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Eep. My dad was mistaken for a Syrian a few years back. But you'd have to be DEDICATED to learn to speak Spanish without an Arabic accent. It's next to impossible, unless you started VERY young.

They're not *speaking* Spanish, they're just creepin' across the border. They only need to look Mexican at a distance through some Border Patrol agent's binoculars, that'd be easy enough for a whitey never mind a middle easterner.

Border Patrol can't hunt down every Mexican crosser and they don't really try. If they saw Arabs and realized 'em as such they'd go wild, hence we see these patches torn off and left in the desert as too conspicous.

Once they're in an urban area they don't have to keep up the Latino fake job, just blend in with the middle eastern types we've got now.

Eh?

There's terrorrists sneaking across the border, and they have Arabic-language patches on their clothes that they only remove as they cross?

So?
To find the Al Qaeda, all we need to do is track down the manufacturer of the patches?

The second one looks homebrew. Good luck tracing that.

The first is damned interesting though...looks professional and military. Lion...didn't Saddam's regime feature lion logos?

I wonder what google will turn up...this search:

patch lion wings parachute arabic

...turns up a lot of references to these pics. There are some sketchy notes on translations but not which words match which patches, which is idiocy.

That first with the lion really looks military.

Hmmm.

Let's add "translation" to the search, see if anybody has done a decent job with that...

Ah. This is a better report:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42579

Dates to Jan. '05, clearly the same patches (note loose string on the lion patch).

Turns out this patch has some military-sounding text on top ("Defense HQ" or similar) followed by Islamocrap on the bottom.

Well damn. That's not good AT all.

Parachute symbology in military patches almost always means offensive forces, such as our Airborne types. Combined with wings, that means something like "overseas expeditionary force"...one connected with Islam.

And these are a year and a half old, AND they don't know who was actually wearing these, they just found the jackets.

Google:

saddam lion

...and you get 930,000 hits. Google:

islam lion

...and you get 2.5mil something. So we have no solid clue what the lion means. (Scratches head) Wait, let's try:

wahhabi lion

32,500 hits. Not as many as I'd have thought. What about:

shi'ite lion

Over 80,000. Next:

shiite lion

Over 200,000.

Oh boy. Not really accurate of course, just a rough guide, but...looks to be more of a Shi'ite/Hezbollah symbol than Saudi/Wahhabi/Al Queda. Maybe.

Shi'ite means 98% odds Iranian. Outside of that one nutcase Sadr in Bagdad the only Shi'ites that really hate our guts are the ones connected with Iran. And Sadr doesn't have the resources to reach as far as Texas I don't think.

Could be a Saddam loyalist team but I doubt it...they wouldn't have anything as professional looking as this and Saddam's mug would be all over it. I'd bet Iranian/Hezbollah. Which means "dirty bomb capable".

No, definately not good.

Agreed, not good... with two minor cavils.

1. Another patch read "Midnight Mission" in English... which seems awfully unusual if the wearer is presumed to be an Arabic-reading terrorist who removed the patch.

2. The jacket, according to another patch, is from Daiwa sporting goods, which does not have offices in any Arabic-speaking country. Listed Daiwa offices are located in America, Australia, France, Germany, Japan, Taiwan, Thailand and Scotland.

Given those two items, something smells distinctly fishy...

Yours truly,

The wolfish,

Wanderer

I just don't understand what kind of agent waltzes around with those patches ALL THE WAY up until the border, where he rips it off?

My guess is that these have been placed there deliberately, either by someone who wants more funding for the border patrols, or by someone who wants to force the USA to spend more resources patrolling that border...

Yeah, right. Fishing reels.

Jeez, does *nobody* use Google?!

daiwa arabic

17,000+ hits. Like this one:

http://african.lss.wisc.edu/utamaduni/glossary.htm

A Swahili dictionary. Search text "daiwa" we get two lines:

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dai claim (from Arabic; cf. daiwa)

daiwa owe (cf. dai)
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It's a freakin' Arabic word connected with the concepts "claim" or "owe", either of which would be applicable to Islamofascists.

Oh looky, same search on "daiwa" and "arabic", we get:

http://www.islamicfinder.org/getitWorld ... 2401&lang=

Details on this Islamic org?

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DARU-AL-HIJRA FOR DAIWA AND GUIDANCE CENTRE
Last Updated: 2003-05-08
Address: DARU-AL-HIJRA FOR DAIWA AND GUIDANCE CENTRE
ADDIS ABABA,
Addis Abbaba, ETHIOPIA 21048, ETHIOPIA
Phone: 02519-248915
Fax: 755299
Email: DHIJRA@TELECOM.NET.ET
General Information: THIS ORGANIZATION SERVES THE MUSLIM SOCIETY FOR DIAWA IN BUILDING MOSQUES, ISLAMIC CAMPS FOR YOUTH, DAIWA COURSE FOR WOMEN, RELIEF AID AND OTHERS BENEFITS.
General Activities: TEACHING ARABIC LANGUAGE, HELPING YETIM, IFTAR PROJECTS, HAJI PROGRAMMES AND OTHERS.
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Fishing reels my ass. Ghaaa. That's a sad attempt to dissuade panic. I canNOT be the first one to have caught this.

OK, so what's it mean? Add "glossary" to the search. We get some weird stuff on the "Mandeans", I'll ignore that for now, that's some really small weird faith out of the middle east. We get a reference to the word in Aramaic, the language of Jesus and the direct ancestor of Arabic:

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http://www.essenes.net/glossaryaramaic2.html

# Deywa - Daiwa, a div, an evil Spirit. (note the similarity to the Parthian Daeva and the Sanskit Deva.) (O:N:E: - dark attitude)
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"Evil Spirit" - "Dark Attitude"...are we seeing a pattern here that ain't got squat to do with fishing?

Mandean glossary, same thing, same spelling. Let's try and pin it down to Arabic/Islamic shall we?

AHAH!

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http://www.aei.org/events/filter.all,ev ... script.asp

MR. RUBIN: People are talking about Muqtada al-Sadr putting 10 to 15 percent of his people on the list, perhaps hedging his bets with violence if things don't go his way. That's part of the learning process. But the fact of the matter is Daiwa (?), SCIRI, Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq, any number of other groups are talking about joining together and coalescing along with other non-Shia groups who want to attach themselves to that power bloc, for example, the Kurdistan Democratic Party, perhaps the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, perhaps Ayad Allawi.
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BINGO. "DAIWA" is some sort of Shia/Shiite/Shi'ite (same thing) group listed along with Sadr's bunch and others.

I called it the first time. It's somebody connected with Iran/Hezbollah.

Damn I'm good.

Let's nail it - googling:

daiwa shia

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http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2005/s1293229.htm

MARK WILLACY: Mouffaq Rubaie used to be the international spokesman for al-Daiwa, a Shia Muslim movement which led the failed 1991 uprising against Saddam Hussein. The British-educated physician is now Iraq's National Security Adviser. He believes that the insurgency is being driven by two very different Sunni groups.
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http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/2003/ ... le-is.html

In short, we're settiing up our very own death squads run by people willing to collaborate with the enemy for personal gain. Despite depicting the Peshmerga as our allies, they sat on their hands for the most part during the war, waiting to collect their stolen land. They also have a nasty history of cutting deals and killing each other. Al Daiwa isn't much better. Arming this motley crew, people who have no loyalty but to their leaders, is a sign that we're desperate. It's also the kind of thing which triggers civil wars. These people all want power, but have no means to get it. Establishing a private army is one way. Having the US fund and train this private Army is even better, regardless of how many SF troopers you place in charge.
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Fishing reels. Suuuure.

Well, gee whillikers, ignoring half my post was certainly wise of you! I mean, how important could English letters be? Clearly, I have been the tool of a vast English-writing, Arabic-speaking Islamofascist plot, bent on the total destruction of all good people everywhere!

If I have to put '/sarcasm' after that, I'm slipping. The 'gee whillikers' alone should've been a tipoff.

I said the jacket was from Daiwa, you...

<long, calming breath in and out>

Pardon. My statement was that the jacket itself was from Daiwa, a conclusion also reached by our own Department of Homeland Security, according to this item on WorldNet. So I'm ever so happy you feel the Department of Homeland Security is stupid enough to confuse a corporate logo with the given name of an organization.

As for the rest, some of it is rather sketchy; the forays into Swahili and Aramaic lead me to believe you file "The Da Vinci Code" with the history books.

In addition, the article you referenced about "DAIWA" and "SCIRI" has a typo, as the (?) after "Daiwa" is meant to indicate. (For future reference, that notation means, "spelling uncertain".) The reference is to the Islamic Dawa party in Iraq, referenced in this Wikipedia article. They are based in the town of Nasirya, which they control, and masterminded some attempts on Saddam's life a while back.

Oh, yeah. And they also won the Iraq elections. They're pretty much in charge of the place, holding a majority of seats.

And yes, I use Google. Which is how I verified that the jacket could indeed have come from the Daiwa company's Accessories catalog.

Got any justification for the "Midnight Mission" patch being in English? I mean, as long as you're delivering pronouncements from atop the mount...

Yours wolfishly,

The Google-using,

(But a touch more discerning,)

Wanderer

ripped tags are the least of it.
They've found odds and ends--- crap like notepaper written on in arabic, postcards, things like that.

Those bits I can understand, barely.

That's one thing spies have learned a long time ago, NEVER bring anything incriminating or suspicious.
So when they toss away notes it's probably notes about what to do up until that point, and they're discarded as they're no longer necessary.
not that they should have brought them that far, either. They should have memorized and destroyed them.

But patches on their jackets?

It's just so moronic...

RHJunior wrote:ripped tags are the least of it.
They've found odds and ends--- crap like notepaper written on in arabic, postcards, things like that.

Look, I agree that something's going on... but the hinky nature of some evidence means I'm not sure you have the right end of the stick.

Consider:

Daiwa jacket: Daiwa jackets are not sold in any Middle Eastern country. Closest distributor in that area is Thailand.

"Midnight Mission" patch: English lettering + WTC image != Islamic terrorist. Why English, when the other patch is in Arabic? (Bad Arabic, too: Checking the online dictionaries turned up synonyms for the pictured word translated as "defense": Apologia, apology, defence, plead...)

BTW: The jacket was not ripped when found. It was discarded, intact, in a lay-up on Texas State Highway 285. (285 runs from Hebbronville, where the Border Patrol officers were stationed, east through Falfurrias, and on to U.S. 77.) The patches were forcibly detached for the photo, it seems.

This just doesn't smell right, Ralph. A definite tang of tuna, we're talking.

Yours truly,

The suspicious,

Wanderer

Whether Islamic militants are sneaking across the southern border or not, I don't know how any sane individual, especially in this day and age, could argue against border security. I don't care WHO'S trying to sneak over. I just want them to stop sneaking over.

Well this is a complex issue, some want to stop illigals completly, but the current work force inferstructure with increasing pressers from foregn contries to lower prices doesn't alow us to easily do without the cheap labor the continualy crosses the border, the only solution to this problem is to ettempt to creat a kind of filter that alowsus to identify the folks who just come to work from those scarey cultesk militaint Islamics.

Alot of people are unhappy with the way things are, the government is taking too much time with this, so some people start to form Vigilantie groups like the Minute Men and try to do the job the way they think it should be done. Results may vary.

I've given this alot of thought since the issue was first revield through the news a good, year or two ago (nobody is faster than the Feds when it comes to doing nothing) and my idea is to work with the Mexican and other nearby (doubt Cuba would be responsive though) nations we recieve our migrant worker force from and work out the work visa issue coupled with a passport issued by the nation of origin. Make it dirt easy for the worker to get into this nation, while keeping records of who passed by the check point. In addition the nation of origin would keep records of passports, comfirming identities, and making less likely that these folks would try to sneek in. Two forms of ID and a regisration system.

Couple this system with an "emediate deport if you have no green card" policie, but make it easy for them to register for both Visa and Passport and then stay anyway, and they will flok to get the proper documention and be registerd.

We can not really stop them from coming into this nation, what we can do is displace alot of inocent people, or try to regulate the issue using new networking technologie and an efficeint filing and data procesing system, by the way isnt that one of the jobs of Home Land Security anyway.

Just for the record this patch thing sounds like a plant. A little misinformation to put alittle scare into the general population and get the issue of debat to go more your way. Not that items of concern have not been found, but the patches sort higher shock factor, really bring it to the peoples attention.