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From your title we can derive that this post was your 123rd.PF27 wrote:This is really not cool. Now I'll never know when I've reached 100 posts, which is always a big "Less of a n00b" thing for me on forums.
EDIT: Vort beat me to it.
Last edited by Czar on Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:50 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Three reasons why this is a joke:
1. I have faith in Kisai's and Merc's good judgement, and removing postcounts permanently on a whim would be a case of poor judgement.
2. If Kisai made a drastic change to forums, she wouldn't announce that via flash cartoon in an annonimous post.
3. Postcount is still there, only it's not visible. If they wanted to remove it permanently, they'd delete it completely.
The unneeded pressure you're talking about is a social pressure, the pressure to fit in. Some people sure translate this pressure to a number of posts, but that's just a fallacy on their part. to them, higher postcount is just a sign that they've fit in (which, perhaps, even makes that pressure smaller). Take the postcount away, and pressure remains.
1. I have faith in Kisai's and Merc's good judgement, and removing postcounts permanently on a whim would be a case of poor judgement.
2. If Kisai made a drastic change to forums, she wouldn't announce that via flash cartoon in an annonimous post.
3. Postcount is still there, only it's not visible. If they wanted to remove it permanently, they'd delete it completely.
Postcount, together with the joining date, gives a lot of information about the poster. It often helped me giving a hint that someone who just appeared is an old poster whom I've forgotten. The pacing with which postscount grow is a hint on how much someone is active on forums: whether he's just an occasional poster or a regular, or even too hyperactive. To me who don't visit Help forum, postcount was sometimes a hint that someone is active in Help forum which makes me gain appreciation toward him/her. To a newbie, posts can be a clue of how much trusting he should be toward forumites he's just getting to know. A newbie, for instance, won't listen to a rant about forum etiquette from someone who has 12 posts himself. Without postcount, there's no way for him to know that.Czar wrote:But I still see no viable argument to keep postcounts.
It just puts unneeded pressure on the posters.
The unneeded pressure you're talking about is a social pressure, the pressure to fit in. Some people sure translate this pressure to a number of posts, but that's just a fallacy on their part. to them, higher postcount is just a sign that they've fit in (which, perhaps, even makes that pressure smaller). Take the postcount away, and pressure remains.
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What you're not realizing is that people are doing that for fun, not because they feel that it's some race that they have to win. There isn't any pressure, and the competition is a friendly one.Czar wrote:The fact that people are striving to maintain positions in the memberlist ranking is caused by the presence of postcounts. Without postcounts no competition, no pressure.
I mean, c'mon, would you say that people playing deathmatch vidgames in the comfort of their own home are also under a ton of pressure to beat each other, or would you say they're just playing around and having fun? Taking away people's postcounts is like snatching away a little kid's GameBoy. I for one got some fun out of the "Post Count Collectable Card Game" we had running for a little while . . . pictures of the major numbers (2000, 666, etc.) were like variant cards, and people were posting which ones they'd screencaptured.
You seem to think that something has to have a serious reason to exist on the forums, and I have to wonder why. These really aren't but half-serious forums to begin with, really.
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Yay!
Seriously?!Cope wrote:Oh, hey...guess who just made it to page one.
Well, would you look at that. I am now content.

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Re: Yay!
That won't last, jim just needs to post a bit more.Black Sparrow wrote:Seriously?!Cope wrote:Oh, hey...guess who just made it to page one.
Well, would you look at that. I am now content.
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She's a postwhoring MACHINE! Someone save me! ;_;
He can't compete, I tell you!
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Re: Yay!
All Sparrow's position on the front page are belong to me?Vorticus wrote:That won't last, jim just needs to post a bit more.
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Ah!
Nooooo! Must... keep posting...!Vorticus wrote:That won't last, jim just needs to post a bit more.Black Sparrow wrote:Seriously?!Cope wrote:Oh, hey...guess who just made it to page one.
Well, would you look at that. I am now content.

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Re: Ah!
I WILL BREAK YOU LIKE A TOOTHPICKBlack Sparrow wrote:Nooooo! Must... keep posting...!Vorticus wrote:That won't last, jim just needs to post a bit more.
*flexes posting muscles*
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Soooo close
And now I have to go to school for five hours.Jim North wrote:I WILL BREAK YOU LIKE A TOOTHPICKBlack Sparrow wrote:Nooooo! Must... keep posting...!Vorticus wrote:That won't last, jim just needs to post a bit more.
*flexes posting muscles*
I'll get you next time, Jim North! Next time!

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Re: Soooo close
And I have to go to work for about seven hours here soon.Black Sparrow wrote:And now I have to go to school for five hours.
Blast and damn!
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Ten reasons to keep postcounts:
1) They serve a function - they suggest who the regular forumites are to people who are not familiar with our title system.
2) They serve to make the titles meaningful in a great many cases and to suggest where your next title is going to lie. If you see someone with 500 more posts than you and a different title, you know you are close to getting that title. Without postcounts, you do not know that.
3) They serve as fun benchmarks for people who watch their postcounts: 3000! 4000! 5000!
4) The people who watch their post counts and like to see them climb in friendly competition do not in general consider this pressure to post.
5) People who watch their post counts generally like to see their posts counted.
6) The people who watch their post counts will not likely stop posting now that postcounts have been removed.
7) The only time there is angst about postcounts here in these forums is when the postcounts are removed or altered, suggesting that they are generally liked. When the postcounts are removed or altered, there is never any grassroots campaign to remove them utterly.
8) If done as a joke or as a hack, then on general principle, the forums should be restored to their pre-joke or pre-hack conditions and the abuse should not be used as a reason to make a change in policy. If done as an administration decision that administrator is guilty of the same kind of short-sighted abuse of authority we have blamed StrRedWolf for in the past, and the change should be, again, reversed purely on principle.
9) Traditionally, we have had postcounts here; unlike Czar's example, we did not recently move to having postcounts, and all people who are here now joined when postcounts were already enabled, so that other sites do not have them, and later brought them up and had problems, is not relevant to this arguement.
10) There has yet to be anyone who has argued a reason for not having postcounts above and beyond "they seem meaningless and are unnecessary" which is handled by 1-9 above. For example, nobody has yet to say, "I feel intimidated by people who have high postcounts so I don't post regularly." Or, "I feel I have to postwhore to keep my position in the rankings."
1) They serve a function - they suggest who the regular forumites are to people who are not familiar with our title system.
2) They serve to make the titles meaningful in a great many cases and to suggest where your next title is going to lie. If you see someone with 500 more posts than you and a different title, you know you are close to getting that title. Without postcounts, you do not know that.
3) They serve as fun benchmarks for people who watch their postcounts: 3000! 4000! 5000!
4) The people who watch their post counts and like to see them climb in friendly competition do not in general consider this pressure to post.
5) People who watch their post counts generally like to see their posts counted.
6) The people who watch their post counts will not likely stop posting now that postcounts have been removed.
7) The only time there is angst about postcounts here in these forums is when the postcounts are removed or altered, suggesting that they are generally liked. When the postcounts are removed or altered, there is never any grassroots campaign to remove them utterly.
8) If done as a joke or as a hack, then on general principle, the forums should be restored to their pre-joke or pre-hack conditions and the abuse should not be used as a reason to make a change in policy. If done as an administration decision that administrator is guilty of the same kind of short-sighted abuse of authority we have blamed StrRedWolf for in the past, and the change should be, again, reversed purely on principle.
9) Traditionally, we have had postcounts here; unlike Czar's example, we did not recently move to having postcounts, and all people who are here now joined when postcounts were already enabled, so that other sites do not have them, and later brought them up and had problems, is not relevant to this arguement.
10) There has yet to be anyone who has argued a reason for not having postcounts above and beyond "they seem meaningless and are unnecessary" which is handled by 1-9 above. For example, nobody has yet to say, "I feel intimidated by people who have high postcounts so I don't post regularly." Or, "I feel I have to postwhore to keep my position in the rankings."
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Thanks for just blaming me, guys, even though I have zero access to the code and you know as well as I do that it's hard to make Kisai do something she really doesn't want to.
In other words, this was ultimately Kisai's decision and I felt ambivalent towards the whole matter. Yes, I do dislike people going on and on about their postcounts, but what are you thinking? That I just hammered Kisai day after day "Take off the post counts, take them off, come on and remove them, get rid of them"? Is it possible maybe she disliked the behavior associated with people obsessed about postcounts and just wasn't as vocal about it?
Jesus Christ.
In other words, this was ultimately Kisai's decision and I felt ambivalent towards the whole matter. Yes, I do dislike people going on and on about their postcounts, but what are you thinking? That I just hammered Kisai day after day "Take off the post counts, take them off, come on and remove them, get rid of them"? Is it possible maybe she disliked the behavior associated with people obsessed about postcounts and just wasn't as vocal about it?
Jesus Christ.


















