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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:48 pm
by MikeVanPelt
Yeah, sad... it's one of those points in the story where I feel like all the oxygen just got sucked out of the room.
I hope I'm wrong in my feeling that the narration is from the end of Quentyn's life, 250 years from now, that he's writing this, oh, at the age of 25 or 30 or so (recalling he's ... what, 15 or 16 now? Certainly not as old as 20, as he became Questor at the age of 14) and there's still plenty of time, even if he's got a decade or two more behind him.
I want him to end his days in Freeman Downs, content with a job well done, surrounded by grandchildren, great grandchildren, and great-great grandchildren who hang on every word of his marvelous stories.
That seems rather unlikely, though.
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:51 pm
by DragonMasterHawk
Well, I've got to hand it to Ralph. I've been pretty indifferent to everything that's happened since the Wight arc. Honestly, I think it's been pretty bland until this comic.
So, congrats, Ralph. You've made me really, really hate you, and you can only take that as a compliment.
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:59 pm
by GrayTiger
I half wonder if that swamp girl he saved will end up stowing away. Abilities like hers may prove very useful outside the wall.
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:15 pm
by Jaydub
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:03 pm
by BrockthePaine
Jaydub wrote:On a brighter note, I wonder how much high stepping Quintyn will be doing at the dance tonight? After all he is wearing his Lux boots....

*Snerk!*
Personally, I'm not expecting anyone to go with him outside the mistwall... yet. If someone does, it wouldn't surprise me... but if no one does, then that wouldn't surprise me either.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:41 am
by TGIF
What makes this so sad is I had expected Kes to end up coming with him on the trip.
As for giving up - he doesn't have that option, unless he wants everyone to lose their homes.
Kes had been the only serious candidate for a sweetheart for him. Meribeth is too old for him, and the swamp girl is too young. So an additional part of the sadness is that this leaves
nobody as a "probable possible" for him.
To make things even worse, this is a very sad note to leave on if the comic is going on hiatus.
TGIF
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:15 pm
by Earl McClaw
TGIF wrote:So an additional part of the sadness is that this leaves
nobody as a "probable possible" for him.
Then again I'd say it fits. Stories aside, being a Questor (or any similar "adventuring" profession) is going to be lonely. There are frequent times such a person must go off alone, which puts a strain on permanent relations.
Of course, that doesn't allow for the possibility of a female counterpart. But the odds of such a someone also meshing with Quentyn (and, of course, the two of them falling in love) are even longer than her existance.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:44 pm
by Jwrebholz
If David Spade can get Heather Locklear, there's hope for Quentyn.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:00 pm
by Nick012000
Earl McClaw wrote:TGIF wrote:So an additional part of the sadness is that this leaves
nobody as a "probable possible" for him.
Then again I'd say it fits. Stories aside, being a Questor (or any similar "adventuring" profession) is going to be lonely. There are frequent times such a person must go off alone, which puts a strain on permanent relations.
Of course, that doesn't allow for the possibility of a female counterpart. But the odds of such a someone also meshing with Quentyn (and, of course, the two of them falling in love) are even longer than her existance.
So, the odds for Quentin would be best if he winds up getting in a "friends with benefits" sort of situation. No worries about your partner cheating in you while you're away, because you've already agreed that you both are free to sleep with other people. Additionally, he wouldn't have to turn away any offers of casual sex like he would if he were in a more committed relationship.
That said, I doubt that Quentin would, simply because of how strongly religious he is.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:10 pm
by MikeVanPelt
Earl McClaw wrote:TGIF wrote:So an additional part of the sadness is that this leaves
nobody as a "probable possible" for him.
Then again I'd say it fits. Stories aside, being a Questor (or any similar "adventuring" profession) is going to be lonely. There are frequent times such a person must go off alone, which puts a strain on permanent relations.
Though, recall...
Who did Quentyn of Ridgedale entrust with selling the land to the people of the new village of Freeman Downs?
His daughter.
So, somewhere along the line, O'Ridgedale found a relationship.
My thinking is, yes it's a strain.
It's a strain for the spouses of police, firefighters, and soldiers. Especially soldiers, who must go off sometimes for long periods, maybe years at a time.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:17 pm
by Nick012000
Not neccesarily. Quentin of Ridgedale's daughter could have been the result of a fling.
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:03 am
by MikeVanPelt
nick012000 wrote:Not neccesarily. Quentin of Ridgedale's daughter could have been the result of a fling.
Possibly. There's some indication that Ridgedale was a bit of a rogue, such as lifting the Scout Handbook for the appropriate sections of his book. (Keeping in mind, of course, that today's copyright ethic may not have any counterpart in Rac Conan law or custom; copyright as we know it is a fairly recent innovation, and would be a completely alien concept to most humans throughout most of human history.)
However, there was obviously some sort of continuing relationship for Ridgedale to have known his daughter well enough to have entrusted her with something as big as distributing all that valuable land for a fraction of its true value.
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:52 am
by Tom Mazanec
If Q of Ridgedale was enough of a rogue to have an illegitemite daughter, would someone as moral and ethical as Q of Freeman Downs look up to him so?
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:18 am
by Sableneko
Tom Mazanec wrote:If Q of Ridgedale was enough of a rogue to have an illegitemite daughter, would someone as moral and ethical as Q of Freeman Downs look up to him so?
Because history has a way of leaving out the negative details on their heroes. Just look at the US's past. We completely villainize our enemies, and glorify our heroes. Read any history on World War 2 published in the US and you'll notice that there is NOTHING bad written about President F.D. Roosevelt.
Because of historical bias, nobody can understand why the villains do things, just that they did them. It makes things difficult when trying to get an unbiased view of the past.
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:36 pm
by Rokas
History IS written by the victors, of course...
"History shall be kind to me for I intend to write it." -Sir Winston Churchill
As for the "friends with benefits" comment... Neg. That is not in his character. And the old Quentyn might've been a rogue, but somethin' makes me wonder 'bout that, since he obviously went out on a near-suicidal quest of his own (hence new Quentyn's perdicament [And yes, I know that I cannot spell]).
Still, I'm more interested in what happens to Quentyn after he leaves... And what sorts of humans may become involved. Hopefully, we'll see that not all humans in that world are scum-sucking frogknockers.
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:27 pm
by Earl McClaw
Rokas wrote:As for the "friends with benefits" comment... Neg. That is not in his character.
I quite agree, which makes Quentyn's situation even more unpleasant. Impossible? No. But at this point it's unlikely for him to meet someone he can successfully make his full partner in life.
Of course, he's become Questor, an accomplishment and profession lending itself to beating the odds.
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:04 pm
by Chaser617
Earl McClaw wrote:Rokas wrote:As for the "friends with benefits" comment... Neg. That is not in his character.
I quite agree, which makes Quentyn's situation even more unpleasant. Impossible? No. But at this point it's unlikely for him to meet someone he can successfully make his full partner in life.
Of course, he's become Questor, an accomplishment and profession lending itself to beating the odds.
Then there are us people who are complete and utter romantics at heart that beleive that he should find love...
Heck, considering all the women he's come across, Kess, Meribeth, Nessie, the artist girl from the F&O and that one servent girl at Conner's place....
He seems to be quite the lady's rac without even realizing it...
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:58 pm
by StrangeWulf13
nick012000 wrote:So, the odds for Quentin would be best if he winds up getting in a "friends with benefits" sort of situation. No worries about your partner cheating in you while you're away, because you've already agreed that you both are free to sleep with other people. Additionally, he wouldn't have to turn away any offers of casual sex like he would if he were in a more committed relationship.
That said, I doubt that Quentin would, simply because of how strongly religious he is.
It's also doubtful because he'd be ostracized for asking her! This ain't the US or even the Tumbledowns! It's a small village that still acts like it! There's no such thing as "friends with benfits" here. Period.
Honestly! The very suggestion displays an ignorance of Rac Conan culture and their morals. I almost wish Kestral heard that so she could slap your face, as you deserve!
*grumblemutterswear* Not all fantasy characters jump in the sack when they have to say goodbye, and not everyone is afraid of dying a virgin...
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:59 pm
by Nick012000
MikeVanPelt wrote:nick012000 wrote:Not neccesarily. Quentin of Ridgedale's daughter could have been the result of a fling.
Possibly. There's some indication that Ridgedale was a bit of a rogue, such as lifting the Scout Handbook for the appropriate sections of his book. (Keeping in mind, of course, that today's copyright ethic may not have any counterpart in Rac Conan law or custom; copyright as we know it is a fairly recent innovation, and would be a completely alien concept to most humans throughout most of human history.)
However, there was obviously some sort of continuing relationship for Ridgedale to have known his daughter well enough to have entrusted her with something as big as distributing all that valuable land for a fraction of its true value.
Well, he might have had a relationship with his daughter, even if he didn't have one with the mother.
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:15 pm
by Madmoonie
Chaser617 wrote:Then there are us people who are complete and utter romantics at heart that beleive that he should find love
*raises mug
Hear, hear!