US political nonsense

[Grabmygoblin]

most likely, but there's a chance that Obama will pull well ahead between now and then from these later primaries.

[Phact0rri]

Obama kicked some ass yesterday. But in reality, at this point, it doesn't look like either him nor Clinton will get a majority of delegates. It'll come down to superdelegates, and it's gonna be painful.

Huckabee actually looking like a more likely VP candidate. Still think it a terrible idea (strategically, I mean, obviously someone who holds the bible over the constitution shouldn't be in government at all), but more and more buzz is generating around the idea. Guess I owe Boom an apology.

we all know the Colbert/stewart/o'brien ticket is what is giving him the edge.

Bear-bump... its all about the bear-bump.

[Legion of Boom]

Obama kicked some ass yesterday. But in reality, at this point, it doesn't look like either him nor Clinton will get a majority of delegates. It'll come down to superdelegates, and it's gonna be painful.

Huckabee actually looking like a more likely VP candidate. Still think it a terrible idea (strategically, I mean, obviously someone who holds the bible over the constitution shouldn't be in government at all), but more and more buzz is generating around the idea. Guess I owe Boom an apology.

No need to apologize! Ol' McCain will need all the help he can get especially in the economic department and the religious right. In all honesty, this is the craziest campaign year ever and it is only February. Unreal. I predict that it will be Obama vs. McCain. And in the final TV debate, just days before Election Day, the media mobs will take a screenshot showing McCain in some awkward facial expression with Obama standing tall and proud. The image will be plastered everywhere and that is what voters will think of when they vote. Like Nixon sweating at the first TV debate with Kennedy/Nixon. Just watch and see.

[KWill]

Well yeah. If you have terminal cancer, are you expecting the hospital to cure you? It's Terminal.

Not necessarily cure, but treat.

You don't treat terminal cancer.

Bad choice of words, perhaps, but what I meant was putting them on morphine and letting them die as comfortably as possible. My step-grandfather recently died of terminal cancer, so yes, I do know that the real treatments hurt quite a bit and can do more harm than good. Does healthcare pay for that? I find it kind of hypocritical for societies that don't allow "mercy-killing" to fail to provide legal framework for paying for a terminal patient's dying needs, if it can afford it.

[Jesusabdullah]

Is it just me, or are we wandering towards a euthanasia debate?

[KWill]

Shouldn't have to. The question whether a society that forbids euthanasia should provide a meaningful alternative is largely independent from the question whether euthanasia has merits or not.

[Yeahduff]

Is it just me, or are we wandering towards a euthanasia debate?

A euthanasia debate certainly would fall under "US Political Nonsense."

Obama sweeps the weekend. Clinton accepts her campaign manager's "resignation."

[Rkolter]

Obama sweeps the weekend. Clinton accepts her campaign manager's "resignation."

You forgot, "Obama inches into the lead in delegate count".

Yay! Whohoo! Ok ok, so Texas and Ohio are the big ones in March, and it'll still probably come down to the convention. But it's nice to see him in the lead.

[Yeahduff]

Correct, but I don't think that counts superdelegates, who could go either way, but are mostly in Clinton hands.

The Sun-Times today had a line saying something to the effect of, "Everytime you hear the word 'superdelegates,' replace it with the words 'party bigwigs in backrooms,' and you'll get a more accurate account of the story."

[Legion of Boom]

Still too close to call. Obama has 42% of the delegates and Billary has 41%. It's all going to be decided by an eskimo in the Alaska delegation at the last day of the convention.

[Grabmygoblin]

so my mom was trying to explain the slight positive aspects of the superdelegate system, mainly that if it were revealed near the end of the primary race that the leading candidate were a child molester or something that the party could still nominate an alternative viable candidate.

I think what she meant to say was that in 1968 RFK was shot and killed, LBJ said he wouldn't run, leaving no real opposition to Nixon.

I call bullshit on that, while RFK I think was going to be the nominee and would have easily won against Nixon, Eugene McCarthy and Hubert Humphrey were also viable candidates, and Humphrey lost by a narrow vote to Nixon.

the current superdelegate system is just machine politics applied to the national stage. you want to win, you have to make promises to corrupt party officials who are understandably drunk on a disturbing amount of power we've given them.

what's ironic is that we've come full circle since 1968; originally, the idea of the superdelegate system was actually to prevent party bosses from controlling the primary, although I don't see how they possibly thought that would work.

I like my governor, but he shouldn't have this much say on national politics. and SHELDON FREAKING SILVER?! you give special say to SHELDON FREAKING SILVER?!

I'll have to go look it up, but I now wonder if Fred Phelps once held superdelegate status. I keep reading these articles that link Gore's 1992 and earlier runs to Phelps, but they're skimpy on the details, like what kind of power Phelps controlled in the first place... I think conservapedia actually has an article on this, giving you an idea of the kind of sludge that has to be dug through to get at the facts.


bleah. anyway, /rantoff

[Jesusabdullah]

Still too close to call. Obama has 42% of the delegates and Billary has 41%. It's all going to be decided by an eskimo in the Alaska delegation at the last day of the convention.

Obama got like 75% of the democrat vote here.

[Legion of Boom]

Still too close to call. Obama has 42% of the delegates and Billary has 41%. It's all going to be decided by an eskimo in the Alaska delegation at the last day of the convention.

Obama got like 75% of the democrat vote here.

I was a jokin' my friend. Not really going to be decided by an Eskimo. Feel free to use any state as they will all have to re-vote if it goes to convention.

[Jesusabdullah]

Your avatar makes me read everything you type in a completely different way than I would otherwise.

[Enedlammeniel]

Your avatar makes me read everything you type in a completely different way than I would otherwise.

Yes, I am also experiencing this.

[Legion of Boom]

Your avatar makes me read everything you type in a completely different way than I would otherwise.

Yes, I am also experiencing this.

Ahhhh...gotcha. What I should have said was me and the boys will make an offer the Eskimo can't refuse. Otherwise, he sleeps with the fishes.

[KWill]

so my mom was trying to explain the slight positive aspects of the superdelegate system, mainly that if it were revealed near the end of the primary race that the leading candidate were a child molester or something that the party could still nominate an alternative viable candidate.

Or someone like Huey Long.

[Legion of Boom]

How's this self-portrait caricature?

[TheSuburbanLetdown]

It's tubular, man. To use the parlance of the early 90's.

[Col]

I could see Huckabee getting a VP nod from McCain, if they want to win. Evangelists are what helped Bush win in a big way last election.