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Pimpette wrote:As for the sexual issues.. I think I count as straight.
I like to flirt with women, to snuggle and randomly grope (especially when drunk) and I've made out with a few..

cjburgandy wrote:*joins Pimette and Merc*.... must be a blond cartoonist thing

so... many... comments... so.... little time to run away from the pummeling.

I had a big post written on my religion and sexualiy, but I chickened out

Whoo! Lack-of-religion buddies!

mrs_rkolter wrote:

Pimpette wrote:I'm in love with men. I like the way they look, the way they smell... the way they are. And overall I seem to understand and get along with them better.

Damn, took the words out of my mouth.

Like adopted mother, like adopted daughter...?

Killbert-Robby wrote:

Pimpette wrote: My Oma (grandmother) is upset that only one or two of her twelve grandkids has any sort of Catholic belief at all.

Oma...are you dutch?

Damn straight.
We Dutch-Canadians will rule the world someday. There are just so many of us...

Pimpette wrote:As for the sexual issues.. I think I count as straight.
I like to flirt with women, to snuggle and randomly grope (especially when drunk) and I've made out with a few.. but I have no interest in really going any further than I have. Women are fun and I don't have enough of them around me - but I'm in love with men. I like the way they look, the way they smell... the way they are. And overall I seem to understand and get along with them better.

Okay, I guess I would count as straight instead of bi then, if everyone else looks at things that way, too...that just about explains my experiences with women too, anyway.

And even if I'd occasionally do things sexually with a woman, I don't think I could've actually dated one. It seems, though, that the drunker I get the more, um, promiscuous I get...with either gender.

Kat North wrote:

Pimpette wrote:As for the sexual issues.. I think I count as straight.
I like to flirt with women, to snuggle and randomly grope (especially when drunk) and I've made out with a few.. but I have no interest in really going any further than I have. Women are fun and I don't have enough of them around me - but I'm in love with men. I like the way they look, the way they smell... the way they are. And overall I seem to understand and get along with them better.

Okay, I guess I would count as straight instead of bi then, if everyone else looks at things that way, too...that just about explains my experiences with women too, anyway.

And even if I'd occasionally do things sexually with a woman, I don't think I could've actually dated one. It seems, though, that the drunker I get the more, um, promiscuous I get...with either gender.

::plots to get pimpette and kat drunk::

legostargalactica wrote:

Kat North wrote:

Pimpette wrote:As for the sexual issues.. I think I count as straight.
I like to flirt with women, to snuggle and randomly grope (especially when drunk) and I've made out with a few.. but I have no interest in really going any further than I have. Women are fun and I don't have enough of them around me - but I'm in love with men. I like the way they look, the way they smell... the way they are. And overall I seem to understand and get along with them better.

Okay, I guess I would count as straight instead of bi then, if everyone else looks at things that way, too...that just about explains my experiences with women too, anyway.

And even if I'd occasionally do things sexually with a woman, I don't think I could've actually dated one. It seems, though, that the drunker I get the more, um, promiscuous I get...with either gender.

::plots to get pimpette and kat drunk::

Go Lego!

Kat North wrote:

Pimpette wrote:As for the sexual issues.. I think I count as straight.
I like to flirt with women, to snuggle and randomly grope (especially when drunk) and I've made out with a few.. but I have no interest in really going any further than I have. Women are fun and I don't have enough of them around me - but I'm in love with men. I like the way they look, the way they smell... the way they are. And overall I seem to understand and get along with them better.

Okay, I guess I would count as straight instead of bi then, if everyone else looks at things that way, too...that just about explains my experiences with women too, anyway.

And even if I'd occasionally do things sexually with a woman, I don't think I could've actually dated one. It seems, though, that the drunker I get the more, um, promiscuous I get...with either gender.

I'm going to reiterate my belief that sexuality shouldn't be defined as "straight," "gay," and "bi." It's not always that black-and-white(-and-gray). There's a spectrum. A lot of people are on either side, but a lot of people are also in various places in the middle. Pimpette and Kat are near the "straight" side, but I don't think they're fully there, if they find females the least bit attractive, even when sloshed.

I agree, Sparrow. It is my impression that there is a certain degree of potential homosexuality in everyone and that raising, cultural enviroment and other factors decide whether this homosexuality will be active or not. That homosexuality (and specially bisexuality) is displayed rare in conservative countries like Serbia can be explained by active repression, but my impression is that it's partly a result of that conservative enviroment doesn't let homosexual side of individuals get developed. For someone who is potentially homosexual but also heterosexual to the extent, it's easier to choose heterosexual side because of peer pressure.
This is, of course, just my overall impression.

Black Sparrow wrote:

Kat North wrote:

Pimpette wrote:As for the sexual issues.. I think I count as straight.
I like to flirt with women, to snuggle and randomly grope (especially when drunk) and I've made out with a few.. but I have no interest in really going any further than I have. Women are fun and I don't have enough of them around me - but I'm in love with men. I like the way they look, the way they smell... the way they are. And overall I seem to understand and get along with them better.

Okay, I guess I would count as straight instead of bi then, if everyone else looks at things that way, too...that just about explains my experiences with women too, anyway.

And even if I'd occasionally do things sexually with a woman, I don't think I could've actually dated one. It seems, though, that the drunker I get the more, um, promiscuous I get...with either gender.

I'm going to reiterate my belief that sexuality shouldn't be defined as "straight," "gay," and "bi." It's not always that black-and-white(-and-gray). There's a spectrum. A lot of people are on either side, but a lot of people are also in various places in the middle. Pimpette and Kat are near the "straight" side, but I don't think they're fully there, if they find females the least bit attractive, even when sloshed.

The difficulty is that you are right, but you arn't thinking as a conversationalist.

The color spectrum (an excellent example) gives us a clue. What color is red? Is blood red? How about stop signs? Stop lights? Are Red apples red? What about the stitching on a baseball? Is raw beef red? There is a whole range of what RED is, but a general agreement that unless you really need to know the exact color of the object, things within a nearby range of RED are just RED.

Likewise, there is a whole spectrum of what it means to be Straight, or Gay, or Bi. You're entirely correct. But unless there is an actual need to point out precisely where you fit into that scale, having the general concepts labeled makes it easier to converse.

Pimpette wrote:

Killbert-Robby wrote:

Pimpette wrote: My Oma (grandmother) is upset that only one or two of her twelve grandkids has any sort of Catholic belief at all.

Oma...are you dutch?

Damn straight.
We Dutch-Canadians will rule the world someday. There are just so many of us...

Heh, yeah. Half of my Dutch family is in Canada. Toronto is pretty much my favourite place I've ever been.



And I have to agree with Rkolter. However, I think its not THAT grey either. I mean, you genuinely do have people who aren't attracted by people of the same or opposite sex. And there's not much variation that can go there. They might have the odd gay thought, but it doesn't make them LESS straight (or gay).

Keep in mind however I'm half dutch, therefore a liberal, and therefore I don't care either way

I'm a Serb and mostly liberal, so the nation must not be that descisive.

Kat North wrote:

Pimpette wrote:As for the sexual issues.. I think I count as straight.
I like to flirt with women, to snuggle and randomly grope (especially when drunk) and I've made out with a few.. but I have no interest in really going any further than I have. Women are fun and I don't have enough of them around me - but I'm in love with men. I like the way they look, the way they smell... the way they are. And overall I seem to understand and get along with them better.

Okay, I guess I would count as straight instead of bi then, if everyone else looks at things that way, too...that just about explains my experiences with women too, anyway.

And even if I'd occasionally do things sexually with a woman, I don't think I could've actually dated one. It seems, though, that the drunker I get the more, um, promiscuous I get...with either gender.

I almost dated a girl once.

Then I realized... WOMEN ARE CRAZY.

I have never tried again since.

Pimpette wrote:

Kat North wrote:

Pimpette wrote:As for the sexual issues.. I think I count as straight.
I like to flirt with women, to snuggle and randomly grope (especially when drunk) and I've made out with a few.. but I have no interest in really going any further than I have. Women are fun and I don't have enough of them around me - but I'm in love with men. I like the way they look, the way they smell... the way they are. And overall I seem to understand and get along with them better.

Okay, I guess I would count as straight instead of bi then, if everyone else looks at things that way, too...that just about explains my experiences with women too, anyway.

And even if I'd occasionally do things sexually with a woman, I don't think I could've actually dated one. It seems, though, that the drunker I get the more, um, promiscuous I get...with either gender.

I almost dated a girl once.

Then I realized... WOMEN ARE CRAZY.

I have never tried again since.

Welcome to manhood. Here's your penis. Your lobotomy is scheduled for tomorrow.

rkolter wrote:

Pimpette wrote:

Kat North wrote: Okay, I guess I would count as straight instead of bi then, if everyone else looks at things that way, too...that just about explains my experiences with women too, anyway.

And even if I'd occasionally do things sexually with a woman, I don't think I could've actually dated one. It seems, though, that the drunker I get the more, um, promiscuous I get...with either gender.

I almost dated a girl once.

Then I realized... WOMEN ARE CRAZY.

I have never tried again since.

Welcome to manhood. Here's your penis. Your lobotomy is scheduled for tomorrow.

No no no, she can't be a man, she escaped the cycle. RUN FREE PIMPETTE!

Rolf the Dog: Stay away from women! That's my motto!
Kermit the Frog: But I can't!
Rolf the Dog: Neither can I. That's my trouble!

rkolter wrote:

Pimpette wrote:

Kat North wrote: Okay, I guess I would count as straight instead of bi then, if everyone else looks at things that way, too...that just about explains my experiences with women too, anyway.

And even if I'd occasionally do things sexually with a woman, I don't think I could've actually dated one. It seems, though, that the drunker I get the more, um, promiscuous I get...with either gender.

I almost dated a girl once.

Then I realized... WOMEN ARE CRAZY.

I have never tried again since.

Welcome to manhood. Here's your penis. Your lobotomy is scheduled for tomorrow.

NOES!

*flees*

Pimpette wrote:

Kat North wrote:

Pimpette wrote:As for the sexual issues.. I think I count as straight.
I like to flirt with women, to snuggle and randomly grope (especially when drunk) and I've made out with a few.. but I have no interest in really going any further than I have. Women are fun and I don't have enough of them around me - but I'm in love with men. I like the way they look, the way they smell... the way they are. And overall I seem to understand and get along with them better.

Okay, I guess I would count as straight instead of bi then, if everyone else looks at things that way, too...that just about explains my experiences with women too, anyway.

And even if I'd occasionally do things sexually with a woman, I don't think I could've actually dated one. It seems, though, that the drunker I get the more, um, promiscuous I get...with either gender.

I almost dated a girl once.

Then I realized... WOMEN ARE CRAZY.

I have never tried again since.

Yes, your gender does indeed have alot to answer for. Not like us.
[sarcasm]
You know, sensible, wise, mature men...
[/sarcasm]

Don't listen to Pimpette.

Women are awesome. I loves them lots.

yes, I to do not understand this, women are crazy talk.

The thing is, women are hot. Very hot. Not that men aren't attractive themselves. But women are hot.

And good conversators.

And definately not crazy.

And what more in life can one want than to have someone to sex, and then go to farmer's market with.

To be fair, it's also nice to have someone you can sex, then watch the final four with.

Luckily neither of those things have anything to do with gender, and have everything to do with hot womens.

I'm not sure about that crazy liberal farmer's market talk but I'm down with the rest of it. Fo'sure.

rkolter wrote:

Black Sparrow wrote:

Kat North wrote: Okay, I guess I would count as straight instead of bi then, if everyone else looks at things that way, too...that just about explains my experiences with women too, anyway.

And even if I'd occasionally do things sexually with a woman, I don't think I could've actually dated one. It seems, though, that the drunker I get the more, um, promiscuous I get...with either gender.

I'm going to reiterate my belief that sexuality shouldn't be defined as "straight," "gay," and "bi." It's not always that black-and-white(-and-gray). There's a spectrum. A lot of people are on either side, but a lot of people are also in various places in the middle. Pimpette and Kat are near the "straight" side, but I don't think they're fully there, if they find females the least bit attractive, even when sloshed.

The difficulty is that you are right, but you arn't thinking as a conversationalist.

The color spectrum (an excellent example) gives us a clue. What color is red? Is blood red? How about stop signs? Stop lights? Are Red apples red? What about the stitching on a baseball? Is raw beef red? There is a whole range of what RED is, but a general agreement that unless you really need to know the exact color of the object, things within a nearby range of RED are just RED.

Likewise, there is a whole spectrum of what it means to be Straight, or Gay, or Bi. You're entirely correct. But unless there is an actual need to point out precisely where you fit into that scale, having the general concepts labeled makes it easier to converse.

yay for feminist theories!! (that's actually taught in current women's studies and sexuality curriculums)

Rocknjosie wrote:
yes, I to do not understand this, women are crazy talk.

The thing is, women are hot. Very hot. Not that men aren't attractive themselves. But women are hot.

And good conversators.

And definately not crazy.

And what more in life can one want than to have someone to sex, and then go to farmer's market with.

To be fair, it's also nice to have someone you can sex, then watch the final four with.

Luckily neither of those things have anything to do with gender, and have everything to do with hot womens.

"I choose to be gay because women are so damn hot and men are icky."- an arguement I once used with an ultra-right conservative.