Why. This is not worth it.

MikeCody · Post by **MikeCody** » Thu Feb 08, 2001 3:23 am

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PeopleforGoodComics · Post by **PeopleforGoodComics** » Thu Feb 08, 2001 3:42 am

Very mature, aren't we? It's so nice to see people here are so eloquint.[This message has been edited by PeopleforGoodComics (edited 02-08-2001).]

Brian Young · Post by **Brian Young** » Thu Feb 08, 2001 3:56 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by PeopleforGoodComics:
This is my own opinion. I felt like posting this simply because I was so mad. This is not a threat in any way, but I was urged to post this.
-People for Decent Comics
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I appreciate all types of feedback. Thank you for sharing your honest opinions. My comments will follow. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by PeopleforGoodComics:

I couldn

PeopleforGoodComics · Post by **PeopleforGoodComics** » Thu Feb 08, 2001 4:29 am

Very well said. I concede, I make no comments on your life itself, only the comic. I never said I was an english major, either, (hardly (I'm a history teacher), I meant the idea of keeping steady pace is a necessary when recounting a story, whether it is a literally masterpiece or not). Gomen nasai if I have completely offended you, but I felt I should be heard. After all, one should be able to take all critism with eloquence, or we are not better than homo sapiens. We are, after all, homo sapiens sapiens, supposedly the most intelligent species on the planet. Many beg to differ but I digress.Uchuu ni wa baka ga oosugiru.[This message has been edited by PeopleforGoodComics (edited 02-08-2001).]

PeopleforGoodComics · Thu Feb 08, 2001 12:10 pm

This is my own opinion. I felt like posting this simply because I was so mad. This is not a threat in any way, but I was urged to post this.
-People for Decent ComicsI couldn

Rin_desu · Post by **Rin_desu** » Fri Feb 09, 2001 3:10 am

wow. nice flaming.
nine out of ten fag-based comics (or literature) make out the same stereotypes you proclaim to stand against, personforgoodcomics. i appreciate what you have to say, but stereotypes exist for a reason: because they're based (however briefly) in fact.
i don't conform to many of the stereotypes of gay men. i don't swish, and i don't lisp, and i don't dwell on the delusion that every boy is going to want me, straight or gay. i'm not a vegetarian, i don't like sara brightman, and pink triangles can come up and kiss my rosy white ass.
all that said, i do like to screw boys, and i like to suck dick. i like motorcycles and german cars; i shoot pistols. i read military history, science fiction, and anthropology. i like classical and electronic music because i find many parallels within the two, stylistically.
brian's comic and experience is his and his alone. whether it's cathartic self-expression, or just some sort of fantasy played out on the web for all to see (and post commentary regarding), it still remains his.
i will argue that this strip *is* art for the simple reason that it caused a reaction as vehemently opposed as this. art should cause this reaction, and i would say that the combinations of brian's words and pictures, being at least a reflection, if not a direct image, of his soul. this is the very core of art, and was the essence of the images painted by such greats as davinci and van gogh. art should evoke reaction or emotion--positive or negative, and i would say that, at the very least, brian accomplished this and deserves recognition for it.of course, these are my opinions and only my own. and if you want good computer art, you spend more than ten minutes sketching it. you draw it on paper and scan it in, not play for twenty minutes with corel draw and then hit "send"... fuck it if it's dodgy lines... if you can recognize it after a 2 second glance, it's good enough to get the message across... and not everyone has broadband internet access to download uber-huge files on bandwidth-wastes such as online comics...
but i love them, so i'll continue reading. all negative comments aside. =)[postscript to sandra delete: this rant is *your* fault. you put this board link on your front page, and it was the first i saw so i clicked on it. now i'm an addict. damn you and your saucy comics! damn them all to hell]
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Raven · Post by **Raven** » Fri Feb 09, 2001 8:45 am

This really does hit on a larger issue. How should the GLB community be shown in art (comix, tv, movies, books)?Anybody remember Sharon Stone as an Icepick wielding killer bisexual? People had a fit over that.Brian hits the nail on the head. This comic is not created to be the mouthpiece for the larger community. Instead it follows the life of a gay individual. Honestly, following the reality of a single individual is much more meaningful than hearing someone try to speak in such general terms that they totally miss me.We must be careful of a style of censorship and anglocentrism that can form when we think that there is a particular way of showing a gay character. What it means to be gay in an all straight enviroment with no support is not the same as what is means to be gay in a place where your sexuality is not as important as your race, or your gender.The point being, our personal stuggles as individuals are much more important. When they are shown through art they will resonate strongly with some, and not with others. It's because we are all so different, and yet have so many touching point.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Sat Feb 10, 2001 1:06 am

Hey brian, I hear you.
I'm Mexican (US citizen) and have had many more problems based on that then being gay. I even end up breaking up with little-white-activist-boy because he saw the gay thing as the only thing and didn't have a clue that I felt being pulled over for a DWB (driving while brown) was a much bigger deal.

Remy_bishounen · Post by **Remy_bishounen** » Sat Feb 10, 2001 2:20 am

Well Brian is completelly correct on what he said, he is rigth about what he explained about his comic being only telling the story of a single boy... But! tha guy from the decent comics was also rigth, you know, even if there

Brian Young · Post by **Brian Young** » Sat Feb 10, 2001 12:51 pm

I think that while being gay is part of the comic, this isn't a comic about the "gay point of view". It's about one persons point of view. I've actually faced more stereotypes and problems with being Asian than being gay. It sometimes seems that people feel like it's still okay to completely stereotype Asians. Many many people simply find it unbelievable that I was born in America, only speak English, don't have an accent and don't know at least one form of martial arts! It's horrible that many people cannot consider someone of Asian descent a true American.------------------
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