Severed Ties ------->The current arc

Man in a suit · Post by **Man in a suit** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:48 pm

I find Bebop's dub to be quite unpalatable. Of course, I am a purist of the worst kind.
Dubs offend me beyond the level of poor execution, though. Before a show is dubbed over, it's script is basically rewritten by whomever is doing the dubbing. As difficult a job as I'm sure it is, the focus tends to be on fitting the dialogue into a pre-existing amount of time. While I doubt that anyone conciously makes an effort to change the meaning of what is said, oftentimes a change in meaning, context and/or subtext is the result.
In the end, it is of course a matter of personal preference. People who enjoy dubs may watch them at their leisure, just as long as I don't have to.
Is that destroyed enough for you? Or would you prefer some FLAMES?!
God, dubs suck. anyone who likes them is a big fat doody head!
How's that? Needs work, doesn't it?

Fallen_angel · Post by **Fallen_angel** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:14 pm

The Negima dub is outstanding.

Gildedtongue · Post by **Gildedtongue** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:27 pm

Outlaw Star's dub isn't too too bad either.

Hmmmm, interesting brush stroke there, Ryan... trying to convey your blindness to the world's issues?

Karl Falcon · Post by **Karl Falcon** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:42 pm

Perhaps he's finally decided what should go in his hand as well. I'm thinking a "weapon" ...of some kind.

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:33 pm

This scene wasn't in the draft, because I didn't realize I'd need a good transition to the next day. Oops. This painting wasn't going to come back up till later, but oh well. Here we are.

man in a suit wrote:Is that destroyed enough for you? Or would you prefer some FLAMES?!
God, dubs suck. anyone who likes them is a big fat doody head!
How's that? Needs work, doesn't it?

I'll give you flames:

Gildedtongue · Post by **Gildedtongue** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:27 am

Ryan's face in the second to last panel is absolutely awesome.

Fallen_angel · Post by **Fallen_angel** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:20 am

Hell, that whole page is excellent.

Another dub that worked out great was the Hellsing dub, I just realised.

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:46 am

In a moment of true rarity, I like the faces on the page a lot. Especially panel 2 and 6. And 4.

Gildedtongue · Post by **Gildedtongue** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:24 pm

Maybe I just like panel 6 because I like looking at men with phallic objects in their mouths...

Well, yes, but really because Ryan looks unusually cat-like. Like he's just de-winged a fly and is slowly ready to deliver the coup d'grace.

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:04 am

Yeah, he does look prety catty. Which is good because I never really thought he looked cat-like enough. Devious is the word I kept thinking of.

Paul Escobar · Post by **Paul Escobar** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:35 pm

theSuburbanLetdown wrote:Yeah, he does look prety catty. Which is good because I never really thought he looked cat-like enough.

Are the characters' personalities supposed to be reflected by what animal they draw their features from? Ryan seems to lack the mischievousness inherent in cats... (Or am I misreading things, and you're talking purely about a face-design thing?)

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:16 pm

Oh, I meant mostly that he looks more catlike than usual in those panels. As for personality, I go with the other cat sterotype, which is laziness and foul temperment.

If you're wondering why it took forever to answer, I'm in San Diego, CA with not internet connection. Except for right now.

Paul Escobar · Post by **Paul Escobar** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:09 pm

Ah OK. Hehe, I think we've got all the cat stereotypes down now. There aren't that many. Dog stereotypes OTOH...

And I've been on Christmas holidays with no net connection myself for five days, so... no wonder.

How's San Diego? All I know about it is that it's got Comic-Con.

Karl Falcon · Post by **Karl Falcon** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:22 am

Augh. I was wrong again. Dang unpredictable cat-artists...

Christmas vacation: wreaking havoc on folks' 'net access since the 'net was invented.

Gildedtongue · Post by **Gildedtongue** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:10 pm

Not a good image edit, but...

"I'm Playin' mah Zelda, bitch!"

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:35 pm

HA! That's fuckin' awesome.

No update tomorrow since I'm still on vacation, even though I'm actually back at home and have to go to work tomorrow. I'll post some crap though, since I'm toying with the idea of changing the drawing slightyly again.

Gildedtongue · Post by **Gildedtongue** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:24 am

Awwr, everyone's gone leaving poor Maynard all awone.

And, yay for more sketchy updates! Yeah, I like these, not sure why.

Paul Escobar · Post by **Paul Escobar** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:00 pm

I like to see the sketch versions, too. It's like you get a glimpse of the artist's working process.

But the inked version is delicious - nice brushwork. Maynard looks quite annoyed. (Then again, he often does.)

Oh, the notion of an "Alien" remake with a shipwreck and a Victorian mansion is so marketable that you ought to sell the idea and strike it rich!

Bloodied Fox · Post by **Bloodied Fox** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:49 pm

If such a film happens, I'm afraid I will be forced to take measures, Mr Letdown

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:57 pm

I dunno, it sounds pretty funny. It'd be much better than Alien 3.

The first two were fantastic. 3 sucked. Resurrection was entertaining, but didn't need to be made. It's funny how it was directed by the same guy that did "Le Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain."