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Postby Karva on Tue Jul 11, 2000 7:02 am

I really like the comic. It makes me laugh, which is a good thing, mind you.<P>I enjoy the Ada character, and I hope she remains a major player in the comic. I too enjoy Worchesshire... Worchester... Worshister... However you spell that.<P>"I'm designed to <I>make</I> ice, not break it."<P>*Laughs*<P>Classic.<P>------------------
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Postby BJ on Wed Jul 12, 2000 2:35 am

Hey Arisha, thanx for liking my little thing I do. About the annotations, I'm a little behind, but I have them written. I just keep forgetting to bring the disk with me (I don't have a computer, so I have to do all this at work (!!), which means I usually stay after work waaaay too long).<P>As soon as I send the new annotations to Shannon, he'll put them up on the archives. We like Shannon. We also like Shannon's cat, Anna.<P>--BJ
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Postby BJ on Wed Jul 12, 2000 4:10 am

By the way, Karva...<P>I do have an iguana. His name is Ash (NOT Pokemon) and he's a brat. Guess which Ash he's named after, and win an impressed raise of the eyebrow.<P>--BJ<P>------------------
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Postby Karva on Wed Jul 12, 2000 5:31 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BJ:
<B>By the way, Karva...<P>I do have an iguana. His name is Ash (NOT Pokemon) and he's a brat. Guess which Ash he's named after, and win an impressed raise of the eyebrow.<P>--BJ<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Oh... That guy from that movie... I forget what it's called. Evil Dead... Uh... Army of Darkness? <P>Is that right?<P>...<P>Anyway, I used to have an iguana too, but he died. He died from calcium deficiency, of all things. It was sad because he was my best friend, but I'm over it.
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Postby Jackiesfridge on Wed Jul 12, 2000 7:00 am

Two thumbs up! Cool! Thumbs-up are good! An' we're GLAD you liked it, you hear? GLAD, I say!<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I enjoy the Ada character, and I hope she remains a major player in the comic. I too enjoy Worchesshire... Worchester... Worshister... However you spell that.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Not to worry, Karva - Ada is going to be around for a plenty long time, since I think BJ really likes her.<P>Plus, make sure to stop by for Friday's strip, when you'll meet one of the other major cast members - Melissa! We know you'll like her - we do!<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>
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Postby BJ on Wed Jul 12, 2000 8:36 am

Actually, I do like Ada quite a bit. You'll see her as often as I can stand to stick Zipatone on her. Love her to death, but she takes the LONGEST time to draw.<P>Thanx for the kind words, Karva. I will continue to try to make you laugh, which should be fun; I draw to amuse myself, and if you like the same stuff, then we're home free!!<P>------------------
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Postby Arisha on Wed Jul 12, 2000 11:51 am

I also like this strip. Especially the fridge. "It was an emergency. I panicked." That's a great line. ;D<P>I'll be sure to come back Friday to meet the new character! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
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Postby Arisha on Wed Jul 12, 2000 11:53 am

Oh - and I also like the way you've got the author's notes after the older ones. Maybe it's just me, but I find things like that interesting.
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Postby ZOMBIE USER 54 on Thu Jul 13, 2000 6:10 am

bj... pardon my ignorance, but what exaclt is zipatone? btw.. i also really dig your comic. i read through the archive up to date and can't wait to read more. plus, i also like the annotations. i did the same thing with my strip in the archives section. for me, it's a way to try and help get people into my head, what i was thinking when i did a comic, or if its based in real life, or an opportunity for me to explain if the strip turned out to be a little less than effective. anyways.. like i said, look forward to more of your stuff <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> !<P>Rick
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Postby Jackiesfridge on Thu Jul 13, 2000 6:42 am

I don't have an iguana...but I have three cats (was four - they're Anna, Onyx, and Lundie), one of which will hopefully be living with BJ at some point in the future; a ton of fish (one 45-gallon cichlid aquarium for my wife, who likes 'pretty fish', and a 55-gallon brackish aquarium for myself - apparently I like 'ugly fish'), and two snakes, both Ball Pythons who we hope will breed someday. Heck, you can get $40-50 each for the babies, easy, and they tend to lay 6-7 eggs a clutch. Unfortunately, a) they only mate once a year, and b) we still don't know if we've got a male AND a female, or just two females. Kinda hard to tell with them.<P>Hey, Karva - any ideas for names for them? Right now we just call them 'Snake' and 'The Other Snake'. I'll gratefully consider any suggestions.
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Postby BJ on Thu Jul 13, 2000 7:12 am

Okay Karva,<P>You get the impressed raise of the eyebrow. He's named after Ash from the Evil Dead series.<P>And Shannon--I really like "Snake" and "Other Snake" as names. Something about it just....clicks. Remember, Beq's guinea pig had a "real" name, and we all just ended up calling him "Pig" all the time anyway.<P>And hey everybody! I will be introducing a guinea pig into the Jackie's Fridge universe sometime in January. He is evil and plots to take over the world. If anybody's interested, I will spill most--but not all--of the beans about him.<P>--BJ<P>------------------
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Postby Karva on Thu Jul 13, 2000 7:28 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jackiesfridge:
<B>Hey, Karva - any ideas for names for them? Right now we just call them 'Snake' and 'The Other Snake'. I'll gratefully consider any suggestions.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Well... Sure.<P>I always liked the names: Nina and Nino. The female can be Nina, and the male can be Nino. It could be cute...<P>Unless, of course, they're both female...<P>Hmmm...<P>I can't think of any more right now. I'll reply back when I do!<P>
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Postby Galen on Thu Jul 13, 2000 7:30 am

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Postby BJ on Fri Jul 14, 2000 4:04 am

Hey Smudge, thanks for making this the flaming discussion!<P>Actually, for the strips you're reading now, I got sick of using Zip (the brand I use is Formatt) and just diagonally hatched Ada's skin. The technical term for that is "cheating".<P>And even though the strips starting in December will have Shannon's touch on her skintone, I'm still gonna have to go back to the original art and hand-zip each Ada appearance for print.<P>Siiiiiigh.....<P>I'm gonna start a new string for technique, just 'cos we've wandered off subject. My history lesson for the day regarding Zipatone and such is there....I am so long winded.<P>--BJ<P>------------------
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Postby Zodo on Fri Jul 14, 2000 7:16 am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by rickZ:
[B]bj... pardon my ignorance, but what exaclt is zipatone? btw.. i also really dig your comic. i read through the archive up to date and can't wait to read more. plus, i also like the annotations. i did the same thing with my strip in the archives section. for me, it's a way to try and help get people into my head, what i was thinking when i did a comic, or if its based in real life, or an opportunity for me to explain if the strip turned out to be a little less than effective. anyways.. like i said, look forward to more of your stuff <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> !<P>Rick
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Postby BJ on Fri Jul 14, 2000 9:43 am

Hey Zodo, you beat me to it.<P>Zipatone is the brand name (like "Xerox") for a type of tone sheet. The stuff I use is actually a different brand.<P>Basically, Zip comes in two different styles. The type I use comes in a biiig sheet (slightly larger than a sheet of legal sized, 8.5x14" paper) that's basically a self-adhesive clear plastic (like invisible tape) with machine printed dots on one side. The dots come in different sizes and densities (Ada's skin tone is 40% black, but I forget the dot pitch) and you can even get Zip in patterns, textures and the like.<P>The other type of Zip is a rub-on transfer, which is good for effects, but bad for fills.<P>Basically, I use Zip 'cos it looks more professional than hatching (which I've never been able to do well; look at Gerard's backgrounds in Cerebus for a prime example of the power of hatching.) It just takes a while to cut it to shape with an X-acto blade and paste it on.<P>And Rick--that's the exact reason I do the annotations. I'm always interested in the behind-the-scenes stuff, and sometimes, the story behind a comic is more interesting than the comic itself.<P>--BJ<P>------------------
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Postby Jackiesfridge on Fri Jul 14, 2000 10:06 am

And an interesting note for the future - although the <B>JF</B> strips that run in the <B>Pointer</B> will still have Ada zipped, the strips appearing on the website from Christmas on will be using an actual grey, which<P>A) is easier on the eyes, and will blend with BJ's style a bit better than the dots do, and<P>B) won't moire out when resized, like the dots do. "Moiring" is when the dots blend and make goofy patterns because they were shrunk down. For example...<P>This is a regular dot pattern, kinda like the tone BJ uses now:
<IMG SRC="http://jackiesfridge.keenspace.com/images/dots.gif"><P>Now, if you shrink that down to 25% of it's original size, this is what you get:
<IMG SRC="http://jackiesfridge.keenspace.com/images/moire.gif"><P>It ain't pretty. We've managed to overcome it on some of the later strips, but Ada's skin tone will look a bit more...even, once we start doing it by computer.<P>Anyway. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
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Postby Smudgemuffin on Fri Jul 14, 2000 10:35 am

Wow,<P>you ziptoned all of the Ada's so far? I thought you added them in the computer post-produciton. You are hard core!!<P>Just wanted to be the one to turn this post into a flaming one.<P>:-)<P>laters,
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