RHJunior wrote:Five percent sounds about right.
See, in any religion, the vast majority of the faith is made up of the <I>congregation</i>--- the followers who do little more than fill the pews. Their primary contribution to the faith is to drop money in the offering plate when it comes around... or raising funds with bake sales or selling flowers on streetcorners or fundraisers or what have you.
These people make up about three fourths of the faithful.
Of the remaining 25%, call about 20 percent the administrative. The ushers, the deacons, the secretaries, the custodial staff... the people who handle the infrastructure and maintenance.
the remaining 5 percent? The field workers. Preachers, evangelists--- missionaries.
See, boys, when you see a Baptist missionary out in the Congo, <I>you know very well who's signing his support check back home.</i> You see an islamic terrorist out on the field--- or more likely see the explosion he sets off--- you know darned well every piece of equipment he has, every gun, every bullet, every block of C-4, every airplane ticket was paid for by other Muslims. And it was brought to him by a logistics column of Muslims that stretches back a thousand miles.... that in their turn get every dime in their hands from Muslim congregations around the world and from Muslim governments around the world.
You know for a FACT that every last one of them got their training and indoctrination in a Muslim school, their religious instruction in a Muslim mosque. These are not some extremists who ran off on their own to the lamentation of their holy leaders--- they were <I>hand picked</i> from the masses, given their guns, bombs, airline tickets and their instructions, and then set loose on the rest of us. And as has been demonstrated repeatedly before you for decades, <I>Every Muslim, from infancy on, is taught to aspire to be like them.</i>
You see a Catholic priest, you know he comes from the Catholic church, and who he answers to. You see a Baptist Missionary, you know where his support comes from. You meet a Jewish Rabbi, you know where his beliefs and dogma originated.
You see a Muslim rioting in the street, or hear him screaming "death to the Jew pig," or watch him dress his son up as a suicide bomber, or see him take a plane hostage--- don't insult the intelligence of those around you by pretending he isn't a Muslim.
... Simply amazing. I didn't think you were this stubborn and hard-headed RHJ, but apparantly I underestimated you. I'm amazed that you actually think that the vast majority of Muslims SUPPORT suicide bombings and other terrorist activities. Certainly, there are some who do support it, at least in words, but I doubt that the majority are donating at their local mosque to the "Support killing the Americans" fund.
The closest I'd say that the direct support comes from is from corrupt officials who siphon money from the zakat to the terrorists. That's not the fault of the people donating so much as the fault of evil people higher up in the ranks. And most of those extremist most likely ARE people who ran off on their own after being fed up with the standard religion.
But you know what? I don't care about this debate anymore. Obviously i'm just banging my head against several brick walls here. RHJ has made it perfectly clear that he has a warped view of Islam and would rather hold onto that than even enterain the idea that Islam might not be the grand evil anti-American conspiracy that he thinks it is. I might continue lurking just to see what gets said, but I'm certianly not gonna continue attempting to change the mind of someone who doesn't even want to listen. See you all in other threads.
When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
How great would the world be if we REALLY practiced that?