Shwepie wrote:
I dug around the site for a moment after posting the link and saw that it is Muslim. I'm not Muslim, but the guy still makes a interesting point and that's what I was trying to show.
Given the most charitable interpretation, the guy is downright sloppy.
Finally, in order to seal the proof of this matter and to dispel any lingering doubt that may remain in the reader's mind, the reader is encouraged to obtain a copy of the "New English Bible." In it they will find the translations of the quoted verses to read:
"bowed to the ground" (2:11);
"fell at his feet" (14:33);
"falling prostrate before him" (28:9), and
"fell prostrate before him" (28:17)...etc.
Please also read the translation of these verses in "The Complete Bible, an American Translation" By Edward Goodspeed and J. M. Powis Smith where they are once again honestly translated as:
"they threw themselves down and did homage to him" (2:11),
"fell down before him"(14:33),
"and they went up to him and clasped his feed and bowed to the ground before him" (28:9), and
"bowed down before him"(28:17), etc.
Once again, we remember that such sublime manipulation of the translation in order to establish with the reader a chosen doctrine was exposed by God in the noble Qur'an. The Qur'an says:
"There is among them a party who distort the Scripture with their tongues that you might think that it is from the Scripture, when it is not from the Scripture; and they say, 'It is from God,' but it is not from God; and they speak a lie against God, and [well] they know it!"
The Qur'an, A'al-Umran(3):78
Jews did not prostrate themselves before anybody. It was and remains a gravely sinful act. For people to fall over themselves prostrating before Jesus *was* an act of worship. Go ask a religious jew when it's ok to prostrate before a human being and you'll get an earful on how the answer is "never".
The Qu'ran says a number of things. One of the major claims of Islam is that this book has never been changed. Yet this is a lie. Muslims are book burners par excellance but a few ancient Qu'rans have been discovered with small variations, variations that in and of themselves are no big deal but contradict the doctrine of the unchanged Qur'an.
They constantly complain that christianity has fallen to the scribes in a sacrilege of addition through translation. Instead the muslims have fallen to the imams in a sacrilege of subtraction through book burning.
Shwepie wrote:
As for my religious sect? I don't really have one, I have wandered in and out of so many and left with disappointment each time, that I've taken to studying the bible on my own.
I have several differant bibles that I read over and go through. I then sit and meditate on it. If I do not understand I will meditate more and pray for understanding then read over it again.
If I have any questions I want answered right away, I ask my friend what verses I should look up. She'll then give me scriptures and I'll read the whole chapter they are in, sometimes the ones before and after to, so I don't get it out of context.
If you are curious, she is a Jehova's Witness. Again, I don't belong to a religious sect of any kind.
The JW used to predict the end of the world and gave a series of dates:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/witness8.htm
Unfortunately, the JW didn't follow the normal pattern of sects that set an end-of-the-world date that's expired. Usually, such groups grow disillusioned and break apart. Not the JH! They've given up since their last one but the organization keeps on going and changing its doctrines as the old ones become inconvenient.
Here's evidence of JH previously being in favor of worshipping God the Son.
http://www.letusreason.org/JW17.htm
If you're using somebody who is a Witness as a spiritual guide, you are in grave peril of going astray.
