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Yeah, it depends on the magazine. I like seeing the ads most of the time, especially since I'm a graphic designer. It's fun to wonder what the thought process was in a given ad, especially if it's a crappy ad. And especially if it's a good ad.

Ads don't really bother me in terms of readong flow. I get more annoyed by those subcription cards that make it difficult to flip through the magazine.

Guildmaster Van wrote:The comic industry is a dog-eat-dog world.
I don't think we honestly have the right to criticize other comics for doing what they need to in order to ensure both the survival of the artist and the comic.

I'll explain it with Team America terms.
Dicks make it in the world because they f**k everything that moves, both pussies and assholes. If you sit around being a pussy then you'll never f**k anything and being an asshole is just as bad because both are just going to end up getting f**ked. All people indescriminately fall into those three categories. Those that f**k, those that f**k too much, and those that don't do any f**king at all.

I mean, look at Kurtzy-boy. He's a dick and an asshole, and he f**ked Bondia. And he's extremely successful because of the fact he's a dick.

Mean people succeed, and the lesson in this is f**k or be f**ked.

As witty as this is, I don't think it's entirely true. I think a lot of people make life a lot harder for themselves by fighting the world instead of working with it. Sure, there's going to be all three of the ones listed above, probably in large quantities, but I've found that you actually get more out of life by being nice to the people you meet. Do you get 'f**ked'? Yes. Reguarly. But to fall into the same repetitious bullshit that everyone else is doing won't do anything but make it harder on you later on in life.

I'll use my father as an example. I have much respect for him, because whenever he does something, he makes sure it's done right. He works hard, puts effort into everything, and if he makes a mistake he always tries to fix it, free of charge. Because of this a lot of people admire and respect him. He's gotten screwed over by people taking advantage of his kindness, but he's gotten a lot more in return. He had a minor heart attack not long ago (He's doing fine now though, luckly.) but during that time, he had scores of people all wanting to do whatever they could to help him. His job was saved for him, and people wanted to take care of him, his house, and his family while he was in the hospital. He didn't have to worry about anything, (Even though he still did.) He's also gotten some great deals on things (Like a brand new hot-tub for a dollar.) because people thought of him first when they were looking to get rid of it.

In my own experiances, I've learned also that the more bridges you burn, the harder it is for you later on. If you keep your doors open, you won't be shut out in the cold if you ever get stuck in a position where you can't take care of yourself. And it can happen to anyone. Just pretending you have to be stronger than everyone else to survive is ultimately going to do nothing but end up making you miserable and alone. It's a rough world out there. Learning to bend is sometimes the only thing that will keep you from snapping in half.

You seem to misunderstand me, KKB.

I'm not talking about going out picking fights, but rather making business-minded decisions which can come off rude or arrogant.

Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins are dicks, plain and simple. They're rude and arrogant, but look at where they are. While being nice and kind with everyone has its advantages, you cannot solely rely on this tactic to advance one's self in life. One must comes to terms with the fact that things we need to do in order to succeed may come with a moral price, such as coming off as a prick.

Surprisingly to some people I'm an exceptionally nice person. I give to charity, to my friends, to the homeless, and kids hanging around the card shop just 'cause I feel like it. I hold the door, I use please and thank yous, I take off my shoes before entering anyone's home, and I never ask for anything unless it has been offered.

This gets me very far with people.

I am also a very direct and confrontational person. I approach the world in a way that could be called "black and white" despite the fact I do take many viewpoints into consideration before I speak or act. I will do what is necessary to make my goals a reality no matter whom I must overcome to achieve it. I also never back down from a fight, and never allow someone I disagree with one inch in a conversation.

This gets me called a douchebag.

Like I said; f**k or be f**ked. While you cannot go out picking fights with everyone (Which turns you from a dick into an asshole, like Kurtz) you cannot back down from confrontation either. You need to go in like a man and take control of the situation, be it anything from trying to promote your comic to trying to talk your way out of a ticket.

I find your comment about bending and snapping interesting, simply because I would much rather be the person bending and snapping than be the one bent or snapped

And what's wrong with being miserable? The greatest thinkers in history were completely miserable, and only through thought did they find methods to negate their misery. From a Marxist viewpoint misery is the catalyst for anger, which is the catalyst for change and revolution. Unfortunately, I'm not miserable enough to achieve greatness yet. I'm mostly just satiated and misanthropic

I try not to post here too often, but I'll be damned if I'm going to pass an opportunity to insult Tim Buckley.

Tim Buckley's Arrogant Shit
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Buckley's
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And finally, every CAD strip ever. Original here

I don't think being a dick is a matter of choice. Whether you are in lack of moral and integrity and tend to even screw your friends over, or a fine person who plain and simple feels guilt when doing something wrong (and therefore avoid to do it) is something you learn as a kid, the way you're raised, the things your parents teach you, maybe even earlier (Freudians would say, when you're a baby). I think that once you're formed as a person, you can't just go an say "From now on, I will be bad".

Ads don't really bother me in terms of readong flow. I get more annoyed by those subcription cards that make it difficult to flip through the magazine.

I only like those that aren't blued to the magazine, they make good bookmarks. Others, HAET!!!

Reclamare wrote:I try not to post here too often, but I'll be damned if I'm going to pass an opportunity to insult Tim Buckley.

Tim Buckley's Arrogant Shit
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Buckley's
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And finally, every CAD strip ever. Original here

I loved the one that made fun of how 2D his characters are, especially since the original is completely devoid of all humor.

And the whole "king of video games" bit was great, especially his "VIDEO GAMES!" expletive at the end, as if we forgot what he's talking about.

wow, this guy copies and pastes more than i do...

Most magnificent splendor, Reclamare!

Reclamare wrote:I try not to post here too often, but I'll be damned if I'm going to pass an opportunity to insult Tim Buckley.

Tim Buckley's Arrogant Shit
Mine

Buckley's
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And finally, every CAD strip ever. Original here

er that last one seemed to be just ripping on game related comics.
Seriously, whats the problem with playing to a specific audience?

Bwa ha ha. Bravo, Reclamare.



Serge, there's a term for what you are when you're going out of your way to tell people you're "not bothered" by something and that they are "entitled to their opinions" and you hide what you're trying to say by typing it backwards or trying to distract people with FF references.

That term is "passive-aggressive."


Edit: See? You're taking this personally. Instead of freaking out when people mock Buckley for making a crappy video game comic, you should try to figure out how to keep your comic from being a crappy one. We're not doing this to VG Cats for a reason.

That last dude's last remix is proof, it was just making fun of comics about video games. Tim Buckley is turning into a front for making fun of video game related comics themselves.

Now I have to be on the defensive.

Now you're just being ridiculous.

mcDuffies wrote:I don't think being a dick is a matter of choice. Whether you are in lack of moral and integrity and tend to even screw your friends over, or a fine person who plain and simple feels guilt when doing something wrong (and therefore avoid to do it) is something you learn as a kid, the way you're raised, the things your parents teach you, maybe even earlier (Freudians would say, when you're a baby). I think that once you're formed as a person, you can't just go an say "From now on, I will be bad".

Well, no, you missed my point once again.
More accurately when I say "be a dick" I mean "perform an action that makes you look like a dick".

I mean, this is the entire Old Yellow situation. You know you hafta shoot the dog because it's the best thing to do, but you don't want to because you don't feel it's right. Certain decisions, such as business ones, often have correct answers with "wrong" moral values.

'sides, I think everyone hates MT, CAD, PA, et cetera for one simple reason - jealousy.
Same reason why people hate Garfield, or Matt Groening hates Seth MacFarlane.
Naysay all you like, but when you boil down to it there's no logical reason to bash and criticize these people without due cause.


I mean, I think reclamare's remixes are simply in poor taste.
My remixes allude to blasphemy, bestiality, homosexuality, scat, satanism, pederasty, and pedophilia, but they aren't attacking the strip's creator for no reason. In calling Tim's work "arrogant shit" reclamare is acting like his own shit doesn't stink.

As for Sortelli's comment reasoning why there hasn't been a parody on VG Cats, it is simple: VG Cats has pretty much nothing to do with video games. The formula is simple - take a video game personality, make them do something outlandish, repeat. Combine with cutesy art to make a comic that is appealing to kids. You have to feel sorry for Scott, though, because cornering the thirteen-year old market is a quicker way to suicide than Kevorkian.

No, I'm not just ragging on Scott. I like VG Cats.
I just hate thirteen year old brats that copy and paste Leo into their Deviant Art journal or message board avatars and think they're so cool.
That, and if I see one more porn pic with Aeris in it I'm going to the nearest belltower with enough weaponry to conquer a third world nation.

Actually, I mentioned VG Cats because they do reference video games quite a bit, but they still find time to actually write something clever.

That and it's far more interesting to look at than CAD.

SergeXIII wrote:Now I have to be on the defensive.

No, you don't. For the most part they are Ripping on Tim. And like Sortelli pointed out, no one has ripped on VG cats yet. For it is a well done comic with a respected author.

I think that to many here video game comics are a tired and overpopulated genre. But if that's how they feel then you shouldn't care. You are not going to change their opinions by speaking against them and questioning their actions. Nor are they going to turn you off of video game comics by ripping on them. In fact, It's unlikely that is their intent. They are having fun.

This was started for fun. Not to question video game comics in general. And I kindly suggest that if it bothers you then stop reading and posting in this thread. All you will wind up doing is creating strife between those of different opinions and that can cause a flame war. And flame wars are bad.

That's possibly the most insightful I have ever been.
I have to lie down.

Thanks all.

Hey, I read plenty of gaming comics, being the nerd I am. Most of 'em are okay, I just find Buckley's comics to be pretty 2 dimensional. We've got wacky gamer, girl gamer and sarcastic gamer. I'm not a fit man to make a judgment on an entire genre of webcomics. Hell, I think Penny Arcade is probably the best webcomic on the net, because it's consistently interesting and funny.

I mean, I think reclamare's remixes are simply in poor taste.

Heh. I'm not very good at comics, sure, but I don't go around parading my work like it's the best thing since... Something great. I just find Buckley to be incredibly arrogant. I think Straub said it best when he referred to him as a 'Hypocritical Egomaniacal Manchild'.

I think I'm thinking about this too much, though.

...alright...

Its just that if you selling grapes, john and steve are selling grapes, and a bunch of people who sell oranges, apples and watermelons start mocking john and then steve, you can't help but feel that the grape market is under attack.

...yeah, my analogies rock [/sarcasm]

anyway, only gaming comics are under attack here, so naturaly I feel i should be on the defensive. For remixes like Claude's and Van's I'm cool with, but the ones like Reclamer's are just attacks on my genre.

SergeXIII wrote:Reclamer's are just attacks on my genre.

Hm, didn't mean to stir shit up with you sir but there's not a lot I can do to convince you otherwise, so I'll just let it go.

'scool so long as that wasnt your intent dude.