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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:28 am
by Rokas
Kerry Skydancer wrote:
The Left thinks the Right is evil. The Right thinks the Left is -stupid-.
The Right has a lot more evidence.
Skydancer
That is über, and it's going right into the quote file on my comp.

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:42 pm
by Sharuuk
I'm gonna make a t-shirt out of it!
S'aaruuk
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:52 pm
by UncleMonty
Hmmm... I would've said "foolish" instead of "stupid", but I guess that's just nit-picking.

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:24 pm
by Jwrebholz
Anthony Lion wrote:kitwulfen wrote:3. Cheapskate, lazy gunmen are the best marksmen. A, they don't wanna spend the money on more bullets and B, they don't wanna carry them all. So they get better aim. Be lazy--do it right the first time and you don't have to do it again.
Gonna have to go with, "wrong" on this one. Shooting is a skill that's acquired through practice. In order to get into the range of "superb" or "best," you have to send thousands upon thousands upon thousands of rounds downrange to build muscle memory and practice technique. Bump-firing and just squeezin them off doesn't count. You don't get to be
this good by being lazy.
I don't think that's what he meant...
I'm a 'lazy' gunner myself, in the way that I take my time to aim and fire the weapon instead of just dumping a truckload of lead at the target. If I can hit it with one bullet, why waste a magazine?
(I was considered a good shot with the AG-3, a Norwegian built version of the H&K G3, and that weapon isn't exactly listed under 'Accurate' in any Encyclopaedias... )
What you were thinking of was bloody idiots, the kind who takes a rifle to go deer-hunting once every year without firing a single shot as practice the rest of the year...
Every time I see or hear about that kind I feel an overwhelming urge to violate the hole they sit on with the barrel of their weapons...
You, sir, get my meaning. The other guy didn't. Lazy people--the smart lazy people--do it right the first time. One shot, one kill. So a good gunman will be both lazy and cheap--lazy because he doesn't want to have to pull that trigger more times than he absolutely must, and cheap because, well, ammo can be expensive, and if you miss you're wasting ammo. See?
With archery though the cheap part doesn't apply--the ammunition is quite easily reusable. You pull it out of whatever you just shot, make sure the arrow/bolt isn't damaged, and drop it back in your quiver. (and yes, I know it's possible to reload cartridges)
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:30 pm
by Anthony Lion
jwrebholz wrote:
With archery though the cheap part doesn't apply--the ammunition is quite easily reusable. You pull it out of whatever you just shot, make sure the arrow/bolt isn't damaged, and drop it back in your quiver. (and yes, I know it's possible to reload cartridges)
Nope.
The classic Bodkin arrowpoints was made of very poor quality metal and would usually bend when it hit something. A rock, someone's spine, a piece of oak, whatever. Very few arrows could be reused during battle, and afterwards it was easier to just make new arrowpoints than to repair the old ones...
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:32 am
by Kitwulfen
jwrebholz wrote:You, sir, get my meaning. The other guy didn't. Lazy people--the smart lazy people--do it right the first time. One shot, one kill. So a good gunman will be both lazy and cheap--lazy because he doesn't want to have to pull that trigger more times than he absolutely must, and cheap because, well, ammo can be expensive, and if you miss you're wasting ammo. See?
To become the best requires dedication and practice, not just making sure you hit the x the first time cause you're too lazy to pull the trigger again. The phrase you parrot, "One shot, one kill" was borne from Vietnam. US snipers expended 1.3 bullets per kill there, whereas your average grunt with an M16A2 expended over 10,000 rounds for a single kill. Do you think they got that way by being cheap and lazy? No, they didn't.
Missing is not wasting ammo. You still have had the experience of pulling the trigger, and you can learn from your mistakes and not repeat them. Doing mag dumps into a hillside is wasting ammo.