Movie Cliches We Love and Hate

Dr Legostar · Post by **Dr Legostar** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:44 am

grabmygoblin wrote:B5 kicks ass. I gotta get ahold of the new movie...

new... movie?

Yeahduff · Post by **Yeahduff** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:59 am

grabmygoblin wrote:B5 kicks ass.

Then it's unfortunate it didn't have a better spokesman that da- er, year.

Dracomax · Post by **Dracomax** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:46 am

the magic hacker thing is starting to annoy me. y'know, the hacker who can instantly and effortlessly hack into every system, including non-networked and firewalled systems, from his phone.

of course, the most egregious offender lately was die hard 4.

NakedElf · Post by **NakedElf** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:29 pm

I've seen much of B5. It does strike me as better than Star Trek, but it didn't really pull me in and inspire me to keep watching.

Grabmygoblin · Post by **Grabmygoblin** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:36 pm

yeahduff wrote:
grabmygoblin wrote:B5 kicks ass.
Then it's unfortunate it didn't have a better spokesman that da- er, year.

mrr?

legostargalactica wrote:new... movie?

B5: The Lost Tales

NakedElf wrote:I've seen much of B5. It does strike me as better than Star Trek, but it didn't really pull me in and inspire me to keep watching.

DS9 I rank higher, but B5 outstrips the other Star Trek series'. I love me my space opera!

Post by **Kisai** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:46 pm

I've never -actually- watched any of the startreks consistantly nor in chronological order. I think the closest I got was the first few episodes of Voyager and Enterprise. I haven't watched B5 or any of the other space operas other than Andromeda (also by Gene Roddenberry)

It's probably one of the more appealing genres, but I can't be bothered to record it from tv or buy it on dvd.

Adobedragon · Post by **Adobedragon** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:18 pm

NakedElf wrote:I've seen much of B5. It does strike me as better than Star Trek, but it didn't really pull me in and inspire me to keep watching.

I never really got Star Trek, probably because I'm too much of a cynic, and the whole "all humanity getting along, happy-happy-happy" future thing just doesn't work for me.

Season on of B5 starts of rather rough, but I really enjoyed everything up to season 5-ish. I lost interest with season 5.

Battlestar Galactica is pretty nifty.

Anyway, more of a pet peeve than a hated cliche,...but I hate the perpetually galloping horse. That is, where a horse (or horses) is galloped for days on end, often over barren dry land, without stop, without so much as breaking a sweat.

Per day, the average horse needs 8-12 gallons of water and 15-20 pounds of feed. So the animal would probably drop dead at the end of the journey. Or, if it were my rotten horse, punt his demanding rider into a cactus, and go off in search of food and water.

Yeahduff · Post by **Yeahduff** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:47 am

grabmygoblin wrote:
yeahduff wrote:
grabmygoblin wrote:B5 kicks ass.
Then it's unfortunate it didn't have a better spokesman that da- er, year.
mrr?

My experience with the series begins and ends with the afforementioned jackass never shutting the hell up about it all year. I'm sure it's good, but I'm already burned out on it and I've not seen a minute of it.

TheSuburbanLetdown · Post by **TheSuburbanLetdown** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:49 am

It's unfortunate when that happens. There are so many things that I unfairly dislike now because of the jerks that were obsessed with such things.

Czar · Post by **Czar** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:44 am

This thread needs more Farscape.

Dr Legostar · Post by **Dr Legostar** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:53 am

Czar wrote:This thread needs more Farscape.

god i loved that show, i was watching it as it aired from day one until the miniseries that wrapped it all up.

Rkolter · Post by **Rkolter** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:34 pm

Airlocks, meaning those for people (as opposed to say, cargo bays) that don't have the button for "suck all the air out of this room" on the inside of the airlock, bother me.

I mean, people chalk it up to manufacturer design or ignore it, but would you really ever build an airlock specifically designed so that the control for evacuating the air out (and possibly killing the people inside) is beyond the reach of the person in the airlock?

Or for that matter airlocks that don't have a duplicate button for "please oh god please fill this room with air" inside the airlock - what's up with that? Someone gets into the airlock and has to wait for the guy who is always alien-chow or blaster-fried to push the button to let them breathe. That's not a mistake of engineering - that's a lawsuit begging for a victim.

Brynnie-chan · Post by **Brynnie-chan** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:03 pm

Killbert-Robby wrote:I love killer shark movies. I've seen enough of Discovery to know that my chances of being eaten are lower than being killed on the way to the beach, but I still want to see more movies that say "fuck that, gonna bite you in half".

Heeheeheeheehee... You just brought back memories of that Jaws scene in Family Guy.

"Gonna eat that hairy leg... gonna eat that one too..."

As to the British villain thing... depends on who. For example, Anthony Hopkins = AWESOME British villain. Every Time. Whereas the stupid overaffected(sp?)-accent-type villain is just plain annoying. Like every single British anime villain.

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:27 pm

rkolter wrote:Airlocks, meaning those for people (as opposed to say, cargo bays) that don't have the button for "suck all the air out of this room" on the inside of the airlock, bother me.

I mean, people chalk it up to manufacturer design or ignore it, but would you really ever build an airlock specifically designed so that the control for evacuating the air out (and possibly killing the people inside) is beyond the reach of the person in the airlock?

Or for that matter airlocks that don't have a duplicate button for "please oh god please fill this room with air" inside the airlock - what's up with that? Someone gets into the airlock and has to wait for the guy who is always alien-chow or blaster-fried to push the button to let them breathe. That's not a mistake of engineering - that's a lawsuit begging for a victim.

Most of crap that bothers me about films can be quickly summed up with "characters acting stupid for no apparent reason". It's when characters are acting more or less stupid according to requirements of the plot, and not according to their characterisation. If there wasn't such thing, many films wouldn't last for more than 30 minutes, because in their bad scriptwriting, plots rely on that characters can't figure out one or few crucial things (despite being, for instance, rocket scientists, skilled adventurers or what have you) and all they need is to figure it out and film easily wraps up in five minutes. I guess you could ditch those cleverly designed vehicles under that stupidity syndrome.
Or you know like, when one character overhears something, misunderstands it and walks away believing in something without bothering to just ask, and then half an hour of film goes on resolving that misunderstanding.

Corgan_dane · Post by **Corgan_dane** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:14 pm

mcDuffies wrote: Or you know like, when one character overhears something, misunderstands it and walks away believing in something without bothering to just ask, and then half an hour of film goes on resolving that misunderstanding.

Yes. I'm so sick of movies (romantic comedies being the biggest culprits) where the girl or guy walks in to see their girl/guy in a compromising situation that is completely innocent...and instead of asking what's going on, they just assume the worst and run off, to be wooed back after a sad montage of walking and not sleeping well.

Ugh.

Killbert-Robby · Post by **Killbert-Robby** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:08 am

rkolter wrote:Airlocks, meaning those for people (as opposed to say, cargo bays) that don't have the button for "suck all the air out of this room" on the inside of the airlock, bother me.

I mean, people chalk it up to manufacturer design or ignore it, but would you really ever build an airlock specifically designed so that the control for evacuating the air out (and possibly killing the people inside) is beyond the reach of the person in the airlock?

Or for that matter airlocks that don't have a duplicate button for "please oh god please fill this room with air" inside the airlock - what's up with that? Someone gets into the airlock and has to wait for the guy who is always alien-chow or blaster-fried to push the button to let them breathe. That's not a mistake of engineering - that's a lawsuit begging for a victim.

I expected audible explosions in space to have been more your beef

Hmmm more stuff that annoys me has come to me. I'm a bit of a military-phile, so I know my guns and what not. So when I see some guy hold down the trigger on an uzi for example and he just spews forward bullets for ten minutes with a regular size clip annoys me. What annoys me way more than it should, however, is when they use the wrong guns. You know, going to fight some enemies in tight cramped quarters you bring the biggest and bulkiest gun available just because its big and bulky, and its all I can do to keep from screaming at the screen "What if someone comes up behind you

!?"

But I'm weird.

Joel Fagin · Post by **Joel Fagin** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:24 pm

AIs. AIs are always insane and want to kill everyone. I actually believe they should be creepy because they're alien life, but for once I'd like one to be creepy and on the good guy's side. A bit like how Bishop was handled in Aliens.

Oh, wait. He was an AI.

Well, I meant a big, anchored computer rather than an android.

Also, hacking AIs should be like telling someone to walk off a cliff. They just say "no". They're intelligent, after all. Computers are hackable because they're stupid.

On the hacker front, I have seen one super hacker I liked because she was a rogue android. She had the processing power and intimate understanding of computer necessary to crash through pretty much any computer system lower than her on the scale in a half millisecond.

She was, in this particular story, an massive exception. Androids don't go rogue as a rule. It was nice that she did and then didn't particularly want to kill everyone, just find a niche for herself.

- Joel Fagin

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:47 am

You know how when there's a female action hero and she's beating the crap out of some bad guy and then decides not to finish him off, but then he says something insulting like "bitch" or something, so she finishes him off anyway. I'd keep my mouth shut in such situation.

Dr Legostar · Post by **Dr Legostar** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:10 am

I'm very tired of the "i'm gonna beat the crap out of you, but i won't finish you off, cause that would make me no better than you," attitude of action heroes. No, you kill the bastard so he won't come back in the next movie! You just blew up a highway full of innocent civilians to get to this dumbass, you ARE no better than him, KILL HIM!

IVstudios · Post by **IVstudios** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:46 am

I enjoy the old 'retired' fighter/ninja guy ciche, a-la Obi wan Kenobi and Yoda and such characters. (There are ones outside of Star Wars, but they are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head)

The old 'You can't defeat me old man!' and then old guy kicks his ass, picks up his cane and hobbles away.