October 2 Emotional and Visual Panorama

Re: FanArt of Dr. WHO?! Dr. Affana...that's who.

Postby Mako on Mon Oct 14, 2002 3:23 pm



Looks like your an All Purpose Pony ;-)

drawing Dr. (I love that name--Affana!) Tangent in a playful moment, which is why I was wondering about his/her true gender.


He's a he <a href="lhttp://techfox.keenspace.com/d/20000502.html"> the last time we peeked</a>, although this <a href="http://techfox.keenspace.com/d/20000530.html"> does make one wonder</a>. ;)



Definitely a <a href="http://academic.evergreen.edu/w/winhea12/PoodleCuts/hollywood_clip.htm">Hollywood</a> :)

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Postby Matt Trepal on Mon Oct 14, 2002 4:07 pm

Kellogg wrote:


The good Doctor undoubtedly has the cut which is the most simple to
draw. ;) I'd say it's closest to the Spanish Continental cut:
http://academic.evergreen.edu/w/winhea1 ... nental.htm

Though, I'd simplify it to have only one poofle at the ankle instead of two.

A mad scientist needs a moustache, so I would recommend the Mandarin, myself. But then you'd be able to tell he was a male, and that wouldn't do at all. :wink:
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Re: October 2 Emotional and Visual Panorama

Postby Batty den on Tue Oct 15, 2002 5:15 am

The ship under construction by the station is along the lines of an Orbital taxi, running around Earth Orbit, or to the Moon. As others have noted
it's inspired along the lines of some of the ships from Space: 1999.
http://www.space1999.net/~catacombs/mai ... pdd088.jpg

It's awfully hard to see, but there's a fuel tank missing from the aft section
of the ship, that's being brought up into place by two space pods. At
least that was what was in my mind when I was drawing it. Now that I
actually look at it, you can't really tell what it is. But, take my word for
it. ;)



(fiddle fiddle fiddle) What, like this? http://www.battyden.net/pictures/3D%20R ... 1CFox.jpg/

The perpective's shot. The station is about 20x the size of the ship, and the world is MUCH bigger. I improvized and added some solar panels because I couldn't see anything under your station in the strip, and lit looked boring with nothing.



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Re: October 2 Emotional and Visual Panorama

Postby Kellogg on Tue Oct 15, 2002 6:01 am

batty den wrote:(fiddle fiddle fiddle) What, like this? http://www.battyden.net/pictures/3D%20R ... 1CFox.jpg/

The perpective's shot. The station is about 20x the size of the ship, and the world is MUCH bigger. I improvized and added some solar panels because I couldn't see anything under your station in the strip, and lit looked boring with nothing.


HOLY COW! That's GREAT! :D

I love the little touch of the dish antennae reflections and shadow!
Great detail! 8) And there's a storm off the coast of Florida. :o

That is absolutely *Beautiful*!
You mentioned that your computer is slow. That must have taken
HOURS. I'm utterly and completely amazed!

YAY DEN! WHEEE!!!
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Re: October 2 Emotional and Visual Panorama

Postby ZOMBIE USER 6611 on Tue Oct 15, 2002 6:23 am

batty den wrote:
(fiddle fiddle fiddle) What, like this? http://www.battyden.net/pictures/3D%20R ... 1CFox.jpg/
Very impressive indeed, Batty Den.

Excellent work, magnificent detail!

I wonder how easy if would be to add a directed light source on the globe in the background (the sun is behind and above the left shoulder of the viewer) to illuminate the globe. Unlit, it appears to be nighttime, but the ship and station are enjoying a glorious sunlight.

What a tour de force of your capabilities! Bravo! :)
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Re: FanArt of Dr. WHO?! Dr. Affana...that's who.

Postby ZOMBIE USER 7666 on Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:41 am

Kellogg wrote:
whitepony wrote:Just letting you know Scott that I've added your link to my Online Comics Link's Page.

I'm slowly making progress among the pile of projects.


Yay! Thanks! :D
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You are always more than Welcome! 8)

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whitepony wrote:Concerning Dr. "Affana" Tangent..."Affana?!" "AFFANA!!!" Image


Actually, that's a pretty good name for him. Of course, he'd hate it,
because people would be even more confused about his gender.

The poor guy. Everyone assumes he's female or gay, instead of
just effeminate.


Effeminate? I love it!!! That
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Re: October 2 Emotional and Visual Panorama

Postby Daniel Cougar on Tue Oct 15, 2002 12:46 pm

batty den wrote:
(fiddle fiddle fiddle) What, like this? http://www.battyden.net/pictures/3D%20R ... 1CFox.jpg/

The perpective's shot. The station is about 20x the size of the ship, and the world is MUCH bigger. I improvized and added some solar panels because I couldn't see anything under your station in the strip, and lit looked boring with nothing.


Not bad. A few small errors on the ship, but without referencing Scott's original sources all understandable. The Earth though... I take it you couldn't find a model with clouds in it?
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Re: FanArt of Dr. WHO?! Dr. Affana...that's who.

Postby Matt Trepal on Tue Oct 15, 2002 2:00 pm

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Postby Matt Trepal on Tue Oct 15, 2002 2:15 pm

feel free to delete this, Scott

I'm to twitchy to touch the "delete" button now, after what I did to my own forum!
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Re: October 2 Emotional and Visual Panorama

Postby Batty den on Tue Oct 15, 2002 4:57 pm

Kellogg wrote:
You mentioned that your computer is slow. That must have taken
HOURS. I'm utterly and completely amazed!



About 4 hours to build the models in Moray and find photographs to map onto surfaces (the background is a time-exposure of the Milky Way around Crux, something I see every night by the way, and the world is a true-colour photograph made be NASA), and 20 minutes to render them with POVRay.

YAY DEN! WHEEE!!!
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This is your fault. I'm fixing some problems and adding clouds when I should be doing university assignments. Stop inspiring me! :D

If I was really good at this I'd be able to do figures, and then I could draw my own comic.

About bats, of course. :wink:

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Re: October 2 Emotional and Visual Panorama

Postby Kellogg on Tue Oct 15, 2002 5:28 pm

batty den wrote:About 4 hours to build the models in Moray and find photographs to map onto surfaces (the background is a time-exposure of the Milky Way around Crux, something I see every night by the way, and the world is a true-colour photograph made be NASA), and 20 minutes to render them with POVRay.


Neat! Very Very neat! Thanks! :D

YAY DEN! WHEEE!!!
:D


This is your fault. I'm fixing some problems and adding clouds when I should be doing university assignments. Stop inspiring me! :D


Sorry, can't do that. But, please don't neglect your work. It's tough
going back to school. (I may end up doing just that.) I wish you all the
luck in the world at university. :)

If I was really good at this I'd be able to do figures, and then I could draw my own comic.

About bats, of course. :wink:


I'll have to do a sketch of Veronica Desmond, the nurse vampire bat
soon. :)

I mentioned in e-mail, and in a Livejournal comment that the next time
folks see Veronica there may be a little bit of cognitive dissonance.
When I first drew her, she was nearly as big as Jack. Of course, that
falls into the Ancient Archeology category. When she next appears,
she'll be closer to the proper scale of a vampire bat. Hopefully, my
artistic lisence will cover these things. :roll:

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Re: FanArt of Dr. WHO?! Dr. Affana...that's who.

Postby Kellogg on Tue Oct 15, 2002 6:16 pm

whitepony wrote:Being the creator of said character, you have the ultimate say as to what is or is not out of character. However, fan-art is usually accepted as being mostly out of character by most fans. It&#8217;s seen as a gesture of admiration toward you as the creator concerning a character that the fan admires.

If it was one of my characters doing something totally unacceptable, then I would be reluctant to add it to my fan-art page. However, if my character were shown in a tasteful nude or slightly suggestive manner, I would make my decision based on the overall content and decide for myself if it should be posted.


Actually, it wasn't so much that the pic was *that* risque, or that out
of character (since her skirt was blowing up by accident) but that the
timing of it was more suggestive than I would have liked. It was just
after I'd drawn Jenny dancing in a tight Fireman's outfit singing "Fire"
by the Pointer Sisters.

With this coming right after it, I was concerned that Jenny's character
might start to look like the stereotypical comic strip vixen sexpot.
At that point in time, we didn't know as much about her as we do now.
She's an attractive lady. And that isn't always easy to portray.
If I show too much of her just being attractive, folks get one idea. If
I show too much of her just being a lady, folks get another idea. To
keep her a real person, it's a balancing act.

Dr. Tangent however, is not nearly so sensitively portrayed.
He's a nut, and he's supposed to be. You're a pony of good taste. You
can probably do just about anything to him. :)
Thank you for your respect and trust. I appreciate that more than you know. 8)


No problem. I figure if Mark can trust you with Florence, how could
I question you?

...And if there's any trouble...
I'll just ask Florence to have a little talk with you. :lol: :wink:

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Re: FanArt of Dr. WHO?! Dr. Affana...that's who.

Postby ZOMBIE USER 7666 on Tue Oct 15, 2002 7:33 pm

Kellogg wrote:
whitepony wrote:Thank you for your respect and trust. I appreciate that more than you know. 8)


No problem. I figure if Mark can trust you with Florence, how could
I question you?

What a wonderful compliment.

Besides, "If you can't trust a unicorn...who can you trust."

...And if there's any trouble...
I'll just ask Florence to have a little talk with you. :lol: :wink:
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Re: October 2 Emotional and Visual Panorama

Postby Batty den on Wed Oct 16, 2002 3:15 am

Kellogg wrote:
Neat! Very Very neat! Thanks! :D



(fiddle fiddle fiddle) update, with an almost entirely unsuccessful attempt at planetary cloud cover. Oh well. :-?

http://www.battyden.net/pictures/3D%20R ... 1CFox.jpg/



I'll have to do a sketch of Veronica Desmond, the nurse vampire bat
soon. :)


Excellent! :D


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Re: October 2 Emotional and Visual Panorama

Postby Kellogg on Wed Oct 16, 2002 8:58 am

batty den wrote:(fiddle fiddle fiddle) update, with an almost entirely unsuccessful attempt at planetary cloud cover. Oh well. :-?

http://www.battyden.net/pictures/3D%20R ... 1CFox.jpg/


Neat! Great job! :D

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Re: October 2 Emotional and Visual Panorama

Postby Matt Trepal on Wed Oct 16, 2002 11:25 am

batty den wrote:(fiddle fiddle fiddle) update, with an almost entirely unsuccessful attempt at planetary cloud cover. Oh well. :-?

No wonder they're heading into space, look at that ice age! Wreaking havoc with the South Seas tourist trade, no doubt! :wink:

(badly rendered clouds or not, great work, den!)
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Re: October 2 Emotional and Visual Panorama

Postby ZOMBIE USER 6611 on Thu Oct 17, 2002 5:11 am

batty den wrote:(fiddle fiddle fiddle) update, with an almost entirely unsuccessful attempt at planetary cloud cover. Oh well. :-?
You certainly do nice work!

And I enjoyed also the pictures of the cute microbats. I was very suprised at the diminutive size of Bek and cousins.

On the station, you may want to take another look at the alignment of the Z axis to the plane of the ring.

Lighting angles on planet and vehicles are looking good!
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Re: October 2 Emotional and Visual Panorama

Postby Batty den on Thu Oct 17, 2002 4:30 pm

LevelHead wrote:
On the station, you may want to take another look at the alignment of the Z axis to the plane of the ring.

Lighting angles on planet and vehicles are looking good!


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The whole station's Z axis off by about 10 degrees so we can see more of it, but the panels at the botom are tilted towards the light source. The ring is really at 90 degrees to the core, it just doesn't look that way. Here is the wire-frame with all the rotations removed:
<img src="http://www.battyden.net/21Gfoxconst.jpg">


And I enjoyed also the pictures of the cute microbats. I was very suprised at the diminutive size of Bek and cousins.


If you are insanely interested in bats, http://members.ozemail.com.au/~denbat/ :)

I rescued the Wellington police station from Bek's mum. By the time I arrived there was a 6 gram bat sitting on the concrete, surrounded by 7 nervous constables. The Senior Sergeant had locked himself in the office and wouldn't come out. That night Bek's mum made a lot of noise in the rescue cage. Next morning I had two bats. Bek weighed 1.5 grams. That's not a lot, but it's 25% of the mum's own weight. :o The pair didn't take well to the extended captivity and I had to raise Bek by hand, but the pup died at 8 weeks. :cry:

I also rescue kangaroos, wallabies, echidnas, possums, and birds, and have helped glue feathers onto a pair of eagles. But I rehab bats because bats are beaut. :D


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Re: October 2 Emotional and Visual Panorama

Postby ZOMBIE USER 6611 on Thu Oct 17, 2002 5:09 pm

batty den wrote:The whole station's Z axis off by about 10 degrees so we can see more of it, but the panels at the botom are tilted towards the light source. The ring is really at 90 degrees to the core, it just doesn't look that way.
It's an interesting illusion. The core in your rendered image is clearly vertical. However, the ring seems to be tilted, as you said, about ten degrees to the left -- with the core remaining vertical anyway.

I am unable to shake this illusion.
batty den wrote:...Bek weighed 1.5 grams. That's not a lot, but it's 25% of the mum's own weight. :o The pair didn't take well to the extended captivity and I had to raise Bek by hand, but the pup died at 8 weeks. :cry:
That is sad. I have raised and maintained many exotic animals myself over the years, and am an amateur herpatologist (although not currently active). You always hate to lose one.

My secretary worked hard to keep the lizard terrarium in my office in good shape; I never required this of her, but she was quite proud of it. And it was big enough to hold her about three times over. We had Jacksons chameleons, some Leocephalus, and small snakes of a few varieties. Nothing furry here, though.

batty den wrote:I also rescue kangaroos, wallabies, echidnas, possums, and birds, and have helped glue feathers onto a pair of eagles. But I rehab bats because bats are beaut. :D
Bats certainly add a new seasoning to the phrase "You little beauty"! Australia is a magnificent place for your hobby!

Bats are very interesting from an evolutionary perspective as well, an aspect that I imagine you are quite familiar with. We now know the history of whales in large degree, from small hoofed mammals gradually becoming the behemoths of the ocean deeps. But bats first appear on the fossil scene not too different from the way they appear now. Early bats had claws on thumb and one finger; one of those is not present on modern bats. But echolocation appeared to be at least partially developed in the earliest recognizable bats, and most bats now have this down to a fine art indeed.
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Re: October 2 Emotional and Visual Panorama

Postby Daniel Cougar on Thu Oct 17, 2002 11:42 pm

I think I can help you with the clouds. I work with POV-ray straight though. I don't know how you would do this in Moray, but try the below as a texture. Also check out http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/main/models/w2multra.html for detail on the booster nose.

Edit: POV scripting removed. Delivered via e-mail. New Earth with improved cloud action available soon. Order yours today.
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