The freakish size of Nancy Reagan's head.

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The Neko wrote:Isn't it also a huge source of Meth for Alaska?
From what I understand, it's the meth capital of the state. I'm far from an authority on the subject, though. I can say, however, that most other small towns 'round those parts usually just have a lot of weed.
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Yeah, I hate Palin. She tried to get some books in the city library banned for 'objectionable language' when she was mayor of Wasilla, and when the librarian refused she tried to fire her.

She also got into a scandal over firing the town's police chief over questionable reasons. The chief persued a lawsuit against her, claiming that she did so on behalf of campaign contributors, specifically some bar owners and the NRA. Though apparently the lawsuit was dismissed.

Plus she demanded that rape victims pay for their own rape kits- that's between $300 and $1200 per woman.

Plus McCain's claim that she never sought earmarks, when she perused $198 million through them. She's not the only one guilty of earmarks...far from it. It seems to be the name of the game in Washington. But it is important to note, especially considering the large amount.

Plus her policy of appointing friends to positions regardless of qualifications. Anyone want another Brown and Katrina scenerio?

At any rate, this article is very good. It also led to this hilarious quote- "“I’m still proud of Sarah, but she scares the bejeebers out of me.”"
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I'll probably end up voting for Obama... begrudgingly though. I was a militant supporter of Hillary Clinton during primary season.

As for Sarah Palin, I find crazy bitches very sexy. :twisted:
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my friends yesterday was like "I'm voting for Mccain" and this friend is pretty sensitive about a lot of things, that Pallin is for (gay rights, animals, women worker rights) so I'm like WTF? you? why? she's all like "shes a woman." so explained to her some of the evils of Pallin (cause I don't care that much about politics but I hate Pallin) so she's like "guess maybe I should research before making a decision huh?" oh I love gems like these.... but a lot of people think this way. easy indentifable traits is what gets in most common voters. its like taxes... is really the only issue most people talk about. well gas prices... but money thats all anyone cares about. no wonder the ship is sinking.
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MixedMyth wrote:Yeah, I hate Palin. She tried to get some books in the city library banned for 'objectionable language' when she was mayor of Wasilla, and when the librarian refused she tried to fire her.
Not exactly.
One accusation claims then-Mayor Palin threatened to fire Wasilla’s librarian for refusing to ban books from the town library. Some versions of the rumor come complete with a list of the books that Palin allegedly attempted to ban. Actually, Palin never asked that books be banned; no books were actually banned; and many of the books on the list that Palin supposedly wanted to censor weren't even in print at the time, proving that the list is a fabrication. The librarian was fired, but was told only that Palin felt she didn’t support her. She was re-hired the next day. The librarian never claimed that Palin threatened outright to fire her for refusing to ban books.

It’s true that Palin did raise the issue with Mary Ellen Emmons, Wasilla’s librarian, on at least two occasions, three in some versions. Emmons flatly stated her opposition each time. But, as the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman (Wasilla’s local paper) reported at the time, Palin asked general questions about what Emmons would say if Palin requested that a book be banned. According to Emmons, Palin "was asking me how I would deal with her saying a book can't be in the library." Emmons reported that Palin pressed the issue, asking whether Emmons' position would change if residents were picketing the library. Wasilla resident Anne Kilkenny, who was at the meeting, corroborates Emmons' story, telling the Chicago Tribune that "Sarah said to Mary Ellen, 'What would your response be if I asked you to remove some books from the collection?' "

Palin characterized the exchange differently, initially volunteering the episode as an example of discussions with city employees about following her administration's agenda. Palin described her questions to Emmons as “rhetorical,” noting that her questions "were asked in the context of professionalism regarding the library policy that is in place in our city." Actually, true rhetorical questions have implied answers (e.g., “Who do you think you are?”), so Palin probably meant to describe her questions as hypothetical or theoretical. We can't read minds, so it is impossible for us to know whether or not Palin may actually have wanted to ban books from the library or whether she simply wanted to know how her new employees would respond to an instruction from their boss. It is worth noting that, in an update, the Frontiersman points out that no book was ever banned from the library’s shelves.

Palin initially requested Emmons’ resignation, along with those of Wasilla’s other department heads, in October 1996. Palin described the requests as a loyalty test and allowed all of them (except one, whose department she was eliminating) to retain their positions. But in January 1997, Palin fired Emmons, along with the police chief. According to the Chicago Tribune, Palin did not list censorship as a reason for Emmons’ firing, but said she didn’t feel she had Emmons’ support. The decision caused “a stir” in the small town, according to a newspaper account at the time. According to a widely circulated e-mail from Kilkenny, “city residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin’s attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter.”

As we’ve noted, Palin did not attempt to ban any library books. We don’t know if Emmons’ resistance to Palin’s questions about possible censorship had anything to do with Emmons’ firing. And we have no idea if the protests had any impact on Palin at all. There simply isn’t any evidence that we can find either way. Palin did re-hire Emmons the following day, saying that she now felt she had the librarian’s backing. Emmons continued to serve as librarian until August 1999, when the Chicago Tribune reports that she resigned.

So what about that list of books targeted for banning, which according to one widely e-mailed version was taken “from the official minutes of the Wasilla Library Board”? If it was, the library board should take up fortune telling. The list includes the first four Harry Potter books, none of which had been published at the time of the Palin-Emmons conversations. The first wasn't published until 1998. In fact, the list is a simple cut-and-paste job, snatched (complete with typos and the occasional incorrect title) from the Florida Institute of Technology library Web page, which presents the list as “Books banned at one time or another in the United States.”

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you know what? screw this.
I'm writing in RKolter.
if we're gonna have someone able to use nukes in the white house, we should have someone who understands them.
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it'd be like a mythbusters ticket, but I'd still have something to watch on wednesdays.
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Col wrote: Not exactly.
Not that she comes off any better after the clarification.
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Dracomax wrote:you know what? screw this.
I'm writing in RKolter.
if we're gonna have someone able to use nukes in the white house, we should have someone who understands them.
Knowing Rkolter, he wouldn't support this.
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Col wrote: Not exactly.
Not that she comes off any better after the clarification.
What I was gonna say. And not just because she doesn't know what "rhetorical" means. :lol:

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And honestly, what kind of person doesn't know what rhetorical means?

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TellTaleHeart wrote:And honestly, what kind of person doesn't know what rhetorical means?

well the kind of people that... oh.. heh.. that was a rhetorical question, wasn't it?
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Yeahduff wrote:
Col wrote: Not exactly.
Not that she comes off any better after the clarification.
Agreed.

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Col wrote:
Yeahduff wrote:
Col wrote: Not exactly.
Not that she comes off any better after the clarification.
Agreed.
She tried to ban books, she just did it in a very political way where plausible deniability exists because she didn't explicitly try to ban them just in case something like this happens. I don't even care what books she had in mind, I oppose banning books.
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I'd ban that book---the mustache is terrifying.
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Dracomax wrote:you know what? screw this.
I'm writing in RKolter.
if we're gonna have someone able to use nukes in the white house, we should have someone who understands them.
That is so goddamn retarded that I can't even see straight. Even as a joke.
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Dreamaniaccomic wrote:My sister has gone completely gaga over McCain because of Palin. It drives me nuts, because she is completely tuning out whenever I point out Palin's numerous flaws. Hell, she even admitted that the main reason she was supporting McCain was because Palin was a woman D: . I seriously need to help her with her critical thinking skills.
Is she old enough to vote? If not, it can still be forgiven.

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