Goodbye, Everyone (maybe)

Shinyhugh · Post by **Shinyhugh** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:39 pm

I'm a paradoxical chaoist! I've no idea if that's a real word but let's make it one. I believe in chaos & order behind that chaos. Bwaha.

Warren · Post by **Warren** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:40 pm

Dreams wrote:i'm really not ready to qualify what i believe, other than, perhaps, forming my own cult. we're the dreams cult. join me, will you? we... um... believe everyone should have thier own frogs! and ... um.... we wear turbans, but only on fridays from noon until 1:37.

If I can wear a fedora instead, I'm in.

Christwriter · Post by **Christwriter** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:39 pm

*makes the sound of brain frying on overused barbeque*

WHAAAAAA???? I come back here to get my brain out of the HTML baking and...and...and...dha...ma...

What you've posted is either an extreamly scarcastic dig, you went to the WRONG Christian retreat, or you totally missed the point.

Christianity is not about restrictions. It's about realising that (1. There is a god (2. There is a set of laws with concequences for breaking those laws (3. Human beings are utterly incapable of following every law perfectly, which is what is required to be in God's presence, let alone be able to enteract with him and (4. God provided a way to forgive all the breaking of the laws if you are willing to accept the forgiveness. If you don't, you are judged according to the law and face the concequences. If you do, you are forgiven and Jesus--who is God--takes the concequences for you.

The part about giving up the bad stuff has little to NO effect on the IMPORTANT part of Christianity, which is Salvation by Grace (AKA accepting that Jesus will take your concequences if you let him and giving up the whole I-gotta-try-really-hard-to-be-good dead end) and a relationship with God. You either give it up because it screwes up your relationship with God, or because there's a really good chance it will either screw up your life or kill you. If it does neither, it's a gray area and is between you and God. The rule of thumb I live by is if you believe it's bad, it's bad, if you believe it's not bad, it's not bad, and if God tells you it's bad anyway, you stop doing it because He's got veto power.

And in case it's sarcastic (and before you shoot me, I know I'm probably the last person who SHOULD say this because of how badly I screwed up a couple months ago): Dude, grow up. Poking Christians because we're not perfect is like poking emus because they can't fly. If you want to go poke something for amusement go find an ant-hill. What I believe may look like superstitious, knee-jerk-reaction, unthinking crap to you, but I call it "the glue that keeps my sanity together" and I do not appreciate you spitting on it for fun. I repeat: Grow up.

alschroeder wrote:Good thing some other people were able to reconcile Christian belief with the urge to tell a story...
Like Tolkien....
C.S. Lewis....
Dorothy L. Sayers...
Orson Scott Card...
Dante....

Also Madeline L'Engle.

I would also add Tim Lahaye, Jerry B. Jenkens, Frank. E. Peretti and a woman who wrote a Narnia-ish allegory about children and a Swan kingdom named Joona (I forgot her name). The above three (LaHaye, Jenkens and Peretti) are more fundamentalist than most people like but all three can certainly turn a good story.

CW

Sput · Post by **Sput** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:11 pm

CW, you're the reason I still ave hope in humanity some days :)

Plothole · Post by **Plothole** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:33 pm

A tad offtopic, but this has been bugging me for a while:

Jesus--who is God--

Okay, how is he god if he's the son of god? I just don't get it...

*is honestly curious*

Sortelli · Post by **Sortelli** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:57 pm

It's the Holy Trinity. Different aspects of the whole.

God the Father creates the universe, God the Son lives life among humanity and shares in our suffering and painful mortality, God the Holy Spirit is like, the Force or something.

TheGoobla · Post by **TheGoobla** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:00 pm

If this is for real...

JBerserk, you are the best puritan ever.

No evangelizing, no condemnation, just a nice short, "Sorry, but I have go and burn my porn now."

Freaking awesome. I wish more cultists were like that.

If it's not for real...

Lame. I'm not particularly angry or anything, there's nothing really to be upset over. I just wish the sarcasm was a bit more witty or humorous or unique or something.

Try harder next gag. kthx.

Pillywiggin · Post by **Pillywiggin** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:04 pm

Sortelli wrote:God the Holy Spirit is like, the Force or something.

Sortelli · Post by **Sortelli** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:05 pm

I'm rather heartened that has been the biggest response, by the by, so put me down with Goob and the others.

If you mean it, have fun, if you're being screwy, BOO ON YOU.

Nyke · Post by **Nyke** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:05 pm

TheGoobla wrote:If this is for real...

JBerserk, you are the best puritan ever.

No evangelizing, no condemnation, just a nice short, "Sorry, but I have go and burn my porn now."

Freaking awesome. I wish more cultists were like that.

If it's not for real...

Lame. I'm not particularly angry or anything, there's nothing really to be upset over. I just wish the sarcasm was a bit more witty or humorous or unique or something.

Try harder next gag. kthx.

Goobla reflects my opinion quite nicely.
And insulting Christianity < insulting Scientology.

Ian Moulding · Post by **Ian Moulding** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:29 pm

christwriter wrote:(and before you shoot me, I know I'm probably the last person who SHOULD say this because of how badly I screwed up a couple months ago)

See, this is a perfect example of why everybody's jumping down JBerserk's throat here. Some people screw up and hurt people's feelings, then apologize for it. Other people make asses of themselves, then claim to have had visions on the road to Damascus and disappear. That being said, I'd like to apologize for not blasting JBerserk when he started badmouthing furries and 'emo kids'.

Mvmarcz · Post by **Mvmarcz** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:33 pm

look...My problem is that he's an ass....and he has been since he got here

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Mvmarcz · Post by **Mvmarcz** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:16 pm

also I'm positive what I said before is true...he's doing it to get attention...he's been in here at least twice today in the forums...not posting...but browsing

Sortelli · Post by **Sortelli** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:19 pm

We are temptation!!!!

Risky · Post by **Risky** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:31 pm

It's generally an idea I can get behind to burn your porn every now and again. I've been considering "taking a break" from the forums too, because it is really a source of sloth for me. Not that everything isn't, but it's hard to avoid checking the forums when I should be praying or drawing porn.

JBerserk · Post by **JBerserk** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:31 pm

Exactly. I "am" SERIOUS about my commitment to the Lord. Some of you guys just tihnk I am joking about this issue. I AM COMPLETELY SERIOUS ABOUT THIS! I AM NOT HOAXING OR JOKING OR WHATEVER. But thinking about it, it's no reason to give up on ComicGen (Keenspace or whatever). I just need to reduce my sinful actions by cutting off my porn. It messes up my relationship with God, because you can't go both ways. It's either the sinful way or the righteous way. I forgive anybody who called me an idiot or anything offensive. I am also sorry about that emo kid or furry hate, because now, I regret saying that. Also, I know that I am going to sin, but I know that God already forgave me for that. In other words:

QUIT PORNO! IT'S BAD! BAD! BAD! BAD!

If I offended anybody, I am sorry for that. It's really not my intention to get attention. But for now on, I should use my talent for the Lord.

IT SAYS (maybe), SO IM STEER CLEAR ON LEAVING.

War · Post by **War** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:35 pm

Aren't you dead yet?

Dr Legostar · Post by **Dr Legostar** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:37 pm

Sortelli wrote:God the Holy Spirit is like, the Force or something.

::tries to use the Holy Spirit to choke JBerserk::

Mvmarcz · Post by **Mvmarcz** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:37 pm

JBerserk wrote:Exactly. I "am" SERIOUS about my commitment to the Lord. Some of you guys just tihnk I am joking about this issue. I AM COMPLETELY SERIOUS ABOUT THIS! I AM NOT HOAXING OR JOKING OR WHATEVER. But thinking about it, it's no reason to give up on ComicGen (Keenspace or whatever). I just need to reduce my sinful actions by cutting off my porn. It messes up my relationship with God, because you can't go both ways. It's either the sinful way or the righteous way. I forgive anybody who called me an idiot or anything offensive. I am also sorry about that emo kid or furry hate, because now, I regret saying that. Also, I know that I am going to sin, but I know that God already forgave me for that. In other words:

QUIT PORNO! IT'S BAD! BAD! BAD! BAD!

If I offended anybody, I am sorry for that. It's really not my intention to get attention. But for now on, I should use my talent for the Lord.

IT SAYS (maybe), SO IM STEER CLEAR ON LEAVING.

Ok now I'm really mad at you...I'm a moral good person and you know what PORN PORN PORN I draw porn and I have sex.

And you don't have to "forgive me". Cause you are an idiot.

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