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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 10:48 pm
by Mako
Kellogg wrote:Hey Guys,

I'm not much of a coder. I get no little voice in my head when I ask the
ritual: WWCD? (What Would Cecil Do?) but a friend just pointed a site
to me that might help out:

http://downloads.atp.cx/

Apparently there's a program "ATP Autosite" that may help out.

Hope that helps cut down the workload! :oops:

Scott


Sadly 'tis a unixy thing, and won't work on my obsolete eveel empire NT 4.0 Server :-/ Thanks for the pointer though!

Mako

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 6:20 am
by ZOMBIE USER 10915
I'm running 1024 by 768, but it's on a laptop if that makes a difference.

When I get back from Boise this weekend I'll try my desktop and see what it looks like on a bigger screen.

Don't want to sound like I'm complaining, just thought I'd point out my opinion. :wink:

Thanks for all the effort it looks so much better. :D

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 2:01 pm
by Mako
Sheepdog wrote:I'm running 1024 by 768, but it's on a laptop if that makes a difference.

When I get back from Boise this weekend I'll try my desktop and see what it looks like on a bigger screen.

Don't want to sound like I'm complaining, just thought I'd point out my opinion. :wink:

Thanks for all the effort it looks so much better. :D


Ahh that does indeed make sense.

The comic is 1024 pixels wide and the index frame is 120 pixels wide, so to see it all in one gulp, your looking at 1148 pixels plus whatever overhead the browser window itself has. Likely 1280 is the next stup up above 1024x768 resolution for many people.

My current idea is to work on stuffing the index in the top frame and have it run more or less horizontally. That will hopefully eliminate most of the scrolling for the majoriy of the readers.

Imagine a Java based applet with the year and month displayed in separate boxes flanked by arrows. Click on the arrows to scroll to the appropriate month you want and the comics available for the month pop up in a small box to the right of the month.

It would look something lile:

<pre>
^|2001|v ^|January|v <|3 6 9 12 16 19 22 26 29|>
</pre>

Click on the day of the month and the comic shows up in the main frame below. Or click on the <> arrows to go forward or backwards.

It's very small consumer of screen real estate and easy to use. It's also beyond my ability to code in Java, so Icefox and any other poor volunteers will be getting Email soon :)

A secondary idea is to display the comix in 800 pixel width with a click to 1024 pixel feature. That's more resource intensive (double the number of files) and a bit more annoying to deal with though, so I'm back burnering that one for a while.

CYa!
Allen

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 2:22 pm
by ZOMBIE USER 6611
Mako wrote:Imagine a Java based applet with the year and month displayed in separate boxes flanked by arrows. Click on the arrows to scroll to the appropriate month you want and the comics available for the month pop up in a small box to the right of the month.
This sounds very good to me. I think it will work well.

Take a look at Suburban Jungle's "week at a time" displays,
and also the Freefall in Color volume one. That one, and Freefall's main index, are extremely fast to maneuver through.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2002 3:21 am
by Icefox
Ai... lotsa things happening...

Mako, I didn't get your mail.... Either I mistook it for spam and deleted it (since that addy has recently become a target for spammers), or it just never arrived. grr... Try sheath@mail.com instead, that one isn't as busy. Sorry.

...From what you've said, though, I'm honestly not sure how much help I'll be... I can pretty up the site, but I know zilch about QuickBasic and NT 4 programming, so it's sort of hard to follow what you're trying to do sometimes. If I were starting from scratch, I would probably throw together something in Python or PHP to generate the necessary pages, then maybe another more sophisticated interface module to grab and parse the necessary files when needed/when told to. I might be able to say more if I can take a gander at the code, the server, or both.

A Java applet for navigation is... doable, maybe, but I'm honestly not sure if an applet can manipulate the actual page outside of the applet. It's really a self-contained program that just happens to be displayed in a webpage, as far as I understand it. The easiest way to do something like that would be to just have the applet itself display the comic, which would probably be a bit messy. Javascript would work better, but I'm not very good at it. Some sort of server-side program would be best. I've seen things like this done with PHP image galleries, so I can dig up some code and mess around a bit.

For the 800-pixel image, all you'd have to do is add a tag to the HTML saying something like <img src="techfox-big.jpg" width="800">. It might look a bit grainy, but to some extent that'll happen anyway if you resize the image in Photoshop and save it as a seperate file. I think it will automatically resize the height without you having to specify... At least, IE 5 and Mozilla 1.1 do. The only problem is that the image file is still the SIZE of a 1024-pixel-wide image, even though you're only seeing it at 800 pixels. MUCH easier to implement though.

Levelhead, I'll take a look at those sites... If I ever have five minutes free...

Why yes, now that you mention it, web technology does happen to be something of a hobby of mine... :D

Pax.