"InterGalactic"

Postby Michelle on Fri Aug 24, 2001 1:30 am

The double-posts are probally due to the annoying lag you get from Keenspace servers. That tends to happen on cool free hosts. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/frown.gif"><P>You could have them *all* travel really fast, and the planets can totally be deserted, except for old stubborn people who don't want to leave, and then when they get back entire civilizations can be in ruin, and this can be where the Omnies take over. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"><P>But you probally have stuff worked out, and you really shouldn't sacrifise story for scientificness (yes, "story" <I>is</I> a word!).<P>------------------
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Postby ZOMBIE USER 4659 on Sun Aug 26, 2001 2:50 am

Woh, that ain't my fault! I ain't taking responsibility for that. It was happening all around keenspace around the time the servers crapped out. Oh well, atleast my post count went up *glee*<P>------------------
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Postby DeosArcana on Tue Aug 28, 2001 8:34 am

Here's an idea that steals from Star Wars a little. The idea of multiple states of 'Space'<P>For the most part, we all exist in Regular Space, where Time and Space are at a fixed ratio. I.E It takes X amount of time to Travel Y amount depending on speeds less than relatavistic.<P>There also exists two other states of 'Space'. First is UnderSpace, where Space is expanded exponentially in relation to Time. Therefore any travel done in UnderSpace will take many times what it would take in Regular Space. The only difference is, Entropy is also affected. So even though you spend centuries travelling a distance that would normally take only years or decades, you have not aged at all. However, everyone else in Regular Space has suffered those centuries which you spent travelling. It's inefficient, but a great way to capitalize on bank investments.<P>On the opposite side is HyperSpace. Here, Space is greatly compressed, but Time is greatly expanded. Thus travel can be achieved neigh-instantaneously, but the Entropic effects on organics would be tremendous. (A trip of only a few days would age you decades)<P>Now, to prevent such travel from killing its occupants, one could use a Statis system which preserves the occupants while they travel in HyperSpace. Under such conditions, the Entropic effects of HyperSpace are reduced below even those of Regular Space (Therefore, you age even slower than normal because your entire body is in Stasis). Such a system makes it possible to span incredible distances in a very short amount of time, without adverse effects on the occupants of the vessels in question.<P>It also sounds really nifty, even if it is mumbo-jumbo bullshit that I just made up. So there you go, all ships are equipped with a HyperSpace engine and all occupants can be cryogenically frozen while they travel. Almost immediately after they debark from HyperSpace, they are unfrozen and restored to normal. This also makes for interesting inter-galactic combat, as you have to properly estimate how long it takes to recover from this and become combat ready.<P>Imagine crews that exit HyperSpace only to be blasted to smithereens before they even wake up. Creepy isn't it?
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Postby IO II on Tue Aug 28, 2001 9:23 am

I guess this is a "no physics" way of explaining things.<P>You could just change the definition of a year to be 1 galactic year (the time it takes for a galaxy to spin around once. That way you could have a really long intergalactic war 'cos 1 galactic year is millions (billions?) of Earth years long.<P>Or, because the characters live on Forbes, it could be 300 Forbesian (sp?) years, because Forbes might take a long time to orbit its sun (say 10000 Earth years or something).
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Postby Michelle on Thu Aug 30, 2001 1:53 am

Ouch...my brain hurts. You're smart. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>------------------
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Postby Dewrf on Thu Aug 30, 2001 4:44 am

Sorry for not posting sooner but my comp is in pices on the floor as my GFX card and MB sort died on me and i'm waiting for replacements(p.s. i'm using another somp to post this :'p just incase you where wondering)<P>Any how here are my theries on how to get FTL speeds but err.......its quite long k :'/<P>
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This is quite a longish post and you have to read it all the way through to understand what i'm talking abouth err i hope.
Anyhow is you have any questions like what is a singulary or am i mad then plz dont hesatae to post.
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Hmm my fav subject therietical physics(i.e. space travel stuff)..<P>Ok heres a few theries that i came up with while thinking(bad habbit)...you can use these if it will help the comic...<P>Ok my therie is that the speed of light or any enegry wave is infinite...<P>...BUT the resion we detect a speed limet in light is because of are current posion in the universe...in are current posion in the universe are space is bent....which explanes a lot but isen't importent right now :'/...or in other words space is compresed not bent....<P>Ok ill give you an example on how you can slow down light...<P>If you fire a gun and you messure the spped of the bullet you will find that it traves abouth a mile a secend(althou i'm not sure on this)...<P>...Now fire the same gun under water and messure the speed of the bullet you will find out that the bullet traves a few meters per secend a huge slowdown this is because there is more preseure for the bullet to travel through under water than there is throw air....ok got that...<P>Now the thing is that matter like air or water bends light, refracts it i should say BUT it doesnt slow it down the only thing that can slow down light is the physical space of are universe...so the resion that light has a speed limet is because of the restrictions are universe imposes on it..<P>...So if you compress space light will slow down if you expand spece light will speed up...if cource you can't detect this happing dew to the fact that if you strech space or contrat it you own perception of the universe will also strech and contract giving you the impresion that nothing is happing but lets carry on anyhow...<P>p.s. this also explanes how you can't travel faster than the speed of light as any matter going past the SOL(speed of light) gets crushed by the very space its traving throu...like pushing something through water realy fast, the space becomes as soid as a wall...well this and some problems with time but i'm not even going to even go there...<P>OK so now we now that light or energy hasen't a speed limet are universe does..So how can we explot this :') Ok one way you can get around this is by using thaycons..<P>....Hmm thaycons isen't some kind of fruit? Err Well no, what these are..are particals of matter that can go faster than the speed of light...err which i proved above can't happen well the resion these particals can go faster than SOL is because they CHEAT yes there little cheaters...These particals are phased...now before you lynch me on grounds of sprouting technobabble hear me out...particals which are phased mean that they are in a state of flux.....err more simply there halfway between energy and matter they do NOT have a physical prences but they affect space anyhow...<P>...err ok for thouse out there that dont understand what matter and space has to do with each other ill give a brief(for me anyway) explanaction...<P>
Ok all matter in the unevierse effects space by bending it into it self...this common phnomonon is genraly called gravity...<P>Now most of you have experenced gravity at some point in your life >:'D for thouse that haven't do this 1: get an apple 2: hold it infrount of you and 3: let go...Now it should drop straght down...if it did not plz goway as you ppl hurt my head...as for the rest of you what you have observed is called gravity...the apple has been sucked toward this big durt ball we call a planet..<P>..the planet has sucked the space surounding it inward and caused a gravity well and any other matter that comes near this gravity well get sucked in and gets drawn to the source which happens to be a planet and this gives us gravity...Whoot for are planet :')<P>OK now that we know how matter effects space i should tell you that only matter affects space, energy doesn't dew to the fact that it doent have a physical prences in the universe its made up of soemthing else(WHICH I'M NOT GOING TO EXPLNE cos it inviolves quontom therie and stuff :'z) BUT energy does affect matter by exciting it in different ways when it passes or encounters it and excited matter affects space and as we know the only thing that effects energy is space so this complets a circle (energy effects = matter effects = space effects = energy)...<P>
Whoot time for a short recap you now know how space effects energy by giving it limmets and difanictions(like speed) and you also know how matter affects space by warping it to its self...NOW as we where talking about thacyons and how despite all that i have told you that this piece of energy can effect space and this is how it does it...<P>
OK firstly thacyons aren't really pices of energy nor are they piceas of matter they are matter in flux i.e. there in a state of beening turned into energy but aren't full changed yet...they have all the propetys of energy i.e. heat, light, xrays(radiaction) BUT thay still warp space...now what this means for the thacions is that all the limets imposed on energy dones't apply to them as they can make there own limmets up just by the way there formed...<P>...Ok now cence Thacyons dont have a physical body this means that you can have more than 1 thacyon in the same spot and not cause problems the only thing is that the spacal warping just incresess and you can do this as meany times as you want...now thacyons can't do this on there own unless by accadent or design...<P>Now to the point if you get enuf thacyons in one spot and fire them in a direction they will travel faster than the speed of light as the space there traveling throu is different than "noraml" space (its differnt cos there changing noraml to there version as they travel along) <P>Now the resion they cheat is this...to calculate speed you take the (distance / time = speed) for example 10,000 / hour = 10,000 miles per hour, BUT if thacyons have warped space to 10 times less its noraml size than it works out as 10,000 / 1 hour x 10 = 100,000 miles per hour quite a diference.<P>Now in there own little pocket of space the thacyons are traveling at the noraml speed of energy probly the speed of light BUT the amount of space they travel though has been warped down to less than it would "normaly" be...<P>err ill try to explce it better if you need me to.<P>
Anyhow, how is this going to help us as the amount of space warped by the thacyons is realy small? Well you can do one of a few things...<P>1: you can encase yourself/ship in a spacal field...this is somesort of electromagnetic field that simulates space and once activated "traps" the space it encompuses from the rest of the universe...now the space inside this bubble seams normal, time moves the same and distinces are the same and this does not change no matter whats happening out side the bubble cence its cut off from there.<P>(EXP: ok now your wondering how can electromagnetic fields chnage space well there are meany different types of Eletromagintic fields these range from heat, light, UV, x-rays, and the magnetic fields on a magnet...now with all these tyes of fields it concevabule to think that there could be one that we haven't found yet that could affect space as well?)<P>1.b: IF we cant find a field to effect space then well just have to make a space bubble with a small singlaraty(AND I'M NOT EXPLANING SIMGULARITYS :'/ we dont have all year)<P>2: Now that we have are space bubble what can we do with it other than party tricks? well one thing we can do is firing thacyons from engins inside the bubble and accelerate the bubble to FTL (faster than light) speeds Although i havent a clue as to what will happen to the bubble the ppl inside or the genral universe be noramly all that should happen is that you travel a distance much further than what you where normaly supposed to go.<P>3x: now i'm getting a bit tired :') so i'll finish with a few other suggestions on how to travel much forther in less time....wormholes using thacyons or singularies.........protals ranging from interdimectional to ones that use the space/time continum....Or just simply just think up some werid form of travel and have it to complex for a bunch of apes to understand :')<P>Wow that was long and i was only getting started :'D but cence most of you don't want to read a book ill keep it sort here...p.s. CdC if you need any help with any other tech just say so and ill try to help...p.p.s next time it wouen't be so long :'/ errr well i hope anyhow.
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Postby Dewrf on Fri Aug 31, 2001 5:33 am

Na not smart just think a lot...<P>After reading that again in the light of day i'm seeing a lot of spelling mistakes and genral grammer problems but just ignore them and in true internet fasion try to make out what i'm try to say k :'D<P>Hmmmm If anyone knows anything thats wrong with this other than its exsitance plz post and ill try to work around it :') or come up with new theries using any corected data but for my knowlage everything seams ok.<P>P.s. Whoot only 3 MORE DAYS AND COUNTING.....<P>Hmm i wonder how pars going to get out of this alive or in one peace :') or should i include bane in that as well.
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Postby Michelle on Fri Aug 31, 2001 8:25 am

Just don't explain it! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">
I mean, how often do people <I>really</I> discuss the sciency stuff that makes their microwave work? Let alone effective methods of intergalactic communication, right? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>------------------
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Postby Jasonli on Fri Aug 31, 2001 10:02 am

CDC, I've only skimmed the responses, but I think the consensus is that whoever emailed you has been a little pedantic and there are MANY semi-sound theories on how to do this war thing from physics theories to date definitions. However, it does not pertain to the comic in that, you ain't gonna fit any of this information onto the comic... though there is a slight possibility you could come up with somehting completely new and could implement jokes about it within LOF.<P>*yawn* 2am...<P>SPAM: <A HREF="http://paco.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>http://paco.keenspace.com</A>
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Postby Michelle on Sat Sep 01, 2001 9:18 am

Hey! Tomorrow's the big day, new LoF strip! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"> I'd skip school on that day in acknowledgement, but it's Labor Day so I don't have to go anwyay. It's also the third aniversary of the day I won Final Fantasy VII. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"><P>------------------
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