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And after you go on the breaking rage, eat some gummy vitamins, and drink some hot green tea with honey and lemon in it!
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tea has been my main sustenence lately. that and rice with seaweed soup, heh. and actually tea with lemon is bad for you, or something. my dad rants at me about it. XD

oh man ryan that plate thing is awfully tempting >__> i may just go punch something instead. argh.

ps i might have strep. if i do i'll get a call in a few hours, or somethins.
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*sigh* Okay, here we go...

Some of you may remember my problems last year with us losing our house and moving in with my grandma. Life's not done fucking me up the ass yet, I guess, because we're back in the exact same situation.

We owe $400 on our house payment, and we're hearing rumors about the people we're buying from trying legal trickery to get us thrown out. $400 may not sound like much, but it's a lot for us, when we can barely make ends meet. If Mom makes her car payment and gives grandma $200 out of the next paycheck, that leaves us with $40 to live two weeks on. I need a job so I can help, but it seems so hopeless in my situation, living 30 miles from anywhere and having no driver's license.

I keep trying to help by making a budget, but all I ever hear is, "Can't budget what you don't have." which pisses me off so fucking much. They won't even try it because they're so fucking sure it won't do any good. We went to town today to do laundry, and price groceries to find the best prices. I said to mom before we went in, "Let's set down a limit of $10 for today, just enough for breakfast tomorrow." so we go in and what does mom do? She buys popcorn, effectively shitting on the $10 limit.

I think tomorrow, I'll try that plate thing Kolter suggested. It's better than punching a hole in the wall (Which I almost did).
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Man, rock...I have no idea what to tell you on this one except what Jim always tells me when we're behind on bills or overdrawn at the bank, and that's just to stick with it and it'll all turn out okay somehow. And it usually does, if only for a little while.
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It sounds like you're in a rural area. The only thing that comes to mind is to try for a job that covers room and board, possibly in town. The pay is usually bad, but it's some cash on top of taking care of your basic needs.

As for budgeting, next time you go into town have a list ready (I.E. - Bread, milk eggs) with the prices listed and totaled (Bread $2.00, milk $2.20, eggs $2.80; Total $7.00). Whether they want to budget or not. Then ask your mom if she wants to use the last $3.00 to buy fruit or popcorn or soup or whatever.

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I did that plate thing. It was all right, but I mostly feel like I wasted a plate :(
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Hm. Well my financial problems look pretty insignificant now, since they seem to revolve around me worrying about not being able to take Zwuh on the holidays he'd like (and staying in the places he'd like, bleehhhh). :/

I've been poor in the living-out-of-bins and begging-on-the-street kind of way, and there are a lot of things you can do - there are many charity organisations which should be able to offer you food or that kind of thing, maybe you shoudl go for a walk and check them out. I know in Australia you could get free meals every day if you knew where to go.

Really Rock I'm sorry I haven't been able to help you more with work searching, even just encouraging you... It's a shame there's nothing for you, even labourer jobs would be great if you don't have any licenses (one of my ex bfs did that). If there's anything I can do to counsel/help you with that please tell me... Also are you old enough to apply for welfare? Are there jobsearching centres near you? And can you volunteer to work for a charity atm? (Especially a food based one). That might help you in getting jobs AND in getting foods.

Budgeting really does help though. So does having a better-off SO. (A string of rich-as-cresote partners is what basically got me out of my rut and into becoming a fully functional member of society). Good luck on pushing that budget although I think you'll have more luck trying to enforce that shit when you're contributing money.
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rock_dash wrote:*sigh* Okay, here we go...

Some of you may remember my problems last year with us losing our house and moving in with my grandma. Life's not done fucking me up the ass yet, I guess, because we're back in the exact same situation.

We owe $400 on our house payment, and we're hearing rumors about the people we're buying from trying legal trickery to get us thrown out. $400 may not sound like much, but it's a lot for us, when we can barely make ends meet. If Mom makes her car payment and gives grandma $200 out of the next paycheck, that leaves us with $40 to live two weeks on. I need a job so I can help, but it seems so hopeless in my situation, living 30 miles from anywhere and having no driver's license.

I keep trying to help by making a budget, but all I ever hear is, "Can't budget what you don't have." which pisses me off so fucking much. They won't even try it because they're so fucking sure it won't do any good. We went to town today to do laundry, and price groceries to find the best prices. I said to mom before we went in, "Let's set down a limit of $10 for today, just enough for breakfast tomorrow." so we go in and what does mom do? She buys popcorn, effectively shitting on the $10 limit.

I think tomorrow, I'll try that plate thing Kolter suggested. It's better than punching a hole in the wall (Which I almost did).
*hugs rock*

If I knew how to get out of this kind of mess, I'd be able to help you. All I really can do is offer sympathy, becuase I HATE living like that (...though I should say "this").

It sucks so much. So...

*hugs rock more.*

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Man, Rock, that sucks. I'm currently pissed off with the entire concept of currency, so I feel for you there.

My woes are because of the Student Loan Company, who didn't tell me for a month that they aren't gonna give me a loan to do my uni course, cause they just changed the rules about doing seconddegrees this year. I've already signed up to my course, and now I need to produce £3000 from the air as if by magic! Wheeee
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Okay, this was back on page 3 by now, but I didn't feel like making a whole new thread just to whine about stuff.

Work...it pretty much just sucks. The funny thing is, I would like my job if it weren't for the two girls I work with. I'd never done this kind of work before, and I had to learn a LOT of stuff very very quickly. So at first I screwed up a lot. And they treated me like a real imcompetent idiot whenever I did, which had the effect of making me feel like I really was one.

I found out that it wasn't just me, though. Around the same time I started this job, they hired another girl to work there part time. They did the same thing to her, and she quit shortly thereafter, because she just didn't want to put up with it anymore. That made me feel a little better, knowing that it wasn't just me (hell, she'd been a lawyer in two different countries, so I know she wasn't the idiot that they treated her like), and I thought, "Okay, I've been trying to get a job like this for three years; I can put up with this, or ignore it, or something."

Now, it's a couple months later. And it's usually a little better. When whoever I'm working with is in a good mood, and I don't do anything wrong, it's just fine. But I feel like I'm walking on eggshells, because they take little things so seriously, and I'm scared of doing something wrong yet again.

For example, take yesterday. I got to work and found a note from the bossgirl which started out, "You are getting into a very bad habit which is making quick enemies." You wanna know what the habit was? I'd been taking the white shirts out of the dryer at about 1:20, and hanging them over the back of a chair so it would be easier for the other girl to iron them when she came back from lunch. Then I would leave at 1:25, drive up to the front of the building, and clock out. Apparently though, I should've stayed until 1:30 on the dot and ironed as many of the shirts as I could. I didn't think that not ironing one or two shirts was a big deal. Guess I was wrong. Oh, and part of the note said that I've been leaving 5-10 minutes early. 5, yes. Never 10, though. For one thing, it would say that I had clocked out at 1:15 if I left then, and I need the hours.

Another thing about yesterday. During the show, whenever there's nothing for me to do, I try to stay out of the way. So yesterday during the first half I was sitting in one of the prop chairs, and everything was going fine, right? Apparently not. One of the dancers had lost the necktie he needed for "My Fair Lady" and didn't bother to tell me about it. But he did happen to mention it to the other girl, who came over to me and said in a very bitchy way, "You need to get up and look for Barry's tie." Well hell, I would've been...if I'd KNOWN about it!!! How can I possibly be looking for something that I didn't know was missing in the first place???

And at the end of the show, she came up and said something about a jacket with a hanger, etc, I don't remember exactly. But the gist of it was, "You did this wrong." And the jacket wasn't even something that I had anything to do with! So when I went downstairs, I asked her, "Am I supposed to be getting that jacket now? And if so, when?" Then she realized that, "Oh yeah, you don't do anything with that one, it must've been one of the dancers." she said sorry, but then she turned it into an insult against me anyway, saying, "Well since it was just thrown over on a pile of dirty clothes like you always do when there's no hanger, I assumed it was you." For one thing, I've never thrown one of his jackets over a pile like that. In fact, the time the hanger was missing, I actually went in the other dressing room and gave her the jacket personally so that it wouldn't just be tossed around. I don't know, maybe the girl that quit used to do that and she remembered it as me doing it? Either way, it doesn't justify her behaviour.

And when I do screw things up, they don't have to be so bitchy about it! I'm damn sick of it, and not sure exactly what to do. If I just ignore it like I have been, it'll keep on. But if I confront them about it, I'll just get into a big fight and most likely get fired.

Anyway, gotta go to work now. Today I plan to just not mention yesterday, and maybe it'll be okay. :P
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Kat North wrote:Okay, this was back on page 3 by now, but I didn't feel like making a whole new thread just to whine about stuff.

Work...it pretty much just sucks. The funny thing is, I would like my job if it weren't for the two girls I work with. I'd never done this kind of work before, and I had to learn a LOT of stuff very very quickly. So at first I screwed up a lot. And they treated me like a real imcompetent idiot whenever I did, which had the effect of making me feel like I really was one.

I found out that it wasn't just me, though. Around the same time I started this job, they hired another girl to work there part time. They did the same thing to her, and she quit shortly thereafter, because she just didn't want to put up with it anymore. That made me feel a little better, knowing that it wasn't just me (hell, she'd been a lawyer in two different countries, so I know she wasn't the idiot that they treated her like), and I thought, "Okay, I've been trying to get a job like this for three years; I can put up with this, or ignore it, or something."

Now, it's a couple months later. And it's usually a little better. When whoever I'm working with is in a good mood, and I don't do anything wrong, it's just fine. But I feel like I'm walking on eggshells, because they take little things so seriously, and I'm scared of doing something wrong yet again.

For example, take yesterday. I got to work and found a note from the bossgirl which started out, "You are getting into a very bad habit which is making quick enemies." You wanna know what the habit was? I'd been taking the white shirts out of the dryer at about 1:20, and hanging them over the back of a chair so it would be easier for the other girl to iron them when she came back from lunch. Then I would leave at 1:25, drive up to the front of the building, and clock out. Apparently though, I should've stayed until 1:30 on the dot and ironed as many of the shirts as I could. I didn't think that not ironing one or two shirts was a big deal. Guess I was wrong. Oh, and part of the note said that I've been leaving 5-10 minutes early. 5, yes. Never 10, though. For one thing, it would say that I had clocked out at 1:15 if I left then, and I need the hours.

Another thing about yesterday. During the show, whenever there's nothing for me to do, I try to stay out of the way. So yesterday during the first half I was sitting in one of the prop chairs, and everything was going fine, right? Apparently not. One of the dancers had lost the necktie he needed for "My Fair Lady" and didn't bother to tell me about it. But he did happen to mention it to the other girl, who came over to me and said in a very bitchy way, "You need to get up and look for Barry's tie." Well hell, I would've been...if I'd KNOWN about it!!! How can I possibly be looking for something that I didn't know was missing in the first place???

And at the end of the show, she came up and said something about a jacket with a hanger, etc, I don't remember exactly. But the gist of it was, "You did this wrong." And the jacket wasn't even something that I had anything to do with! So when I went downstairs, I asked her, "Am I supposed to be getting that jacket now? And if so, when?" Then she realized that, "Oh yeah, you don't do anything with that one, it must've been one of the dancers." she said sorry, but then she turned it into an insult against me anyway, saying, "Well since it was just thrown over on a pile of dirty clothes like you always do when there's no hanger, I assumed it was you." For one thing, I've never thrown one of his jackets over a pile like that. In fact, the time the hanger was missing, I actually went in the other dressing room and gave her the jacket personally so that it wouldn't just be tossed around. I don't know, maybe the girl that quit used to do that and she remembered it as me doing it? Either way, it doesn't justify her behaviour.

And when I do screw things up, they don't have to be so bitchy about it! I'm damn sick of it, and not sure exactly what to do. If I just ignore it like I have been, it'll keep on. But if I confront them about it, I'll just get into a big fight and most likely get fired.

Anyway, gotta go to work now. Today I plan to just not mention yesterday, and maybe it'll be okay. :P
Have you tried talking to your boss aboiut it? I dunno...the same thing used to happen to me, but it was my boss rather than the coworkers, so there wasn't anyone I could go to. Either way, it sounds like you've worked really hard to get this job, so don't let a couple of snotty bitches spoil it for you!

Maybe Kolter could give you some advice for dealing with them? :twisted:
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rock_dash wrote: Maybe Kolter could give you some advice for dealing with them? :twisted:
All my advice would get Kat fired. And if she wants another job somewhat like this one at a better place, it would be best if she not get fired.

Tough call Kat. I wouldn't stay there myself. A job takes up a good portion of your life, while you work it. If you are unhappy during that good portion of your life, there is an excellent chance there is another job out there you will not be unhappy at.
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rock_dash wrote:Have you tried talking to your boss aboiut it?
One of the two girls I was talking about IS the boss. And she's the worst one. Even the boss of the dancers took part of her own laundry home one day because she forgot to put it in with the rest, and didn't want to get yelled at. Anyway, it was the other girl who did it the other day, and I think that this time she just wasn't feeling well, and was taking it out on me...which is by no means an excuse for her behaviour.

As for staying there...I don't remember if I've already said this or not, but it's HARD to get a job backstage anywhere in this town. I'd been trying for three years, and it was only a fluke that I got this one. I at least want to stay until I learn how to sew better so that I can truthfully say that I have the experience if I ever want to look for another job in wardrobe anywhere.
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Kat North wrote:
rock_dash wrote:Have you tried talking to your boss aboiut it?
One of the two girls I was talking about IS the boss. And she's the worst one. Even the boss of the dancers took part of her own laundry home one day because she forgot to put it in with the rest, and didn't want to get yelled at. Anyway, it was the other girl who did it the other day, and I think that this time she just wasn't feeling well, and was taking it out on me...which is by no means an excuse for her behaviour.

As for staying there...I don't remember if I've already said this or not, but it's HARD to get a job backstage anywhere in this town. I'd been trying for three years, and it was only a fluke that I got this one. I at least want to stay until I learn how to sew better so that I can truthfully say that I have the experience if I ever want to look for another job in wardrobe anywhere.
Ack, why is it always the boss that has to be an asshole? :ick:

Sorry to hear that, Kat. I guess all you can do is stick with it, and maybe apply to other places while you work there. It'll get better though, I have no doubt. :)
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Kat North wrote:As for staying there...I don't remember if I've already said this or not, but it's HARD to get a job backstage anywhere in this town. I'd been trying for three years, and it was only a fluke that I got this one. I at least want to stay until I learn how to sew better so that I can truthfully say that I have the experience if I ever want to look for another job in wardrobe anywhere.
If it's hard to get a backstage job, I'm guessing it's because the local market is small. Which means that most people in that market know that your boss is an obnoxious bully. Get your experience, make some industry contacts, and your next job should be considerably easier to find.

In the meantime, look around for some practical advice on how to deal with bullies at work. The internet and library careers section are good places to start.

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Kat North wrote:As for staying there...I don't remember if I've already said this or not, but it's HARD to get a job backstage anywhere in this town. I'd been trying for three years, and it was only a fluke that I got this one. I at least want to stay until I learn how to sew better so that I can truthfully say that I have the experience if I ever want to look for another job in wardrobe anywhere.
This is why I'm not offering Kat any advice. I remember her mentioning how excited she was to get the job in the first place. :-?
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rkolter wrote:This is why I'm not offering Kat any advice. I remember her mentioning how excited she was to get the job in the first place. :-?
Yep. Anyway, I wasn't down there today, I was up in the gift shop (Which is another story entirely...damn soap opera of a theatre I work at :roll:) but yesterday went all right, and I'm down there tomorrow, with the boss...so we'll see what happens. As it stands right now, I'm halfway expecting to get yelled at for a vest that I fixed the other day, or the tie that the guy apparently never did find. (However, if that happens, I might just point out, "Hey, the other girl poured Shout into the steamer the other day...did you yell at her?) :P
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I'm off to a psychotherapist and boarding school for reasons I won't go into... I know its not really a vent, but here's probably the only place I can say it without being labeled a freak :P
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Killbert-Robby wrote:I'm off to a psychotherapist and boarding school for reasons I won't go into... I know its not really a vent, but here's probably the only place I can say it without being labeled a freak :P
...freak.

Hey, better to hear it from me than one of these other loons. :shifty:

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