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Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:19 pm
by McDuffies
Interesting topic.
1. Seven Samurai
Fair enough. Each person probably has his own top 1, and there are hundreds of movies that most rightfully deserve the place. Seventh Samurai is definitely one of them, even though my top 1 is, as always, "Stalker" by Andrei Tarkovsky, for it's unique mix of solemnity, depth, attention to detail, mise-en-scene dynamics and generally visual stunningness.
2. Breathless
It's a very important and very good film, a milestone that spawned an entire new approach to filmmaking, probably an inspiration to every later lo-fi director.
3. Vertigo
Another well-deserved entry, probably the most psychologically complex film of Hithcock's. It's too bad that people often watch it as a simple thriller and neglect to thing a bit deeper about main character's real mothivations.
4. Citizen Kane
I never thought that this film was as good as it was important. It was certainly the first film that consciously featured mise-en-scene aestethics, and it was very difficult road to follow before invention of wide-screen formats, but I didn't actually enjoy it that much.
5. The Rules of The Game
Haven't seen. I haven't watched Renoir that much.
6. The Seventh Seal
It's a masterpiece undoubtly, for it's depth and for iconography it formed. Bergman surely made even better films than this, but this one formed iconography that is now a part of public consciousness.
7. 2001: A Space Odyssey
It's a very challenging film, but then, does that make a film bad? No, in fact, I think it makes it better, because watching it, and understanding it is a great challenge and I seriously think that you get out of that experience as a better person. Hell it's a film that starts with prehistoric monkey-man, furthers into space-age, and ends up with an impressionistic view of higher evolution states. Such wide panoramic view of humanity has never been presented before or after that.
And to those who always complain how they didn't understand the last part: it is very simple. Interpretation is not difficult, what is difficult is representing very abstract ideas with images, and that's what Kubrick was doing here.
8. Casablanca
While Casablanca is a good movie, I don't think that it's that good. The film is a sort of symbol for film noir, and film noir is a genre closely related to a part of USA's history (post-war time marked by distrust in government and generally disilussion with heroic ideal), so I think that Casablanca, like the whole genre, doesn't affect us non-American people that much, and perhaps doesn't stand that good on it's own - without the political context.
9. The 400 Blows
I never saw why this film was considered so great. I can name dozens of Truffault's films that are better and more striking. The very last scene was really the only part that moved me, though it does sublime the whole theme of the film.
10. La Strada
Well it's a great piece of film, though I always found it unpleasantly overly-dramatic. I think that Amarcord is far better.
11. M
Another great film that is neglected too often. Proof that really good films don't age.
12. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
Bunuel is one of my favourite directors, and this is probably his best film. Noone has ever represented dreams in art more accurately.
If I had to reccomend something to average viewer, it would probably be Bunuel's films. They're masterpieces, and unlike Tarkovsky's or Kieslowsky's works, they are very easy to watch, entertaining, and not neccesarily challenging.
13. The Godfather Part II
I don't like Godfather films. Glamourizing violence aside, I always found it irritating that they presented mafia as some kind of romantic, tragic heroes, while being very critical of others, like police or show business. While I know of all mafia-related difficulties of making the film, I think that they didn't have guts to go all the way, so they shouldn't have bothered at all.
14. Chinatown
Very good film, very subtly grotesque, which is the thing I like the most about Polanski. I don't think it's top 50 though.
15. The Great Dictator
Another great film, but I think that Chaplin's importance overgrows quality of any of his particular films, so these films are usually included to honor Chaplin more than anything else.
Also if I don't find Buster Keaton later on, I'm gonna be mad.
16. Raging Bull
I never liked Scorsese very much. I'll give that he's an excellent director, but most of his films exist in a macho universe, and I don't like macho bs very much. Though some will claim that because of psychological undercurrent, he is more like deconstructing macho bs, but I don't agree.
17. Schindler's List
That film is crap. All Spielberg's films are typical blockbuster lightheaded entertainment, and his "artsy" films are very well the same, only on different topic.
18. The Third Man
Ehh, it's a good film, I guess. Read 8.
19. The Wild Bunch
Well that's a good film. There are Peckinpah's films I like more, but Wild Bunch is definitely the most unrestrained orgy of stylish violence I've seen.
20. Network
I hate this film. Acting is really bad, too theatrical and overly dramatic. Story is biting much more than Paddy Chayevsky could chew, and there's an overall feeling that the film is made around one banal incident and then shoving ideas as afterthoughts to push the length to hour and a half. And it isn't predicting future of media, all those tendencies existed back in those days too.
21. The Searchers
Ford isn't my favourite because I never liked that romantic-conservative (also macho bs) mythology that he stuck by. I'll rather have High Noon in this place.
22. Bicycle Thieves
I haven't seen it. Many say it's too sentimental, so I probably wouldn't prefere it to Los Olividados.
23. The Empire Strikes Back
Now seriously. This is a kiddie movie. Good kiddie movie, but still a kiddie movie. It's only appreciated as much as it is because people who watched it as kids are grownups now, and are sentimental about their childhood.
24. Nosferatu
Man I should watch that soon.
25. Aguirre, the Wrath of God
Oh yeah, that's an excellent film, and not very well known, which lifts this list for several points in my eyes.
26. Throne of Blood
Another one I should watch.
27. Blue Velvet
Excellent film. Lynch was always a master in scaring me without ever showing anything scary. You know how in horror films you are scared all until you actually see the monster, which breaks your illusion because the monster is never as scary as you expected. Well Blue Velvet is a rare exception where monster is much more scary than you expected.
28. Brazil
Huraah! Brasil is wonderful film, unique visual experience; It's not just a bureaucratic, totalitarian world. It's the most lunatic bureaucratic, totalitarian world you've ever seen, and it's all thanks to Gilliam's directing skills.
29. Apocalypse Now
Also great, the ultimate anti-war film.
30. Pulp Fiction
I think that it well deserves to be on this list, after all it's one of the most influential films of the 90ies. But also it's the best meta-film I saw, in that it's a film about films, about film iconography and myths, and consequently about culture that spawned it.
31. Once Upon A Time In America
This is another well-deserved entry. An epic if there ever was one. You could watch the film as purely visual/sound experience, and it would never let you go for whole three hours.
32. The Road Warrior
I don't think that this is a great movie, or very influential for that matter.
33. Viridiana
Wonderful. Another great and deep Bunuel's film, probably a good conterpart to "Discrete charm", because if first one is the most dream-like, this one is the most political, and those were two sides of Bunuel's art.
34. The Battle of Algiers
I haven't seen this.
35. Psycho
Hitchcock made serious psychological films, and then he also made simpleminded fun films. I think that this one falls into the second category so I'd rather see Rear Window, Birds or Rope in this place. For instance, psychological background of this film is much more clear-cut and has no complexity of his other films. But I do appreciate how he plays around with viewer's expectations.
36. Metropolis
Great film.
37. Dawn of the Dead (1978)
I haven't seen it, actually.
38. Pierrot le fou
I haven't seen it. I've seen many other Godard's though, I like many of them. Weekend is by far the most striking.
39. Freaks
Um... brrr.
I don't think it would make top 50 purely cinematically, but the whole concept is so distressing and after all these decades, it's still one of the most shocking films ever made (shoulder to shoulder with The Kid Brother), which is quite the achievement.
40. Paths of Glory
I think that this is a very weak early Kubrick. That this is put in front of Clockwork Orange, Dr Strangelove or Lolita, is a shame.
41. Women In The Dune

42. Fires On The Plain
I haven't seen these. They're probably good.
43. Aliens
I don't see a logic in including this instead of original Alien. Not that I would include original Alien, but it was better.
44. Suspirira
I should see more Argento. Man, first several minutes of "Standhal's syndrome" are really powerful.
45. Ran
More Kurosawa.
46. Sweet Sweetback Badasssss Song
Another film that is more important than good. I don't think it's good at all, bad attempts at copying Godard with a very stereotypical story, but it's very influential film, still.
47. Le Samourai
There's too many huge directors I am not very much acquitanced with.
48. There Will Be Blood
Haven't seen.
49. Ed Wood
Now really... it's a wonderful film, but does anyone really think it's that good?
50. Assault On Precinct 13 (1976)
It's not that good thing... but perhaps it should be included because it's a sort of ultimate "style over content" movie, a film that is good despite having almost no content.

All in all it's not a bad list. There's no way to make such a list properly, and if I made one, I'd probably throw it away the next day. It's not bad and doesn't have many of those populistic choices that you'd expect from such lists, like Evil Dead or Rocky Horror or whatever film was showing in theatres last week. Still, it's a miss that there's no Tarkoksky, Woody Allen, Kierslowsky, Wajda, Forman, Jarmush...

300 may be historically accurate and all, but it's one od damn ugliest films I saw. The sheer ugliness and fakeness of cinematography makes me never want to spend hour and a half looking at it.
Ghost World is a good movie. As far as unconformism and alienation go, I've seen films that spoke better to, me, but it's good. Spirited Away is wonderful film, I guess it's be a matter of personal preference whether to include it before some of many other wonderful animated films.

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:37 pm
by Mr.Bob
I was secretly waiting for mcDuffies to come in on this. :D

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:05 am
by McDuffies
Oh you were?

I have, like, 25% miss rate.

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:17 am
by CaptainClaude
I enjoyed those comments thoroughly

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:51 am
by Yeahduff
Always a good perspective, even when I disagree with him.

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:06 am
by McDuffies
Then shoot back.

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:09 am
by Yeahduff
I'm not sure I feel compelled to take on a sweeping cultural argument right now. I'll just say it's hard to argue with the things you praised, though I think you dismiss some things too quickly.

At the root of this is why I'm anti-list-making in general.

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:13 am
by Killbert-Robby
I did *love* Stalker though

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:28 pm
by McDuffies
Yeahduff wrote:I'm not sure I feel compelled to take on a sweeping cultural argument right now.
It's still a better topic than, say, whether bad artists are riuning webcomics or not.
Yeahduff wrote:I'll just say it's hard to argue with the things you praised, though I think you dismiss some things too quickly.

At the root of this is why I'm anti-list-making in general.
I admit that I am subjective. Many things that are held for masterpieces just don't reach me. Orson Welles usually doesn't have any effect on me. Many of Hitchcock's acclaimed films are to me just commercial fares made to finance his better but more difficult films. Ford and Hawkes may be great directors, but it's difficult for me to get over what I think is a very naive and backward moral code. Scorsese makes very powerful films, but his point of view is uncomfortably machistic and often too pretentious.
I like Herzog and Venders but don't get Fazbinder. I like Truffault and Godard but don't like Chabrol. I worship Bunuel but can't stand modern Spanish cinema. I like Felini's films, but ultimately think that Bunuel does the similar thing much better.
Sometimes I like minor films of great directors. Rosemary's Baby and Chinatown are nice films, but Knife In The Water, Fearless Vampire Killers and Repultion are far superior. I like Altman, but hate M.A.S.H. I will respect largely unknown films like Late Night Shopping as much as any acclaimed masterpiece. It may have to do with the moment in life when I watched them, but I don't care much.
I am very selective, even when it comes to classics. I don't like when people like everything that's considered classic, because that's just another kind of populist taste. However, for most of classics, I have some sort of respect.

Anyways, related to Ghost World - I really loved Crumb. It must be one of the best documentaries I've seen. Conversations with Crumbs brothers made me shiver, it was a direct sneak peek into a psychotic's head.
Killbert-Robby wrote:I did *love* Stalker though
Who are you and what did you do with Kilbert-Robby?

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:25 pm
by Killbert-Robby
I *am* Robby. I loved Roadside Picnic, and I loved Stalker. I just think R.P. is an extremely well written story, and Stalker is an outstanding piece of film.

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:53 pm
by McDuffies
That's cool.

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:47 am
by Yeahduff
McDuffies wrote:
Yeahduff wrote:I'm not sure I feel compelled to take on a sweeping cultural argument right now.
It's still a better topic than, say, whether bad artists are riuning webcomics or not.
No way, that was serious business.
McDuffies wrote:
Yeahduff wrote:I'll just say it's hard to argue with the things you praised, though I think you dismiss some things too quickly.

At the root of this is why I'm anti-list-making in general.
I admit that I am subjective. Many things that are held for masterpieces just don't reach me. Orson Welles usually doesn't have any effect on me. Many of Hitchcock's acclaimed films are to me just commercial fares made to finance his better but more difficult films. Ford and Hawkes may be great directors, but it's difficult for me to get over what I think is a very naive and backward moral code. Scorsese makes very powerful films, but his point of view is uncomfortably machistic and often too pretentious.
I like Herzog and Venders but don't get Fazbinder. I like Truffault and Godard but don't like Chabrol. I worship Bunuel but can't stand modern Spanish cinema. I like Felini's films, but ultimately think that Bunuel does the similar thing much better.
Sometimes I like minor films of great directors. Rosemary's Baby and Chinatown are nice films, but Knife In The Water, Fearless Vampire Killers and Repultion are far superior. I like Altman, but hate M.A.S.H. I will respect largely unknown films like Late Night Shopping as much as any acclaimed masterpiece. It may have to do with the moment in life when I watched them, but I don't care much.
I am very selective, even when it comes to classics. I don't like when people like everything that's considered classic, because that's just another kind of populist taste. However, for most of classics, I have some sort of respect.
That's cool. I don't feel like anyone has to worship the canon or anything (though it's suspect if they can't find anything to like in it). And obviously we're not gonna agree on every film, as it should be.

And to clarify, I wasn't trying to be backhanded before, just saying whether you're right or not, your opinion is worthy of respect.
McDuffies wrote: Anyways, related to Ghost World - I really loved Crumb. It must be one of the best documentaries I've seen. Conversations with Crumbs brothers made me shiver, it was a direct sneak peek into a psychotic's head.
Yeah, it's very good. You think Robert's got problems, then you see the picture expand around him and see just how well he's doing, and how bad he could've been.

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:00 am
by TheSuburbanLetdown
Crumb is a great film.
Yeahduff wrote:
McDuffies wrote:
Yeahduff wrote:I'm not sure I feel compelled to take on a sweeping cultural argument right now.
It's still a better topic than, say, whether bad artists are riuning webcomics or not.
No way, that was serious business.
Indeed. Why have an actual conversation when we can have cheap lulz?

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:16 am
by McDuffies
So now I made my own list of 50 best movies ever. Luckily I'm sometimes cataloguing films I want to watch/have watched, so making the list was simply chopping it to 50 entries and arranging them in certain order. Which was difficult enough, at the end when all that was left were bona fide masterpieces, cutting out another film was like cutting out a piece of my heart (well, hyperbolically). My plan was to make a list that would be multicultural, honoring many classic masters, film movements etc - but as soon as I realised just how little 50 is, I had to reject that idea and limit it to a very personal choice, dropping Abas Kiarostami, Satyajit Ray, Wong Kar Wai, Istvan Szabo, Nicholas Ray, Jerry Lewis (shut up), Jiri Menzel, John Huston and many others.
Therefore this is a very subjective list. Several reasons for it's subjectiveness are:
1. I prefere original and unique films, which resulted in more entries the likes of "Conspirators of pleasure", and less entries the likes of "Sunset boulevard".
2. A lot of films included played a very important part in my development as a film fan, so they might have earned their place on the list simply for being seen by me at the right time.
3. Being sucker for animation, I tried to include a lot of animated films, but finally only a few were left it, perhaps symbolically representing the kind of animation that I like more than being representative. Sadly things like "Incredibles", "Triplets of Bellevile", "Ichabod and mister Toad", "Yellow Submarine", "Heavy metal", "Heavy traffic" - had to be cut out.
Finally, here's the list:
4. I think that there are a lot more relatively new films than some would have. This is, of course, because I enjoy searching for potential classics in new production more than watching films that have been regarded classics for a long time. But was also reclutant to include recent films that haven't stood the test of time. For all those reasons I think that there is a disproportionate number of films from 90ies.

But ultimately I think that every top 50 list is subjective, and mine must be as good as any other. Therefore, enjoy:
1. Stalker - Andrei Tarkovsky
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey - Stanley Kubrick
3. Dead Man - Jim Jarmusch
4. Le Charme discret de la bourgeoisie - Luis Bunuel
5. The Graduate - Mike Nichols
6. Hair - Milos Forman
7. Rashomon - Akira Kurosawa
8. Solyaris aka Solaris - Andrei Tarkovsky
9. A Clockwork Orange - Stanley Kubrick
10. Once Upon a Time in America - Sergio Leone
11. Crimes and Misdemeanors - Woody Allen
12. Double life of Veronica - Krzysztof Kieslowski
13. Mulholland Drive - David Lynch
14. Le Fabuleux destin d'Amelie Poulain or The City of Lost Children (take your pick) - Jean Jeunet
15. Fahrenheit 451 - Francois Truffaut
16. Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
17. Pulp Fiction - Quentin Tarantino
18. Night on Earth - Jim Jarmusch
19. SABIRNI CENTAR - Goran Markovic
20. Nostalghia - Andrei Tarkovsky
21. Mies vailla menneisyytta aka The Man Without a Past - Aki Kaurismäki
22. Il Decameron - Pier Paolo Pasolini
23. Dogma - Kevin Smith
24. WR: Misterije Organizma - Dusan Makavejev
25. Carrie - Brian De Palma
26. La Nuit Americaine aka Day for Night - Francois Truffaut
27. Three Colors: White - Krzysztof Kieslowski
28. Der Himmel Uber Berlin aka Wings of Desire - Wim Wenders
29. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - Terry Gilliam
30. Dogville - Lars von Trier
31. Mediterraneo - Gabriele Salvatores
32. Week End - Jean-Luc Godard
33. The Birds - Alfred Hitchcock
34. Arizona Dream - Emir Kusturica
35. Amarcord - Federico Fellini
36. Smoke - Wong Kar Wai
37. Fury - Fritz Lang
38. Jungfrukallan aka The Virgin Spring - Ingmar Bergman
39. Jerry Maguire - Cameron Crowe
40. Eraserhead - David Lynch
41. Rescuers - Disney
42. Pleasantville - Gary Ross
43. Belle de jour - Luis Bunuel
44. Monsoon Wedding - Mira Nair
45. Spiklenci slasti aka Conspirators of Pleasure - Jan Svankmajer
46. Late Night Shopping - Saul Metzstein
47. La Reine Margot aka Queen Margot - Patrice Chereau
48. The Fearless Vampire Killers aka Vampire Ball - Roman Polanski
49. Monty Python's - Life of Brian
50. Das Kabinett des Doktor Caligari aka The Cabinet of Dr.Caligari - Robert Wiene
As a special bonus, I singled out the top 1 worst film:
Kafka - Steven Soderbergh
My next post will contain elaborate on each film, being that there is at least a few people who will be interested to read it.

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:22 am
by TheSuburbanLetdown
I remember watching "Das Kabinett des Doktor Caligari" in an art class. I don't remember too much about it though.

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:44 am
by CaptainClaude
th one in there that stood out and surprised me was dogma.

I like that cabinet of caligari is on there.

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:31 pm
by Killbert-Robby
I could watch Dogma over and over and over

Re: 50 Greatest Movies of All Time...

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:12 pm
by McDuffies
Haha. Done.
1. Stalker - Andrei Tarkovsky
It's not only a deep and solemn film that talks about human nature, desires, weaknesses and desperate need for a guide (such as religion is), but also a visually wonderful film, an SF with purposefully no special effects. IT's directed at a very slow pace, there's almost never a fast movement in it, but there is a peculiar dinamism achieved by fast exchanges between the first and second plane.
As my old tutor in film club would say, "Compared to it, 2001 is a child's game".
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey - Stanley Kubrick
2001 is a very special film in many ways: the scope of human history represented, the visual spectacle, the drama in which we actually feel for the killer-computer more than for human characters, the complexity of ideas - like I said somewhere in this thread, many will try to explain the last scenes in the film, while the intention of the scene is to represent something ultimately non-verbal, so one can simply sit and plunge into images, instead of trying to explain them.
But I think another important thing is what film represents: a sort of rite passage into world of serious films, a cultural milestone, something that one has to experience at least once in his life.
3. Dead Man - Jim Jarmusch
One of criteriums for aranging films on the list was how complex themes of the film were. Dead Man is so close to the top is because it's another one of those non-verbal films whose theme you have to feel, but not explain. Plus, silent black/white scenes in which Johnny Depp dies while floating down the river, while Neil Young's guitar cries and mourns in the background - must be one of the strongest film experience.
4. Le Charme discret de la bourgeoisie - Luis Bunuel
Many of the best directors tried obsessively to transfer dreams to film, but Bunuel was probably the most accurate. "Discrete charm" - it's as if he's placed a camera inside your dream, recording stories that follow that strange logic of dreams where scenes just melt into each other and where your daily fears come into plain sight.
5. The Graduate - Mike Nichols
I think of "The Graduate" as the best film about topics of rebelion and non-comformism. While "One flew over Cookoo's nest" might appeal to political rebels and "Easy rider" might appear to naively romantic, "The Graduate" is a film for all of us, average men, non-conformism inside the middle class. It's a film that helped me figure some things out back when I was 20-21 and had some similar problems as the main character (regarding decisions about your future, not regaring dating the older women).
It's also a wall-to-wall perfection of film language. Mike Nichols spent entire life trying to repeat such perfection, never coming even close (though "Wolf" was a fair try).
6. Hair - Milos Forman
Generally I don't like musicals, but this is one example where, I think, music is the integral part of the film and actually good. Changing the point of the original play (which was a pure hirry romp), it's an ironic look at 60ies from the viewpoint of 70ies. One thing that play didn't have was the tragic twist at the end of the film, set to performance of "Let the sunshine in", the tension during the prolongued intro to the film, the abrupt tragedy after the film full of celebration of life - to me it's the strongest anti-war message.
To me, Forman is the director with the highest rate of success - I've seen almost all of his films, and there's just one that isn't excellent.
7. Rashomon - Akira Kurosawa
It may be a bit prosaic choice of Kurosawa's film, but the theme about relativity of experience is something that's very close to me, personally.
8. Solyaris aka Solaris - Andrei Tarkovsky
Not much that I care to say except that it's another great SF film by Tarkowsky, again talking about topics of human imperfection, though in much more general terms than Stalker. Strangely though it's full of special effects, it's less visually striking than Stalker, and the most impressive scenes are the ones on earth - specially the last one, which many people miss because at that point they think the film is finished - kind of sad because that final scene changes the whole perception of the film.
9. A Clockwork Orange - Stanley Kubrick
It was really sad that I had to cut out "Dr.Strangelove" and "Lolita", but choosing between these tree, I picked "Clockwork orange" because it's topic of human rights and dignity is much larger than those two. It's probably a prime example of violence and sex being neccesary part of the film: If Alex was and less violent and heartless, if there was a little chance of a (normal) viewer identifying with him, the point of the film would would be entirely different.
10. Once Upon a Time in America - Sergio Leone
As far as the epic films go, this is the end and the beginning for me. I don't care much for American western films, or for historical blockbusters the likes of "Ben Hur", or for much of the things that have "epic" tacked onto them. But Leone's epics are the different thing: it's the way he twists reality; when two cowboys have a shotdown, the distance between them seems miles long; his characters are really larger than life, and his tragic scenes seem to last forever, but never too long.
11. Crimes and Misdemeanors - Woody Allen
Choosing one Woody Allen's film as best was difficult because his films are so closely-knitted into one life work, but I think that Crimes and Misdemeanors was one of the most complex, examination of ideas of justice, and his darkest film - not as consciously dramatic as "Another woman" or "Interiors", but using comedy to accentuate dark themes and pessimistic outlook.
12. Double life of Veronica - Krzysztof Kieslowski
It's a very strange film, more poetic and less narrative, and definitely takes repeated watching just to figure out what the plot is. Usually it's described as a film about two women that have exactly the same lives apart from one decision... but it's not a film about how one decision can change your life, that element is pretty much marginal. The film is, well, about feeling that you're not alone and that there are invisible connections among people, so in this film you have two women, one Polish, the other French, somehow connected, feeling each other's presence, happiness and suffer, but not knowing consciously that the other one exists. Rather poetic idea.
Incidentally the film has some of the prettiest erotic scenes even filmed.
13. Mulholland Drive - David Lynch
I always appreciate Lynch for being as unique as he is, even though I can't stand a lot of his films ("Wild at heart", "Fire walk with me"...) Of course he has other great films, but to me Mullholland Drive is the best, one that he managed to make into a wonderful puzzle that you have to solve on your own (it's just not the same if you read it on internet) but also an alegory about fame, ambicion, Hollywood, how we, ordinary people see it, as oposed to how it really is... It is telling that for a long time, I wasn't aware that film lasts 2+ hours.
Lynch has always been a master of horror to me, making you fear even when he's not actually showing anything scary. Last few minutes of this film must be the scariest piece of film that I've ever seen. I tried a little test: replaying the ending of the film at various times. Each time I would invariably feel shivers down my spine.
14. Le Fabuleux destin d'Amelie Poulain or The City of Lost Children (take your pick) - Jean Jeunet
I somehow find these two films inseparable, or interchangeable. They're both products of the same poetics, but one is bizzare, dark and confusing, while the other is bright and life-affirming. So I could never decide which film was actually better, and it depended largely on my current mood: I see them as two sides of a coin.
I think that Jeunet is the greatest director currently, as far as striking imagery, fantasy and quirky film language goes (in my opinion, topping the likes of Tim Burton or brothers Coen). As shown in Amelie, he is also caparle of making underlying subtext and firm psychological basis. I am a bit concerned though, about where his career will go in future (like any dreamer, he's very unreliable).
15. Fahrenheit 451 - Francois Truffaut
Sadly neglected Truffault's film, it's a perfection in film language, with many of those iconic scenes of book-burining. It is luckily nothing like the book - the book is yet another Orwellian story like hundreds of others. But the film is about something larger: the story in the film is intercut with multiple shots of books burning, we see printed pages in close cut and can reckognize many famous paragraphs; in a way, it's a selection of literature through human history, all of them in flames. The film becomes the story about importance of written word in human society.
16. Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
I can never see this film as anything else but unappreciated masterpiece. I don't think that the film was made to create a lot of laughs, I don't think that at that point, making hillarity was very important to Pythons. I remember watching a film with a lot of frends in dorm, and I was surprised at how various people were offended by different parts of the film. While I could barely stand Mr Creosote's scene, other people laughed all through it, but were completely grossed out by liver donor scene, which to me isn't too bad - and other people yet were appauled by sex education class, etc. Somehow, it was interesting to realise how a simple thing as shock can be so relative.
17. Pulp Fiction - Quentin Tarantino
I think of it as a defining film of 90ies. I relate it to the work of the band Ween, in that it marks a point where culture folds and starts consciously rewriting itself. It's like if the world realised that there is no more new ideas and that we must start rewriting new ones with cynical twist, trying to look at ourselves through what we create and enjoy.
But apart from being a sort of sociological milestone, it's a wonderful film, epic panorama of gangster genre, and has some very impressive film language.
18. Night on Earth - Jim Jarmusch

Each of these five stories is wonderful in it's way (though others will often be eclipsed by Benigni's bravure) and each story tells about the city it's happening in, by facing two opposities that exist in the same place. But as a whole, the film is about how life never stops and how it's everywhere: people live and meet each other at any time of the day, in any place on the earth.
19. Sabirni centar - Goran Markovic
Goran Markovic is my favourite Serbian director, and this black comedy translates as "Concentration camp". It's one film that I can never watch without crying (yes I admit) at least once.
In the film, one old professor dies and goes to the other world, where he meets his old, deceased friends and his wife who died young and is consequently still young while he's old. However, he turns out to be not quite dead, so he suddenly returns back on this world. However, while dead he found out many horrible secrets of his friends who are still alive and now sees them with a different eyes, realising how much of his life has been a lie.
But that's only scraping the surface of the film, it's one wonderful and very emotional alegory.
20. Nostalghia - Andrei Tarkovsky
Basically it's a film about home and immigration, about whether it's possible to live far from your roots - It's showing Tarkovsky's hope, after he's immigrated from Russia, that he can still function in the place that he doesn't consider home. What I appreciate the most about this film is how it's whole visual style builds up to one final scene which represents the whole point of the film. And one thing about Tarkovsky's art in general, in every film he'd employ a different visual style, the one that would actually be a metaphore of the theme of the film: this film is all in long, horizontal, panoramic camera movements, which represent the theme of immigration and displacement.
And that actually brings me to why I think that Tarkovsky is the greatest director of all: because of how conscious and analytic his filmmaking was; his cinematic language was the most closely knitted to the film topic. To him, cinematic language was never just a mean to tell the story, but would always build up to the story to create something larger.
21. Mies vailla menneisyytta aka The Man Without a Past - Aki Kaurismäki
Kaurismaki has in recent years been one of my favourite directors; he makes low budget stories about ordinary people, and I think that his obsessive theme was finding human goodness in the most rough conditions. As far as that theme goes, this is probably the most succesful of his films. Though it was very difficult to choose between this and other films such as "Take care of your scarf, Tatiana" or "Ariel".
22. Il Decameron - Pier Paolo Pasolini
You'll either hate or adore Passolini's films: he has probably the most uncompromizing realism as far as medieval films go, dirty streets smeared with mud and excrement, stupid and scheming people and comedy and tragedy appearing together. Decameron is probably his most even, and actually most watchable films (I wouldn't reccomend "Cantenbury tales" or "1001 nights" - not to mention "Salo" - to just about anyone. It's also said to be the best film version of Decameron.
23. Dogma - Kevin Smith
"Dogma" is, for me, the best film with religious themes. While I'm not that much religious, I am very spiritual, and finding a right balance between my religious upbringing and my common sence was very important to me. And this film helped me a lot in that matter, presenting a modern, reasonable and convincing interpretation of Christianity (of course, I didn't literally accept ideas from this film, it just helped me steer into right direction in thinking).
It's a very complex film, I've seen numerous discussions just about what Alanis Morisetter's casting symbolizes. It's hard to believe that the same person would direct such simple-minded films as, say, "Jersey girl". It's also magnificent film language, scenes in front of the cathedral are some of the most impressing ever. When I saw the film for the first time, I literally walked out of the cinema with my knees shaking.
24. WR: Misterije Organizma - Dusan Makavejev
Or in other words, "Wilhelm Reich: Mysteries of organism". Makavejev is probably the most acclaimed Sebian director. His film "Ljubavni slucaj ili tragedija sluzbenice PTTA" contains that iconic scene of a nude woman lying on the couch face down, with a black cat sitting on her butt; Makavejev based his style on subverting Eisenstein's montage ideas, by intercutting images to produce parodic, silly, or just absurd effect.
WR might not be his best film, but it is certainly the most outrageous. It plays along as a documentary about controversial scientist Wilhelm Reich, but actually faces his ideas with Yugoslavian brand of communism, mocking Reich, communism and capitalism, all at the same time. Film was censored in many countries, and even banned as 'pornographic' in England. Possibly because of the scene of a man having a cast of his erected penis made.
Basically, the film is so outrageous and violently funny that, as I sometimes say: it's not just a film - it's experience.
25. Hi, mom - Brian De Palma
De Palma is now a generic hollywood director, but once, he was stylish and subversive. I had to choose between this film and "Carry", which I'm very fold of because of about 10 minutes of pure horror that always gets me... Well I've chosen this one simply because it's quirky, unique, because it demonstrates Palma's brand of experimental film language, and because it tells a story of a man who goes to great lengths just to appear once on tv.
26. La Nuit Americaine aka Day for Night - Francois Truffaut
A film about making of the film - when I was attending the film club, our moderator showed this film to us because he thought it would teach us everything about realistic conditions of filmmaking in just three hours. He was right. But it's also a beautiful and very poetic film.
27. Three Colors: White - Krzysztof Kieslowski
I think of Kieslowsky as the greatest poet of all film directors. In his films, people will sometimes just take a moment to sit down, for no reason. A medics car with rotating lights will pass in the background, also for no reason and in no relation to the story. Things will happen just because they somehow feel right.
But he also has tightly knitted plots with psychological background. In this film, a Polak marries a French woman and moves to France. Being a Polak, he yarns for his homeland so much that he becomes impotent - and being a French, she can't be with an impotent man no matter how much she loves him. In every frame of this film, while colour dominates (just like in "Blue..." and "Red..." their corresponding colours dominate). When he arrives back to Poland, smuggled in a big suitcase, it is snowing. First thing back in Poland, he gets beaten up, but he's still happy... well in short, this film has so much beauty in it that it's futile to try to describe it.
28. Der Himmel Uber Berlin aka Wings of Desire - Wim Wenders
It's an essay-film. Lengthy essays are spoken by main characters on background of beautifully shot Berlin and main characters-angels floating above it. I think that of all the films named here, it is the most slow-paced and the most challenging.
Oh, it also has a lot of Nick Cave music.
29. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - Terry Gilliam
When I saw the film, I thought that it was either the best or the worst film I ever saw. I found that many people have the same initial reaction. Like "WR: mysteries of organism", I think of it as not just a film, but an experience - see it because you'll never see anything like it again. On one hand, it's wall-to-wall halucinatory imagery, no modern special effects, all done in old-fashioned way, with simple camera, some lenses and costumes - and in that respect it's a celebration of cinematic language, showing that it can be much more effective than any CG animation available. On other hand, I think that it does the same ironic look at the original novel (and culture that spawned it) as Forman's "Hair" does to the play it's based on. Some of the most impressive things about hilms: we look at two main characters sympathetically all through the film - as two rascals laughing in the face of conformism; but in the near-horror scene with Ellen Barkin, we see them in a completely different light, from which point we can't sympathize anymore, they're just violent washouts for us; people full of big talk about important assignments and conspiracies - but it's all just a drug-induced paranoia.
I always thought that Serbial translation "Paranoia in Las Vegas" was very appropriate.
30. Dogville - Lars von Trier
When you're in your mid-twenties, you rarely see a film that totally changes your outlook at something. Dogville did this for me. People often see it as a moralizing, critical piece about America, but I think that the film deals with much larger things than that: about people in general, about how they deal with their moral views, how they see themselves and others, and actually how much can people really be accounted for their own actions. The film is filmed as a sort of stage play, with chalk-scenography, some props and sound effects. I think that this approach effectively lifts it from the level of actual, real and brings it to the level of symbolic. Therefore film talks about symbolic, general, and cannot be just a film about America.
One of the most important scenes to me is Paul Bethany's character's change: the entire film he's going against his village, being an uncomformist. This has put him in confusion: he can feel that the views of his family and frinds are wrong, but he cannot admit it to himself. The solution is to conform, and to subconsciously convince himself that to conform is right; psychology at work: he'd rather convince himself that he was wrong all along, than take the pressure from his society and live with the moral conflict.
31. Mediterraneo - Gabriele Salvatores
Holds a record of the film I watched the most times, probably. It's very watchable and very funny comedy, but it's also a film about differences between temperaments of west and east, of life approaches. Symbolic of the whole film is the scene where Greek native explains that greek coffee is drunk slow, without rush, while Italian expects his coffy quick, strong and right away, like espresso.
32. Week End - Jean-Luc Godard
My favourite Godard film. In a lot of places, it works like a political essay, but basically it's a bizzare, slightly SF story, a road movie happening in a society where people spend all their rage and frustration in cars on roads, massively crashing to each other, shooting at each other, etc. Film is said to have one of the largest set pieces to date, a large scenery of a rush hour, with random crash victims laying arong.
33. The Birds - Alfred Hitchcock
Birds, apart from being very scary, is a metaphore about vengenceful nature. This was a popular topic, many SF films incuding "King kong" and "Godzilla" were based on it, but none more effective and subtle than "Birds". The most striking thing about the film is it's mysterious nature, that no explanation is ever given, that there is no resolution, and that the film as a whole never needs explanation or resolution to work. I think that the ending such as it is, leaves you terrified long after the film is over.
34. Arizona Dream - Emir Kusturica
Kusturica made about five good films, and then became the worst and most tasteless thing that ever happened to Serbian film. But while he was still at it, he made one American film, apparently influenced by Jarmush, in which Johny Depp flees between two women, mother and daughter, and for the most of the film has a big celebration with two of them, in a big house and lasting for several days. The story is very disorienting, messy, during those two days people make love, fight, threaten each others with knives, try to fly or to commit suicide, and though I watched it several times I can't remember most of the plot. Yes, it's a mess, but it's a beautiful, meaningful mess; It's the best mess I've ever seen (after "Fear and Loathing", of course).
But if there was nothing but the first sequence of the film, in which an Eskimo falls through the cracking ice and is saved by his dogs - the film would be worth it.
35. Amarcord - Federico Fellini
Panoramic film about growing up, telling numerous anecdotes from a young man's life, regarding him, but mostly people who surround him. Beautiful, poetic, and incredibly funny. It's a film built out of nothing but nostalgy, and makes me nostalgic for things I've never seen before.
36. Smoke - Wong Kar Wai
A sort of epitome of American independent scene. I mean, it's very cheap, but excellently written (by no other than Paul Auster), so it's a kind of film where you put the camera in the corner, let it roll, and leave actors to tell their lines in whichever rhythm they feel - and it works. It could have been Clerks or any other dialogue-based independent film, but I think that this is the best one because the number of characters you meet and feel for is much larger than the number of people you actually see on screen: a film that exists through tales as much as through real events. The very last sequence is the one in which Harvey Keitel tells something that happened to him, and the whole time camera only shows Keitel, which we never notice because of the strength of his storytelling.
37. M - Fritz Lang
I don't know... the film can look simple today, and the final speech where the killer relativizes his crime is repeated multiple times later (on top of my head in Chaplin's "Mister Verdoux")... but the film is carried out on strength of one metaphorical image: a letter M printed in chalk on killer's coat; without his knowledge or will, he's marked, different, unable to live among ordinary people.
38. Jungfrukallan aka The Virgin Spring - Ingmar Bergman
Again, a bit arbitrary choice of Bergman's films, I probaby chose it because it's so often overshadowed by other Bergman's works (and was filmed back to back with "7th seal"). But it's so simple, and yet so brutal and striking.
39. Jerry Maguire - Cameron Crowe
Well Cameron Crowe is a wonderful director of ordinary things (even though Vanila Sky was awful) and his attention to detail is impressive. This is a film ruled by ordinary events and little details that make life. It's the only film where I see a character hitting a chandelier with his head - it's something that always happens to me, but film characters are above such ordinary events - unless they're important fro the plot, or done for slapstick.
40. Eraserhead - David Lynch
Well... one of it's kind, endemic piece of film. Completely irrational but also boldly looking straight at one's deepest subconscious fears. What specially impresses me is the world Lynch has built in this film, the whole little world that functions on it's own.
41. Rescuers - Disney
I had to choose something from Disney's catalogue because despite all apparent flaws and despite the disastrous influence Disney's brand of soppiness has had on animated film industry, Disney's production up to late 80ies has always been an epitome of good animation and film magic in general to me. "Rescuers" is one of my instant favourites, distinctive from other Disney's films in it's modern sensibilities: it was the first project started after Disney's death, a big trial for the studio but also an attempt to move toward more modern approach. Successful, I always liked the way it mimicked popular films of the time - miss Bianca was not far from Audrey Hapburn in "Charade" - and in general, it was all marked with grace, style and beauty.
42. Pleasantville - Gary Ross
The film had a very simple idea of using black and white/colour contrast as a metaphore for conservativism/forward looking. What is wonderful is that this premise gave filmmakers oportunity to impress us with constelations of bw/colour all through the film. Always, they would find a new way to use this idea, and to make us go "wow" once again.
43. Belle de jour - Luis Bunuel
One thing I love about this film is that it's often filed as erotic drama. Of course you'll never see more than Catherine Deneuve's bare back, but that was Bunuel, and today's filmmakers could take a lesson that you don't have to show a dozen of naked bodies piled one on other, to make a film about erotic topic.
What really makes this film "erotic" is that it's a film about erotic fantasies. Main character is a higher middle class woman who secretly works as a prostitute in order to satisfy her perverted sexual fantasies. Just like in "Descrete charm" Bunuel faithfull represented dreams, so he here represented fantasies that people are most often ashamed to admit. The most powerful thing about the film is how it makes a full circle, blurring the difference between reality and fantasy but also bringing new levels into psychology of the main character.
44. Monsoon Wedding - Mira Nair
At core a multicultural film. In style it's a mix between Hollywood and Bollywood, and the topic is suiting: a clash of cultures: modern, western way of life and traditional Indian values. But what is most impressive is that the film shows unusual ways how these two ways of life found a balance and actually function as something completely new.
45. Spiklenci slasti aka Conspirators of Pleasure - Jan Svankmajer
It's part live-action part-animated film. I can't exactly tell what the film is about, I could only say that it's another film about weird sexual fantasies, but it wouldn't nearly describe this wonderfully weird movie. Svankmajer is an influential animator, has made his versions of Alice in Wonderland and Faust, all uniquely bizzare... I prefere this film, perhaps because half of the film you're wathing amused, not knowing what's actually going on... partly because it's the most weird, unrestrained of his films.
46. Late Night Shopping - Saul Metzstein
It's a comedy about modern urban neurosis - what can I say? People living dead-end lives, trying to figure out what it is that they should do and how to fill their lives with some kind of meaning. Basically people stumbling around in the dark. It has some of the most impressive camerawork and wonderful use of soundtrack.
47. La Reine Margot aka Queen Margot - Patrice Chereau
Ultimately brutal representation of Bartholomeian night and it's consequences, wonderful and rich film. The massacre was shown near the beginning of the film and at that moment you think that they've shot their most impressive material too soon, but what happens later disaprooves that - the emotional pain that is much stronger than the physical, and personal tragedy that is somehow more tragic than the historical tragedy.
48. The Fearless Vampire Killers aka Vampire Ball - Roman Polanski
A film that is so grotesque that it almost looks like an animated movie. It's not a horror - scarier than vampires were the scenes of climbing on the castle walls, over the ambis... it's the grotesque that I like the most, the peculiar style of black humor that I've seen only in eastern-European films.
49. Monty Python's - Life of Brian
Asides from being viciously funny, it's a very serious religious movie. It's insisted that the movie doesn't talk directly about religion, but it does talk about the mass mentality that leads to blind faith, about things in human nature that cause religious conflicts. Often, I've found this film so knowledgeable about human nature, that it's status as a human comedy only undermines it. Monty Python was a group of very erudite intelectuals, and they weren't making films just to make you laugh.
50. Das Kabinett des Doktor Caligari aka The Cabinet of Dr.Caligari - Robert Wiene
I think of it as a proof that silent films are still worth watching (believe it or not, I've met people who think the oposite). What is actually achieved in this film could never be achieved in a colour or sound movie. These are bizzare scenographies and nightmare-like world, and the fack that it's old, silent bw film, actually obscure just about enough for this world to start functioning. The film ends up to grotesque that it's, once again, like watching an animated film.
But the film is actually very important: dreamlike world wasn't made for kicks. It was the first film that actively tried to peak into human head, to represent drwams/fantasies/in general, a subjective view of reality.

the end.

As for why I choose "Kafka" as the worst movie? Well, it's not only pretentious and incompetently made, not only a shallow and stupid interpretation of great writer's work - it's also a black hole that sucks all the quality out of things that previously posessed it. It's something unhappy with it's own crappiness, that it will try to make everything around it equally crappy, to ruin not your childhood heroes, but everything you ever liked.