortableNuke wrote:I do agree with your basic point: animation has gotten softer. I would like to see much more hardcore, darker fare. Batman the Animated Series and the movie from that are good examples. The X-Man animated series was good too, but it didn't push as many boundaries.
I don't think American Animation will ever be edgy, generally speaking. Batman the Animated Series certainly pushed the envelope a bit, but it was produced for broadcast television.
For your Darkness Hit, I recommend Tekkonkinekreet. It's about two streetkids living in what seems to my Western eyes to be a parallel-universe Tokyo of the 1960's.
The director is an American expatriate, if you can believe that.
ShannC wrote:The "Walt Disney of Japan" thing only holds up as far as high-budget animated + family/children films + huge distribution.
Users browsing this forum: AhrefsBot and 2 guests