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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:44 pm
by Laemkral
To go along with what McDuffies is saying, there is both a poem and a saying that I think defines what I'm trying to get at.
Poem:
Martin Niemöller wrote:They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time no one was left to speak up.
Saying:
Rabbi Hillel wrote:If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:16 pm
by Jim North
The Neko wrote:YEAH! THE ENLIGHTENMENT TOTALLY CHANGED EVERYTHING OVERNIGHT. GOD, GUYS, WHY CAN'T WE DO IT, TOO?! LAZY FUCKS.
Meh.
*changes the channel*
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:28 pm
by McDuffies
Laemkral wrote:Saying:
Rabbi Hillel wrote:If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?
Hey, I knew that saying as quoted in some rock song. Only it was sloppily translated to our language so I never really figured what it means.
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:30 pm
by Tellurider
mcDuffies wrote:Laemkral wrote:Saying:
Rabbi Hillel wrote:If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?
Hey, I knew that saying as quoted in some rock song. Only it was sloppily translated to our language so I never really figured what it means.
Best philosophy:
I wanna rock and roll all night, and party every day!
...at least, it's the best philosophy in fantasyland, which is where 99% of americans live.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:56 am
by Yeahduff
The Neko wrote:Jim North wrote:Man, guy, things don't change, not anymore. It's amazing to watch technology and popular culture keep barreling ahead like there's no tomorrow, but the social structure since the early 80's (possibly even back into the 70's or further) hasn't significantly altered in the US by any means. We've had our slight ups and downs, and there are a few groups who aren't quite as oppressed as they were a few decades ago, but overall it's mostly the same. The only difference is that our new technology and progressing popular culture are allowing us to see that unchanged crap more and more.
Looking back into US history, we get to hear about all these different social and economic upheavals that occurred during the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's . . . and we really haven't had any of that relatively recently. It's the same old shit with faster broadband capability.
Maybe we shouldn't have been called Generation X. Generation You're Getting The Status Quo Shoved Down Your Throat In A Grunge Rock Package Whether You Like It Or Not doesn't really roll off the tongue as well, but it'd probably be far more apt.
YEAH! THE ENLIGHTENMENT TOTALLY CHANGED EVERYTHING OVERNIGHT. GOD, GUYS, WHY CAN'T WE DO IT, TOO?! LAZY FUCKS.
IT'S BECAUSE OF PARIS HILTON AND EVERYTHING ELSE I DON'T LIKE ON TELEVISION.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:31 am
by Noise Monkey
Can we start a petition to have her put back in jail permanently?
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:05 am
by Yeahduff
She won't make for an effective scapegoat from behind bars.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:08 am
by Noise Monkey
but my brain would appreciate it so...
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:47 am
by Jim North
yeahduff wrote:She won't make for an effective scapegoat from behind bars.
The Kingpin does pretty well from jail. I'm sure we can easily prove that Hilton is still managing to dumb down the world even incarcerated.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:22 am
by Lunar
Jim North wrote:yeahduff wrote:She won't make for an effective scapegoat from behind bars.
The Kingpin does pretty well from jail. I'm sure we can easily prove that Hilton is still managing to dumb down the world even incarcerated.
Well you always hear how criminals in prison just learn to become better criminals, maybe the aura of stupidification that Paris Hilton seems to emit will have an adverse effect on this and thus be a benefit to society.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:05 am
by Noise Monkey
Lunar wrote:Jim North wrote:yeahduff wrote:She won't make for an effective scapegoat from behind bars.
The Kingpin does pretty well from jail. I'm sure we can easily prove that Hilton is still managing to dumb down the world even incarcerated.
Well you always hear how criminals in prison just learn to become better criminals, maybe the aura of stupidification that Paris Hilton seems to emit will have an adverse effect on this and thus be a benefit to society.
...............
That's genius!