mangadrawing tips

mangadrawing tips

Postby Steve-san on Wed Oct 02, 2002 11:43 am

Heyo, i just wanted to ask if you have any tips for me.

Like in the case of backgrounds, i have trouble with backgrounds myself in making them match the characters proportionally,

also, what is the process you go through in thinking up a good story to draw? Do you write it out before hand or do you think of how the story will progress as you draw the strip (which i do)?

As you might have noticed, i have alot of unfinished mangastrips on my page, a problem i have is that i'm inspired too easily and will start something new before i finish an older work. Anyways i babbled enough

talk to you later,

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Postby Vampy on Wed Oct 02, 2002 2:22 pm

AHH! I do that to ><! Like everything you said i do the same O.o thats like scary
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Hello!!

Postby Mandichan on Fri Oct 04, 2002 10:38 am

Well, you asked some tough questions, esepcially for a non-expert such as myself here, but I will do my best to help you out!!!

One of the first things I noticed reading your comics was that you did spend time on the backgrounds -- which is great!! Since they're not as fun to draw (or look at ^_^) a lot of people don't bother much with them.. (Of course I am guilty of that too T_T) But anyway, I can see that you try to put em in, and more importantly, try and make the character *fit* in them, like showing them from the same angle and stuff..!!

Stuff like here http://stevesan.topcities.com/mangastri ... shed10.jpg or just in general through out the comics!! It looks nice, good perspective with a character matching it.. I'm surprised you are asking for help, when you are a lot better at it than so many others!!!

But, if its still really bothering you, you might want to consider that its not the backgrounds, but the charcter designs that make you feel that way. Don't get me wrong, I love your art, its soooooo cute :D But what I mean is that your characters are sort of SD-ish, they don't have exact proportions, so they don't might stand out a little bit in a realistic BG. So you might want to try experimenting at drawing the characters' proportions and entire bodies.. But still keep em cute, so its a hard balance >_< This stuff isn't easy!!!

A really good thing for backgrounds is that if the setting changes, try and include the new background right away. If you have people talk for a while without showing where they are, its sort of disorienting. And if you do this, you can just draw one good background at first, and then not worry about it when you're trying to show a character's expression with funny backgrounds ^o^

Another general good tip that may help is to just sketch out everything!! Visualize what you want, draw a very faint suggestion of the character, and then build in a background, then add details. A lot of people just start from the face and work outward, but if you do that, you are leaving too much up to chance!! You have to figure out where each piece of the picture will go before you go and draw it! (Your drawings don't really seem to have this problem though, but it does seem like you put the most work into faces and backgrounds, so try setting specific relative heights and proportions for all the characters... Or something like that!!!^_^ Your bodies are good, like here: http://stevesan.topcities.com/mangastri ... inji23.jpg so keep it up :D)

I hope I don't sound down on your drawings, cause they really are great!!! But, everyone has some room for improvement... I am even more critical to my own drawings!!!!! >_< But, its the only way to improve!!

As far as story goes, its always important to plan ahead, even though its one of the hardest parts. Just like you should sketch out a page, you should plan out the story to some point. You don't exactly have to come up with the dialog for the next 20 pages or anything, but it helps a lot if you have an idea of where you want to go with the story and characters. I had this problem a lot before, where I would come up with good characters and an initial plot.. but then nothing for them to do after they are all introduced ^_^ So I would just stop drawing after a certain amount of time. If you plan things out, it takes a lot more time to prepare, but it makes it a lot easier to write, and helps to keep you from "burning out" after a lil while ^_^ Like.. Its easy to come up with a character and have them have an interesting past, but its hard to think of a plot to bring that aspect of them out.

But anyway, being inspired a lot is a good thing, if I only I had the problem of coming up with too many good ideas ^o^ But I think if you plan ahead a bit more, it won't sort of "replace" the other stuff you are working on, but instead you can work on both!!!

Anyway, I love your comics, they are really cute! Too cute to be left half-finished!! Work on them!!! XD I think they have so much potential, you should spend a lot of time working on them!!!

Ah, wrote too much ^_^;;;; Trying to sound like an expert or something ^_-;;; I am the worst at advice!!! *dies*

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Postby Steve-san on Sun Oct 06, 2002 11:46 am

Thanx alot for your help, some really good tips here.

So what should i do while planing out my story, should i write down what i'm going to do or keep it in my head.

Lately i've been sketching out what i want in some panels on a scratch piece of paper before for i put it in the strip. this helps out alot in saving eraser points (there only so much i can erase with a pencil or erasable pen)

I've also starting using character sheets to help with consistancy a bit.

Ha, so you think i'm doing my backgrounds ok? Well thanx. makes me feel kinda good to think that something i feel weak in might be ok.

Oh i like the new pages you have up now, I really like your story so far.

Well thanx alot for your thoughtful tips, i'll keep them in mind.

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Postby Anchella on Sun Oct 06, 2002 3:49 pm

My main problem is that I tend to be ultra-obsessed over every minor detail of every panel of every page of a comic, and I never get it finished ^_^;;;
I'm hoping that when my turn comes for sho-go I'll be able to chill a bit though, since this is such a light hearted comic instead of the serious stuff I usually gravitate towards.
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