Something no one would guess...

Nyke · Post by **Nyke** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:45 pm

No matter how many times I do something, I can be stopped to a halt by asking myself "why?".

Breathe normally, walk normally, talk normally, go through morning rituals, etc.

KittyKatBlack · Post by **KittyKatBlack** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:07 pm

cjburgandy wrote:
rkolter wrote:Now Kisai be fair. Bill may well have ripped off the original concept of Windows, but his company did write the source code for it. They'd have to - they had to invent DOS for their original platform; that wasn't stolen from anyone. Then the concept for windows might have been stolen from Apple, but they still had to write the code for it - Apple has said at that time they weren't working on a DOS based windows platform.

The current software they produce has no comparison on any other platform - in fact, other platforms have stolen their concepts from Microsoft. By way of example, if Microsoft "stole" the concept of windows from Apple, then the linux community "stole" the concept for xwindows from Microsoft.

No doubt Microsoft is one of those corporations that thinks it's so big that it can get what it wants. And that's bad. But they aren't a horde of thieves led by ringleader Bill Gates.
Microsoft didn't write DOS. They bought the code from someone. and to be fair, Apple stole the interfacing ideas from Xerox. The only coding that Bill gates has really done, was he wrote Basic. Everything else was snatched or bought from someone else. Bill Gates may be evil, but he's a genius when it comes to making business ventures, even if they're risky as hell. He told IBM about DOS before he had even bought the rights to it, or even knew if the code actually exsisted. Now, that takes balls.

They bought it from Xerox. Xerox invented the original GUI, but they didn't think it was anything more than a cool toy. Apple bought it from Xerox, HOWEVER at the time, Bill Gates AND Steve Jobs both worked for Apple. So technicly, Since Bill Gates IS Microsoft, both Apple and Microsoft both bought it from Xerox. There was no stealing. It was leagally purchased. Now, Steve Jobs was the hardware guy. He worked on the phsycial stuff. Bill Gates was the software stuff. There was a dissagreement between Jobs and Gates about what to do with the Gui they perchased. Jobs wanted to make it exclusively for their hardware (The way Apple STILL runs things to this day.) but Gates realized that making it into stand alone software that can be used on multiple platforms would make much more sence. So, he worked on OS 1 for Jobs, but at the same time, developed Windows as a side project. OS 1 was releasted to the world with the Macintosh, but after that Gates left and started his own company, called Microsoft, using the side project called Windows as his flagship product. So in actuality, Microsoft technicly wrote both the Apple OS and Windows. But OS has since been developed by Apple, and Windows has been developed by Microsoft. So in reality, there was no stealing involved at all. They were essentially the same program that have grown into two seperate things, stemming from the original GUI developed by Xerox.

Edit: By the way, Bill Gates DID write DOS (In fact, it's probably one of the only programs he actually wrote.) DOS is a command line program, not a GUI (Graphical User Interface). Xerox developed the first GUI.

Edit 2: Another thing a lot of people wouldn't guess: I watch a lot of random documentries about random topics. ^_^

Edit 3: By the way, I know this was an old topic from two pages ago, but I was working today and missed it. So

Keffria · Post by **Keffria** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:20 pm

rock_dash wrote:Anyway, I have a really hard time letting go of bad memories. Sometimes, I'll just be sitting there, and one of those memories will hit me, and I'll make odd noises while trying to forget about it.

Really? That happens to me, sometimes, too ... although I don't make weird noises, I just try to concentrate on something else...

Dr Legostar · Post by **Dr Legostar** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:24 pm

Keffria wrote:
rock_dash wrote:Anyway, I have a really hard time letting go of bad memories. Sometimes, I'll just be sitting there, and one of those memories will hit me, and I'll make odd noises while trying to forget about it.
Really? That happens to me, sometimes, too ... although I don't make weird noises, I just try to concentrate on something else...

i'm the same way.. as keff, not as rock, i don't know what's up with the weird noises...

Pimpette · Post by **Pimpette** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:29 pm

I like the smell of gasoline/engine oil and cigarettes on people.
Because that's what my Papa (grandpa) always smelled like. I <3 my Papa.

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:51 pm

Pimpette wrote:I like the smell of gasoline/engine oil and cigarettes on people.
Because that's what my Papa (grandpa) always smelled like. I <3 my Papa.

That reminds me of the same thing with the way my father smelled when he came home from work (where I happen to work now). My mom complained of how I smell when I got home, and admitted both she and my father never liked the smell when he started working there. My brother and I, however, find the smell to be somewhat pleasant.

K-Dawg · Post by **K-Dawg** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:56 pm

legostargalactica wrote:
Keffria wrote:
rock_dash wrote:Anyway, I have a really hard time letting go of bad memories. Sometimes, I'll just be sitting there, and one of those memories will hit me, and I'll make odd noises while trying to forget about it.
Really? That happens to me, sometimes, too ... although I don't make weird noises, I just try to concentrate on something else...
i'm the same way.. as keff, not as rock, i don't know what's up with the weird noises...

I usually don't let bad memories linger in my head. I shrug em off then go have fun doing something.

Vorticus · Post by **Vorticus** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:58 pm

legostargalactica wrote:
Keffria wrote:
rock_dash wrote:Anyway, I have a really hard time letting go of bad memories. Sometimes, I'll just be sitting there, and one of those memories will hit me, and I'll make odd noises while trying to forget about it.
Really? That happens to me, sometimes, too ... although I don't make weird noises, I just try to concentrate on something else...
i'm the same way.. as keff, not as rock, i don't know what's up with the weird noises...

I make weird noises when I'm poked.

Black Sparrow · Post by **Black Sparrow** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:05 pm

Vorticus wrote:
legostargalactica wrote:
Keffria wrote: Really? That happens to me, sometimes, too ... although I don't make weird noises, I just try to concentrate on something else...
i'm the same way.. as keff, not as rock, i don't know what's up with the weird noises...
I make weird noises when I'm poked.

I knew that!

You also make weird noises when you see girls in tight dresses.

K-Dawg · Post by **K-Dawg** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:07 pm

Black Sparrow wrote:
I knew that!

You also make weird noises when you see girls in tight dresses.

Oh man I can't wait to meet Vort.

Black Sparrow · Post by **Black Sparrow** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:08 pm

K-Dawg wrote:
Black Sparrow wrote:
I knew that!

You also make weird noises when you see girls in tight dresses.

Oh man I can't wait to meet Vort.

Frankly, I can't wait to see him out by the pool. All those girls in skimpy bikinis...

It may seriously break him.

K-Dawg · Post by **K-Dawg** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:10 pm

I'll be sure to take a picture.

Black Sparrow · Post by **Black Sparrow** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:11 pm

K-Dawg wrote:I'll be sure to take a picture.

Make copies!

Vorticus · Post by **Vorticus** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:13 pm

Black Sparrow wrote:
Vorticus wrote:
legostargalactica wrote: i'm the same way.. as keff, not as rock, i don't know what's up with the weird noises...
I make weird noises when I'm poked.
I knew that!

You also make weird noises when you see girls in tight dresses.

That was just that one time. I hate to disappoint but I don't think that will happen again anytime soon.

If anyone cares to know the honest truth about that, they can ask me in chat.

Post by **Kisai** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:15 pm

KittyKatBlack wrote:
cjburgandy wrote:
rkolter wrote:Now Kisai be fair. Bill may well have ripped off the original concept of Windows, but his company did write the source code for it. They'd have to - they had to invent DOS for their original platform; that wasn't stolen from anyone. Then the concept for windows might have been stolen from Apple, but they still had to write the code for it - Apple has said at that time they weren't working on a DOS based windows platform.

The current software they produce has no comparison on any other platform - in fact, other platforms have stolen their concepts from Microsoft. By way of example, if Microsoft "stole" the concept of windows from Apple, then the linux community "stole" the concept for xwindows from Microsoft.

No doubt Microsoft is one of those corporations that thinks it's so big that it can get what it wants. And that's bad. But they aren't a horde of thieves led by ringleader Bill Gates. :)
Microsoft didn't write DOS. They bought the code from someone. and to be fair, Apple stole the interfacing ideas from Xerox. The only coding that Bill gates has really done, was he wrote Basic. Everything else was snatched or bought from someone else. Bill Gates may be evil, but he's a genius when it comes to making business ventures, even if they're risky as hell. He told IBM about DOS before he had even bought the rights to it, or even knew if the code actually exsisted. Now, that takes balls.
They bought it from Xerox. Xerox invented the original GUI, but they didn't think it was anything more than a cool toy. Apple bought it from Xerox, HOWEVER at the time, Bill Gates AND Steve Jobs both worked for Apple. So technicly, Since Bill Gates IS Microsoft, both Apple and Microsoft both bought it from Xerox. There was no stealing. It was leagally purchased. Now, Steve Jobs was the hardware guy. He worked on the phsycial stuff. Bill Gates was the software stuff. There was a dissagreement between Jobs and Gates about what to do with the Gui they perchased. Jobs wanted to make it exclusively for their hardware (The way Apple STILL runs things to this day.) but Gates realized that making it into stand alone software that can be used on multiple platforms would make much more sence. So, he worked on OS 1 for Jobs, but at the same time, developed Windows as a side project. OS 1 was releasted to the world with the Macintosh, but after that Gates left and started his own company, called Microsoft, using the side project called Windows as his flagship product. So in actuality, Microsoft technicly wrote both the Apple OS and Windows. But OS has since been developed by Apple, and Windows has been developed by Microsoft. So in reality, there was no stealing involved at all. They were essentially the same program that have grown into two seperate things, stemming from the original GUI developed by Xerox.

Edit: By the way, Bill Gates DID write DOS (In fact, it's probably one of the only programs he actually wrote.) DOS is a command line program, not a GUI (Graphical User Interface). Xerox developed the first GUI.

Edit 2: Another thing a lot of people wouldn't guess: I watch a lot of random documentries about random topics. ^_^

Edit 3: By the way, I know this was an old topic from two pages ago, but I was working today and missed it. So :P

KKB I think you are confusing reality with something else. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft

Bill gates didn't write DOS, he licensed it
Bill gates didn't invent basic, wrote the altair's BASIC and got pissed off when people were pirating it, Bill gates is the father of the EULA.
Bill gates never worked for apple, microsoft had an agreement to write software for apple, but they misappropriated trade secrets from apple in doing so and wrote windows. (I should also mention that there were a few other GUI systems at the time). If you've seen Windows 1.0 or 2.11 and compared it with early MacOS, the resolution is the same, but windows is horribly clunky.

Windows didn't gain market share untill 3.1 (3.0 lacked OLE, which is something that IIRC the mac could do.)
Windows 95 was the first fully 32bit preemptive multitasting OS by Microsoft... By comparision MacOS up to I belive 7.5 was cooperatively multitasking like windows 3.1 MacOS 8 addd preemptive multitasking and this is where MacOS started breaking down.
Windows 95... broke down from the start.

Windows NT 3.1 (aka OS2) is another point of Microsoft stabbing it's business partners. Microsoft and IBM agreed to work on OS2 as preemptive multitasking operating system. Microsoft took their work on it and released Windows NT (which worked on i386, Alpha, MIPS, PPC and probably others IIRC, so yes running Windows XP on a PPC isn't out of the question, the NT kernel runs on other platforms.) So in essance, Microsoft forked OS2 to get Windows NT. Then they put the Windows 3.1 Gui into it. Ever wonder why OS2 can run windows 3.1 software?

Anyhow. My point of saying that Evil Billy Gates is such is that his business practices are license and stab or buy and bury.

So yes, Bill is evil. He is the evil ruthless business man. I think the other other evil ruthless business man is Sam Walton (Walmart) , They both got where they are by playing business in a "Do it my way or I'll make sure your products never work with mine"

Anyways I'd rather not continue the argument about wether bill is evil, I'm not spouting linux zealot rhetoric, I'm just saying from my point of view their business methods were detrimental to their economic markets.

Jim North · Post by **Jim North** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:49 pm

Tim wrote:That reminds me of the same thing with the way my father smelled when he came home from work (where I happen to work now). My mom complained of how I smell when I got home, and admitted both she and my father never liked the smell when he started working there. My brother and I, however, find the smell to be somewhat pleasant.

On the opposite side of that coin . . .

My first job was as a night watchman/janitor at a Flexsteel factory. I worked the vampire shift . . . literally, for about a month or so, I did not see the sun at all. Things there got pretty bad, and nowadays there are a few small things that remind me of that time and give me the creeps a little. The most common of those small things is flourescent lights at night, usually over parking lots and especially when there's any amount of loose gravel around.

Rock_dash · Post by **Rock_dash** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:39 pm

Black Sparrow wrote: Frankly, I can't wait to see him out by the pool. All those girls in skimpy bikinis...

There's gonna be a pool?

Oh, who am I kidding...I probably won't be able to go near it either...

Pimpette · Post by **Pimpette** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:48 pm

rock_dash wrote:
Black Sparrow wrote: Frankly, I can't wait to see him out by the pool. All those girls in skimpy bikinis...
There's gonna be a pool?

And a hot tub, we think..

Black Sparrow · Post by **Black Sparrow** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:54 pm

Pimpette wrote:
rock_dash wrote:
Black Sparrow wrote: Frankly, I can't wait to see him out by the pool. All those girls in skimpy bikinis...
There's gonna be a pool?
And a hot tub, we think..

And with the CGers coming this year, the emphasis is on "hawt".

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:48 am

Vorticus wrote:
legostargalactica wrote:
Keffria wrote: Really? That happens to me, sometimes, too ... although I don't make weird noises, I just try to concentrate on something else...
i'm the same way.. as keff, not as rock, i don't know what's up with the weird noises...
I make weird noises when I'm poked.

Me too. I'm afraid Cookie and Beth might abuse that for their own entertainment purposes.