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- Wanderwolf
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<salute> Okay, I'm back. Downloaded the lovely and interesting Gravitation3D, and input a number of variables. Here's the verdict:
<waves the white flag>
You guessed it: It *is* possible for the system to work, and work pretty well. This is assuming the following:
1. Caashey is twice the size of Luna, but the same mass. (Increasing the mass exponent by 1 slingshotted Abhall straight out of the system every Stime.)
2. Abhall is half the size of Luna, with a mass exponent reduced by 1.
3. Aerith is the same size and mass as Earth.
4. A stable orbit around the sun. (G3D isn't quite perfect... I couldn't get Sun-Earth-Moon to work right, much less Sun/Aerith/Caashey/Abhall.)
I concede the point, with the proviso that "special circumstances" are required for the solution. Also, please remember your Kepler: Abhall should have half the periodicity of Luna, orbiting Aerith once every 18.65 days, while Caashey orbits every 27.3; thus, Caashey should be in the sky only half as often as Abhall.
You're gettin' tides out the yin-yang, though... Aerith did a drunkard's walk all over the starmap.
Yours truly,
The researching,
Wanderer
<waves the white flag>
You guessed it: It *is* possible for the system to work, and work pretty well. This is assuming the following:
1. Caashey is twice the size of Luna, but the same mass. (Increasing the mass exponent by 1 slingshotted Abhall straight out of the system every Stime.)
2. Abhall is half the size of Luna, with a mass exponent reduced by 1.
3. Aerith is the same size and mass as Earth.
4. A stable orbit around the sun. (G3D isn't quite perfect... I couldn't get Sun-Earth-Moon to work right, much less Sun/Aerith/Caashey/Abhall.)
I concede the point, with the proviso that "special circumstances" are required for the solution. Also, please remember your Kepler: Abhall should have half the periodicity of Luna, orbiting Aerith once every 18.65 days, while Caashey orbits every 27.3; thus, Caashey should be in the sky only half as often as Abhall.
You're gettin' tides out the yin-yang, though... Aerith did a drunkard's walk all over the starmap.
Yours truly,
The researching,
Wanderer
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ARGH! I need to be working, not making planetary systems!Wanderwolf wrote:Downloaded the lovely and interesting Gravitation3D.
*Click, click, click, click...*
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Anyone guess yet? My bet is the Goodyear Blimp. And I will want a cookie.Rokas wrote:*Blinks* I woulda thought that the "thing in the sky" woulda been obvious...
Meh, I'll explain it, soon enough. Although whoever gets it before I write it out gets a cookie.
p.s. I havent read the second one yet so its a valid guess.
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Actually, regarding the whole "two moons" debate, I thought we had beaten that topic to death last year. IIRC Kerry and Aurrin were the primary contributors. Thae end result was that it was in fact possible to have such a system. I think the only rarity was having both moons in the sky at the same time.
I forget if we had discussed tidal forces or such similar things...
I forget if we had discussed tidal forces or such similar things...
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Well, the "drunkard's walk" was just a more extreme form of libration, which occurs in the Earth-Moon system all the time. It's momentum on a grand scale: That which pulls is also pulled.Tbolt wrote:Actually, regarding the whole "two moons" debate, I thought we had beaten that topic to death last year. IIRC Kerry and Aurrin were the primary contributors. Thae end result was that it was in fact possible to have such a system. I think the only rarity was having both moons in the sky at the same time.
I forget if we had discussed tidal forces or such similar things...
I'll keep fiddling to see if I can get a sun into this system...
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The astronomical,
Wanderer
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I'd love to, believe me. Unfortunately, I'm only two paychecks into my job at Wal-Mart as a cashier, and we can't accept tips.:/ Utilities first, Brock; luxuries second.BrockthePaine wrote:Wanderwolf, try buying the UberCD, it has some notes on the Aerith-Abhall-Caashey system which give you numbers to plug into your equations.
Yours wearily,
The hard-working,
Wanderer
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My deepest sympathies. I did that job one summer during college... I hated it. At least I got a few oddities, occasionally...Wanderwolf wrote:I'd love to, believe me. Unfortunately, I'm only two paychecks into my job at Wal-Mart as a cashier, and we can't accept tips.:/ Utilities first, Brock; luxuries second.
Me: Did you find everything you were shopping for, sir?
Customer: No.
Me: No?
Customer: No. I couldn't figure out where you stocked the good-looking redheads.
Me: *Snerk* Perhaps you should try looking in the fabrics department, sir; we occasionally have some in stock...
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“To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” - Richard Henry Lee
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Pfft. That's nothing. Try explaining to someone who only has a nodding accquantence with English the fact that their factory warranty doesn't cover them bending their mower's crankshaft by running over a tree stump. It's called "customer abuse" 'cuz you weren't looking where you were going, numbnuts.
Heck, I've had people go ballistic at me because I couldn't find a part for their appliance because they didn't have any information. I mean, c'mon, do you go looking for car parts by just telling the guy behind the counter that, "it's a Honda. Aren't they all the same?" Yet people think it's just dandy to say, "It's a Kenmore, aren't they all the same?" NO, THEY ARE NOT ALL THE SAME. IF THEY WERE, I WOULDN'T BE ASKING FOR YOUR MODEL NUMBER YOU BRAINLESS DOLT!
*Takes in a deep breath*
Dont' get me started on directions... Lord knows how these people remain alive when they don't know how to follow "take a right and go down a mile, we'll be on your left."
Heck, I've had people go ballistic at me because I couldn't find a part for their appliance because they didn't have any information. I mean, c'mon, do you go looking for car parts by just telling the guy behind the counter that, "it's a Honda. Aren't they all the same?" Yet people think it's just dandy to say, "It's a Kenmore, aren't they all the same?" NO, THEY ARE NOT ALL THE SAME. IF THEY WERE, I WOULDN'T BE ASKING FOR YOUR MODEL NUMBER YOU BRAINLESS DOLT!
*Takes in a deep breath*
Dont' get me started on directions... Lord knows how these people remain alive when they don't know how to follow "take a right and go down a mile, we'll be on your left."
I really don't care anymore.
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Wurfle!
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The last month I was working at Walmart, we had to type in a driver's license State and Number for orders over a specific amount. One night a guy comes in and buys $200 of food, and the computer asks for his State and DL#.
HE GIVES ME A RUSSIAN DRIVER'S LICENSE!!
So here I am, unable to read Cyrillic and unable to convince the computer to accept a non-US or Canadian state, and until I do, I can't process his check which means that he can't leave. I call over my boss who is just as clueless as me to figure out how to enter "Lipetsk" as a state, and how to type Cyrillic numbers on an English-only keypad...
That was a loooooong night...
HE GIVES ME A RUSSIAN DRIVER'S LICENSE!!
So here I am, unable to read Cyrillic and unable to convince the computer to accept a non-US or Canadian state, and until I do, I can't process his check which means that he can't leave. I call over my boss who is just as clueless as me to figure out how to enter "Lipetsk" as a state, and how to type Cyrillic numbers on an English-only keypad...
That was a loooooong night...
It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men. - attributed to Samuel Adams
“To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” - Richard Henry Lee
“To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” - Richard Henry Lee
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Humph. Try someone who wants a part off a refridgerator that's still in Venezula, or a pressure washer in England. Not to mention that Russian lady that had me reorder the same freakin' part five times because each time it had a tiny scratch on the plastic...
Although Englishmen are kind of funny when they get mad. That accent doesn't make 'em very threatening, and their sunburned faces make it hard to tell if they're really ticked or not.
Although Englishmen are kind of funny when they get mad. That accent doesn't make 'em very threatening, and their sunburned faces make it hard to tell if they're really ticked or not.
I really don't care anymore.
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Wurfle!
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Wurfle!
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Thank GOD almighty I no longer work in retail. I was a bagger and one particular customer is in my memory. After he chows my friend (the cashier I was working) for not having ham at our salad bar (which of course we were responsible for) my friend sincerily apologizes for the lack of the thing he wanted, he growls back, 'No you're not.' After he angrily stalks away, we look at each other and say almost in unison, "Nope, we're not."The JAM wrote:I guess I'm on another part of the spectrum. I have to deal with dolts who can't use MS Excel if their lives depended on it.
Now I just have to convince company reps that an one inch image is not good enough for a full page ad. But I love my job. I really do.
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I know the type. I-D-10-T. PBKAC. Loose nut behind the keyboard.The JAM wrote:I guess I'm on another part of the spectrum. I have to deal with dolts who can't use MS Excel if their lives depended on it.
Computer Stupidities:
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