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Postby Netrek on Sat Oct 26, 2002 5:52 am

Can someone tell me how to make a background that doesn't:

a) Suck,

b) Make JTPokie pass out, or

c) blur the text?

I'm runnin' out of ideas here!

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Postby Taiwanimation on Sat Oct 26, 2002 1:28 pm

Speech bubbles do a lot to keep backgrounds from blurring text.

If you draw lines, don't connect them to the characters themselves. That keeps the foreground/background distincition with a ring of space.

Practice doing backgrounds.

If using color, make sure the lines are thick enough so you can tell character from background.

This being what i do, at lest.
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Postby Seven3 on Sat Oct 26, 2002 4:20 pm

    Here's what I've seen work:
  • Use low contrast backgounds so that the focus is on the characters and not them.
  • Put more detail in the first main panel to set the scene
  • Subtle gradient fills can help give a sense of depth, but will increase your file sizes, I'll let you determine the level of compromise.
May I make a suggestion? The one thing that'll really improve you art is getting rid of the grey specks along your lines. There's several ways of doing this, from adjusting your curves to playing with threshold levels.
The way that works for me is to scan in B/W at a high a resolution as your computer can handle, color (and add text), then scale the image back down to the size that it should be.

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The second was scanned at 150.dpi and scaled back by 50% after coloring, anti-aliasing (smoothing the rough edges of) him somewhat.
The third at 300dpi (all my old system could cope with) and scaled by 25%looks even better.

If you're like me and can't afford a high-end program like Paintshop Pro or Photoshop for this, may I recomend GIMP?
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Postby Taiwanimation on Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:32 pm

In most cases 300 dpi is more than enough. 150 is fine as long as your lines aren't too thin.

An alternate method depending on your style, is to scan at very high resolution (600 or more) using Black and White only.
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Postby Netrek on Mon Oct 28, 2002 5:58 am

Uhmm . . . I was talking about for the site. :) But thanx anyway! That info should help, too.

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Postby JTPokie on Tue Oct 29, 2002 2:08 pm

Thanks for taking my health into concideration! :D

You could try just using a color. No one said u need a background image. That would decrease loading time as well.

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Postby Netrek on Tue Oct 29, 2002 2:36 pm

That's another thing to consider: What sort of color? I'm thinking some kind of blue or gray. What do you think? Opinions are valued - I think :)

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Postby JTPokie on Tue Oct 29, 2002 3:03 pm

Something nutral.. allow the reader to focus on the comic.

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Postby Netrek on Tue Oct 29, 2002 3:06 pm

So . . . grey, then?

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Postby JTPokie on Tue Oct 29, 2002 3:08 pm

You need to coordinate all the colors on your site...

Background, text, link buttons.. all of it needs to work together.

All should be easy on the eye and make reading all text easy...

try a few combos and see what works best.

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Postby Netrek on Tue Oct 29, 2002 3:19 pm

Thanx, I'll work on it. Y'know, before I found out how bad MS Word was, I had a pretty nifty color scheme going with that . . . maybe I'll dig out some of those old colors.

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Postby Netrek on Fri Nov 01, 2002 6:58 pm

Okay! I have a new color scheme, insult away! (granted it's only on the index and archives, but I'm working on the rest)

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Postby Seven3 on Fri Nov 01, 2002 7:30 pm

Hmmm.... don't take this personally, but I think you need some SLUGS. :)
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Postby Netrek on Fri Nov 01, 2002 7:39 pm

Just downloaded it; will try.

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Postby Taiwanimation on Sat Nov 02, 2002 12:49 pm

dont use gray, its too blah for a comic site.

Use a subtle shade of a color.
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Postby Netrek on Mon Nov 04, 2002 7:18 am

Ahh, yes . . . subtle colors . . . because my comic is [sarcasm]all about subtlety[/sarcasm] . . . now if only I had taken an art class and knew what that meant . . . <code>[img src="me looking very embarrassed"]</code> (sigh)

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