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Posted: Thu May 31, 2001 1:19 am
by ZOMBIE USER 1887
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Ya know, some of the older strips are just plain creepy looking.
WTF is with Jackies face in the last two pannels?!?!<P>------------------
Posted: Thu May 31, 2001 6:24 am
by Aleoi
I dunno. I'd expect earlier stuff to look diffrent. He was prolly still working out the look back then.<P>------------------
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2001 6:27 am
by Joshnickerson
Geeep! That is creepy! Jackie looks like an ant-eater from the side! The characters in the old strips look pretty normal when you view them from the front or from 3/4 view, but from the side..... ::shudder::
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2001 6:36 am
by Allan_ecker
Let ya in on a little secret. The good artists are just the ones who didn't stop after drawing stuff that looked bad.<P> <IMG SRC="
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2001 7:56 am
by Zodo
It's just the way BJ drew them a few years ago. Most artists develop their style constantly. Jackie evolved from what you see above into what you see today over time.<P>Personally I don't think that's all that bad. Far better than I could do, and still better than a lot of the shlock on the web today.<P>-Zodo
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2001 9:37 am
by Allan_ecker
Huh huh, you said <a href="http://schlock.keenspace.com">"Schlock"</a>, huh huh.
Posted: Thu May 31, 2001 10:30 am
by ZOMBIE USER 1887
"stylistically cohesive"?!?!<P>In the last two frames she looks like some sort of evil horse demon!
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2001 5:13 am
by Allan_ecker
Yeah, I know what you mean:
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2001 7:46 am
by Imp
When BJ first started doing the strip, I remember he deliberately wanted to play with giving the characters the muzzles/snouts you see in the early strips. His WR characters from the same era didn't have this feature. It was one of the features he was experimenting with, along with bigger eyes than the WR characters, and a semi super-deformed look. <P>So, the muzzle wasn't so much a drawing error as it was a failed experiment.<P>--Imp<P>------------------
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2001 11:19 am
by KathleenJ
I think everybody's got their early stuff that looks a little bizarre by comparison. whenever i pull out some of my drawings from years ago i can't help but wonder <I>what</I> i was thinking. and of course everything seems like a great idea at the time. <P>------------------
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2001 2:36 am
by Michael Martin
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Imp:
<B>and a semi super-deformed look.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>So, is that simply "deformed", or "quasi-deformed", or "slightly deformed", or "kinda deformed" or what?<P>(yes, yes, I'm aware that 'super-deformed' is a style designation. But 'semi-super' sounds funny enough that it's worth making wild guesses.)<P>------------------
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2001 2:45 am
by Joshnickerson
IGN.com's anime section occasionally does a "Anime Glossary" segment. You could probably find something there.
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2001 6:46 am
by Imp
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
Originally posted by Michael Martin:
So, is that simply "deformed", or "quasi-deformed", or "slightly deformed", or "kinda deformed" or what?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You know, I think I once knew a term that described the "somewhere in between normal manga style and super-deformed style", but it fell out of my head at some point.<P>So, anyone want to help invent a new term to fill the gap. <P>BJ did once do an actual SD Jackie for a poster once. Kawaii ^_^<P>--Imp<P>------------------
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2001 4:43 am
by Brian Young
I think perhaps BJ intended Jackie and her friends to be the kangaroo people whom we all remember sneaking into our cookies at night.
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2001 5:12 am
by ZOMBIE USER 1887
With massive, black, SOULLESS EYES!!!!
*curls up into fetal position on floor*
The horror...
The horror...
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2001 3:34 am
by BJ
Sneaking INTO the cookies? Or sneaking into the kitchen and RAIDING the cookies?<P>Imp's got it on the head. The snout design was a failed attempt to find a human-heavy animal kinda design. Thing. *ahem*<P>Compared to the stuff I'm doing now, the early JF stuff does look kinda' freaky, and I'm glad I evolved in this direction. I've also drifted a little farther away from the "chan" style I was striving for then.<P>Hm. Gotta find that SD Jackie.<P>------------------
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