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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:00 am
by Nick012000
Rokas: Well, from an evolutionary standpoint, cows have a sweet deal. They get raised, fed, and have lots of calves. Then they die. Much less disease, predation, starvation, etc. than their wild ancestors.

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:34 am
by MikeVanPelt
nick012000 wrote:Rokas: Well, from an evolutionary standpoint, cows have a sweet deal. They get raised, fed, and have lots of calves. Then they die. Much less disease, predation, starvation, etc. than their wild ancestors.
That's one way of looking at it -- the most successful adaptation there is in today's world is to be valuable to humans, and be easily domesticatable. There are more domestic cattle, more widely spread, then there ever were aurocs.

On the other hand, aurocs (wild cattle) are extinct. They existed in Biblical times (the mentions of "wild bulls of Bashan" in Psalms are aurocs) but not any more. (Based on David's description, the wild ones were pretty vicious.)

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:40 am
by Madmoonie
And they are quite tasty!

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:26 am
by Kerry Skydancer
MikeVanPelt wrote:
nick012000 wrote:Rokas: Well, from an evolutionary standpoint, cows have a sweet deal. They get raised, fed, and have lots of calves. Then they die. Much less disease, predation, starvation, etc. than their wild ancestors.
That's one way of looking at it -- the most successful adaptation there is in today's world is to be valuable to humans, and be easily domesticatable. There are more domestic cattle, more widely spread, then there ever were aurocs.

On the other hand, aurocs (wild cattle) are extinct. They existed in Biblical times (the mentions of "wild bulls of Bashan" in Psalms are aurocs) but not any more. (Based on David's description, the wild ones were pretty vicious.)
Not quite, actually. The genes are still there, and I understand they've been bred back to a small herd somewhere. But they're not extinct in the biological sense anyway, since they've left plenty of descendants. Same with horses, and with wolves; if the wild ones get wiped out somehow, there's still plenty of domesticated ones.

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:10 pm
by SolidusRaccoon
And another idea, a great way to screen at the airport. Free complimentary bacon, each passenger must eat a slice before boarding.

Or have all the seats covered in pigskin leather, so every passenger would have to touch pig. That’s a big no no among the muslime freaks. So no matter how much of a “glorious” jihad death they die, they will still have had to touch pig. And that means one ticket to hell for them

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:31 pm
by Maxgoof
Except that would mean no one who was jewish could fly, either.

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:38 pm
by Shyal_malkes
I wish there was a way to create just enough energy flow around but not through the human body to artificially set off any explosives. when forced to go through an isolated chamber that sets off explosives but doesn't otherswise harm the body it'd be a rather large deterrent imo to terrorists. and if the people on the planes could actually keep stores of smaller weapons within access of the pilots and the flight attendants it'd make it that much harder (again imo) to hijack the plane in the first place.


that or it's just me fuming

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:46 pm
by UncleMonty
SolidusRaccoon wrote:And another idea, a great way to screen at the airport. Free complimentary bacon, each passenger must eat a slice before boarding.

Or have all the seats covered in pigskin leather, so every passenger would have to touch pig. That’s a big no no among the muslime freaks. So no matter how much of a “glorious” jihad death they die, they will still have had to touch pig. And that means one ticket to hell for them
An interesting idea, except for the Jewish thing... After all, Mohammed plagiarized Judism to create Islam (though he added lots of violence, and that whole teenage-wet-dream about the virgins, to help draw a paying crowd) so they hold to the same general dietary laws and restrictions...

But several Islamic terrorists have behaved shamefully in an attempt to "blend in" with other societies. I can only assume they have received some sort of pre-forgiveness for whatever sins they may commit / enjoy along their self-righteous path to mass murder. That free ticket they got probably covers sitting on a pigskin airline seat.

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:41 pm
by Kerry Skydancer
It does. Muslim is a bully's religion - in addition to having carte blanche to beat up or lie to non-Muslims, there is no requirement to behave honorably when you're outnumbered. Where a Christian or Jewish fanatic could probably be caught by the expedient of asking him to desecrate his own religious symbols, a Muslim automatically gets dispensation to do whatever cowardly thing is needed to infiltrate the enemy. So unfortunately, the self-desecration ideas -also- assume that they think the way we do... which they don't.

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:01 pm
by The JAM
Yup. The 9/11 gang seems to have spent a lot of credit card money on hookers and drugs before the big day....I think.

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:10 pm
by EdBecerra
Kerry Skydancer wrote:It does. Muslim is a bully's religion - in addition to having carte blanche to beat up or lie to non-Muslims, there is no requirement to behave honorably when you're outnumbered. Where a Christian or Jewish fanatic could probably be caught by the expedient of asking him to desecrate his own religious symbols, a Muslim automatically gets dispensation to do whatever cowardly thing is needed to infiltrate the enemy. So unfortunately, the self-desecration ideas -also- assume that they think the way we do... which they don't.
The english author Richard Avery spoke about that in his short series, "The Expendables". One of the characters who didn't survive the novel he appeared in was Arabic, and when a crewmate sees Ahmad drinking alcohol and questions him on it, Ahmad replies that as an Expendable, he's doing something good for the whole of Mankind. Which means that he's doing something good for all of Islam (by default). And that his imam had given him advance permission to drink, wench, and party in return for the future services Ahmad would be giving to Islam.

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:01 am
by SolidusRaccoon
That's why I had the second idea, While Jews are forbidden to eat pork, I think they can still have contact with pigskin for example. While Muslims acts like any form of pig is kryptonite. Remember the case where a Muslim threw a hissy fit over a figure of Piglet? Even looking at one is anathema to them.

And the Koran does say to act like an honorless bloodthirsty coward, so they really weren’t breaking any of their rules when they commit their atrocities

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:05 am
by Kerry Skydancer
Still won't work. Muslims who -aren't- planning to blow up a plane will scream bloody murder about discrimination, and the ACLU will undoubtedly join in the festivities.

Suicide bombers will happily eat the bacon, secure in the knowledge that they will be forgiven since the act is necessary to their intention to blow up a planeload of infidels for the greater glory of the Dar Al Islam.

The religion lends itself to this sort of perversion, which is why it may yet be necessary to eradicate it. Ba'hai seems to be its version of the Protestant Reformation, but they are systematically killing everyone they can find who converts to it in most Muslim nations.

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:21 am
by TMLutas
SolidusRaccoon wrote:And another idea, a great way to screen at the airport. Free complimentary bacon, each passenger must eat a slice before boarding.

Or have all the seats covered in pigskin leather, so every passenger would have to touch pig. That’s a big no no among the muslime freaks. So no matter how much of a “glorious” jihad death they die, they will still have had to touch pig. And that means one ticket to hell for them
I won't break a religious fast for a flight check and that's pretty much every Wednesday or Friday for eastern apostolic christians (Orthodox Church and Byzantine Catholic) plus great chunks of spring and winter for the pre-christmas and pre-easter fasts.

The pigskin leather might be an interesting seating option but those planes are likely *not* flying into KSA for the Haj.

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:24 am
by TMLutas
SolidusRaccoon wrote:That's why I had the second idea, While Jews are forbidden to eat pork, I think they can still have contact with pigskin for example. While Muslims acts like any form of pig is kryptonite. Remember the case where a Muslim threw a hissy fit over a figure of Piglet? Even looking at one is anathema to them.
It very much depends on the jew, or more properly speaking, the section of judaism that a particular jew belongs to. Some of the very orthodox jews like satmars might have serious problems with pigskin leather.

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:38 pm
by Namrepus221
Can't we have one thread here that doesn't turn into a religious arguement or something stupid like that?

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:11 pm
by BrockthePaine
Madmoonie wrote:
BrockthePaine wrote:The reason I prefer to carry a gun is because it is the Great Equalizer. When I am armed, I (all weakling 155lbs of me) is equal to the 280lb bodybuilding trackstar football-rushingback druggie drunken freak who wants my wallet and car keys. I am Equal.

I am not the sheep, I am the sheepdog.
And I am dirt, bloody poor and can't afford one even if I wanted one.

(which I do actually.)
What kinda gun you looking for?

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:36 pm
by The JAM
One that shoots?