Scottsdale Scott and Dragonish Doings

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Scottsdale Scott and Dragonish Doings

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Well I got back this PM from the The Space Frontier Foundation get together in Scottsdale where Not only did I get the extreme pleasure of hanging out with Level_Head (who is the world's most gracious host ever) and sharing a room with none other than Mr. K himself, but I also got to meet one of the most impressive groups of people I have ever seen under a single roof. I'll yammer on more in depth about that in my Live Journal in a day or two, but this being the 21CF forum, I'll limit this note to 21CF coolness :)

Scott brought not only his sketchbook, but also his 21CF sketchbook with the last 80 or so strips in it and he let me check out all of it! Just awesome stuff. Scott allowed me to take a few photos of the books, which I will be posting on my www post haste, so watch this space :)

A couple of observations:
There has been some nattering on the quality of Scott's artwork as compared to his story telling. Looking at the real deal originals significantly changes that perspective for me.

Scott's style is fine detail rich - detail that just gets creamed in the digitization/ shrink and .jpg process. It's not the art that's the problem, it's the process of getting the image up on the web in an affordable (for Keenspace) modem friendly format that squeezes the detail life out of the artwork.

It makes me wonder just how many other strips out there are squished and .jpg'd to death as well... There are a couple of ideas Scott and I discussed on how to improve this situation before passing out after a long con day:

Scott wants to start drawing on 11x17" paper. Where cartooning is concerned, Bigger is Better. He is researching an 11x17" scanner, so he won't have to dink around with cut 'n pasting of multiple 8.5x11" pages that will add to the already too lengthy process of creating the strip.

I have offered Scott webspace on my server for hosting a high resolution version of each strip once I get the box back on line, probably by Monday or Tuesday. The pipe is a 128Kbps upstream, so it's reasonably snappy.

This will allow KS to keep on keeping on with it's excellent service to the general community with ~75K images sizes while providing us 21CF fans a visually tasty high-res archive to enjoy.

The current strip is roughly 575x400 depending &ct. Even a modest bump in size to 1024x768 combined with a more moderate amount of .jpg compression will restore much of the fine detail that Scott puts into his work. My swag is a target image size of around 150KB would produce a significant gain in quality, with a diminishing return above 200KB.

Scott: If/when your up for doing this, we can perform some basic quality and practicality testing of various size images. Just let me know. I can easily cobble together some batch files (yes, it's an NT box, you Killer Penguin Boys can put away your full auto armor piercing herring rifles now ;-) that will automate the process in a slightly cruder, but still effective, way a'la KS.

More on the con on my LJ when I get up tomarrow and find some time to make a proper entry.

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Re: Scottsdale Scott and Dragonish Doings

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Mako wrote: I have offered Scott webspace on my server for hosting a high resolution version of each strip once I get the box back on line, probably by Monday or Tuesday. The pipe is a 128Kbps upstream, so it's reasonably snappy.
That sounds like an amazing Idea! :o I'd love to see 21Century Fox in higer resolution!!
Mako wrote: Scott's style is fine detail rich - detail that just gets creamed in the digitization/ shrink and .jpg process. It's not the art that's the problem, it's the process of getting the image up on the web in an affordable (for Keenspace) modem friendly format that squeezes the detail life out of the artwork.
Heh! What did you expect, its a strip about a bunch of Engineers(software or otherwise). :P

Although, now it seems I'm missing out on so very much...
I'm very jealous of you and anyone else who has seen this, 'cause now I wanna!! :-?

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21CF Fox sketchbook photos avialable (maybe :)

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I have placed two photos of Scott's original sketchbook artwork <a href="http://www.caspeed.com/21cf/sketchbook.html" target="_blank"> Here</a> with the following caveat:

The DNS for my web site has not yet fully updated, so you may/not be able to see the page. Hopefully in a few days all the isp's will have the updated DNS record and everyone will be able to see the images that want to.

Tnx! to Scott and Level_Head once again!

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If the DNS hasn't propagated yet, you can reach the files by going here:

http://www.safeproxy.org/cgi-bin/nph-pr ... hbook.html

:)

Nice ( :roll: ) pictures, Mako... hehe...

But I get the point. I bet a lot of detail is lost in the coloring as well... Scott, if you need some tips on keeping that detail through the coloring process, let me know.

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LaserBeams wrote:If the DNS hasn't propagated yet, you can reach the files by going here:

http://www.safeproxy.org/cgi-bin/nph-pr ... hbook.html

:)

Nice ( :roll: ) pictures, Mako... hehe...

But I get the point. I bet a lot of detail is lost in the coloring as well... Scott, if you need some tips on keeping that detail through the coloring process, let me know.
Hey. tre' cool Laser, tnx!

Ya, the images could be better, but for putting the books on a bed and snapping a couple of photos, they came out (almost) ok ;)

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Hey! :) thanks for getting them up!, took me awhile to see them though. :(

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Olick wrote:Hey! :) thanks for getting them up!, took me awhile to see them though. :(
Cox cable has had major problems today, a car took out a telephone pole near my house and the cable got crunched. They also have problems in their network backbone somewhere, today's basically sucked for network problems :-/

My network has been a yo-yo as a result, sigh... Glad the images finally dripped in to your system.


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Hrm, It worked 2 or 3 days ago, but even the proxy won't work now, just keeps taking me back to some Pandac.com...

I have gotten them, shoulda saved em while i had the chance... :-?

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Olick wrote:Hrm, It worked 2 or 3 days ago, but even the proxy won't work now, just keeps taking me back to some Pandac.com...

I have gotten them, shoulda saved em while i had the chance... :-?
I have just made the images available on my friend's backup web server (pandac.com) that currently serves the caspeed.com domain when mine network is out to lunch.

Go ahead and give it try, you should be able to get the images from one of the two servers now.

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PS: I added a "This page is served by the Las Vegas caspeed.com web server" line to the page. If you don't see that line, then page is coming from Katayamma's server (tnx Katayamma!) and my network/server/day is muffed up :)

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