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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:10 pm
by Jaydub
Lou Leghorn wrote:I wonder... when Quentyn gets out of sight of the CoE and the other villagers after giving a lecture like that

, will it catch up to him like it did after he
gave the Royals gang leader a lecture 
?
Jaydub wrote:"Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do."
Okay, I know I'm going to slap my forehead and say
Duh!! 
, but who *is* this quote attributed to?
Heck, I was only asking about the "Nuts" reference. This forum is pretty smart and came up with all the others but the first which is just a common phrase that I have heard around. I don't know if it is attributed to any one person.
Gotta love this forum.

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:00 pm
by Capnregex
Lou Leghorn wrote:I wonder... when Quentyn gets out of sight of the CoE and the other villagers after giving a lecture like that

, will it catch up to him like it did after he
gave the Royals gang leader a lecture 
?
I would not expect it to.. This was not an expression of rage, like the Royal gang confrontation.
This was more of a ... K, I've had enough, and now I know how to say so ...
Quentyn was calm this time.. determined, but calm. With the Royal leader, he was seeing RED... The Royal leader was lucky to only get a bloody noze from the deal.
*You don't want someone to decide the only way to protect their family is to see you dead*
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:46 pm
by NydaLynn
Go Quentyn!
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:55 pm
by UncleMonty
Ah, OK. I think I understand the need for a midnight calling-out.
I had assumed that all meetings by the Council of Elders were public, for some reason.
If this was the only way to get the word out, well then... He did right.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:54 pm
by Cuerden
Madmoonie wrote:There is only one little thing that I would have problem with what Quentyn says....its when he says that he doesn't care who sent that letter offering a "concession." I would be rather annoyed and concerned about who in the CoE has taken it upon themselves to act outside of the Council's jurisidiction, role, and sanction. Its a bad thing when those in power violate their own rules, for what THEY think is best, not necessarily the council (or whatever governing body you might want.) Other than that, Quentyn is perfectly justified in ignoring the Council's sanction. He has not done anything wrong, save gain attention for doing somethng he was not supposed to finish in the first place. Quentyn has done nothing wrong. The Council has.
Ah, but he can rest assured that whoever tried it won't try it again, because she knows he'll bring it straight to them.
Re: He stuck it to them.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:45 pm
by Rave
I'm more sympathetic with Quentyn in this set of panels. It seems principled to be willing to give up the title for autonomy. Maybe, as it turns out, it was really the council that wanted it both ways, and not Quentyn so much. But this bit with the council turning out to not even have real power is kind of confusing.
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:10 am
by TGIF
UncleMonty wrote:Ah, OK. I think I understand the need for a midnight calling-out.
I had assumed that all meetings by the Council of Elders were public, for some reason.
If this was the only way to get the word out, well then... He did right.
Actually, that's the one thing that I
don't understand.
He needed to tell them off, and he needed to do it in public.
But why in the world did he have to do it in the middle of the night? If even my best friend woke me up in the middle of the night for something that didn't need doing until morning, I for one would have difficulty being as sympathetic to his request or open to his statements than if he called me at a normal hour.
TGIF
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:11 am
by Sehvekah
Rave wrote:But this bit with the council turning out to not even have real power is kind of confusing.
Typical small town behavior. They have no official power, but between their capasity as an advisory counsil, and the popularity contest that is life in small towns, most tend, however sadly, to follow that advice as if there is any real power behind it(Experience, yes. Wisdom, perhaps. Intelligence is also a distinct possibility. But no power).
Yes, the things they say should be taken into consideration,
but that is it. Blindly following their advice because of age or some cerimonial title, that's just plain stupid.
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:36 am
by Jace
He did it in the middle of the night because that's when he got the message... and because it's the one time he could guaran-damn-tee he had a captive audience after ringing the bell.
As for the Council having power... I think Sehvekah's on the money. Note that Quentyn says that nobody acts like the council is merely an advisory body... and even HE didn't at first.
As for Lady Rose looking embarrassed... I think it relates directly to the word balloon above her head. Remember, she was one of the ones most concerned about how Quentyn's actions reflected on the 'image' of the village. She DID try to punish Quentyn for acting 'too much like a Questor'. She proposed the censure.
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:29 am
by JakeWasHere
Jace wrote:As for Lady Rose looking embarrassed... I think it relates directly to the word balloon above her head. Remember, she was one of the ones most concerned about how Quentyn's actions reflected on the 'image' of the village. She DID try to punish Quentyn for acting 'too much like a Questor'. She proposed the censure.
Wouldn't surprise me if that damn letter turned out to be from her as well. All those proposals in the letter are meant EXACTLY to reinforce the image of the Questor that Rose wants to maintain.
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:00 pm
by Jace
JakeWasHere wrote:Wouldn't surprise me if that damn letter turned out to be from her as well. All those proposals in the letter are meant EXACTLY to reinforce the image of the Questor that Rose wants to maintain.
I'm not ruling that out, I'm just saying what I think most likely the reason for her blushing. The letter COULD fall under 'punishment for being too much like a Questor', sure.
It's just a common visual trick to have someone be speaking about someone else, even in vague terms, and have the camera or viewpoint focus on that person or persons for a moment. And in comics, they substitute by showing that person with the speaker's word bubble over/near them.
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:06 pm
by DB3
Here's my question about the letter...I thought this Quentyn was the first questor of Freeman Downs...
http://npc.comicgenesis.com/d/20020825.html
...contrary to what is says in the letter.
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:24 pm
by Jace
The Questor of Freeman Downs in the letter is the FOUNDER of Freeman Downs. He would have been its Questor then, but perhaps not officially the way our Quentyn is. That Questor was Quentyn of
Ridgedale.
Quentyn, however, I would say he's the first Rac'conan to be named Questor BY Freeman Downs.
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:13 pm
by Maxgoof
TGIF wrote:But why in the world did he have to do it in the middle of the night? If even my best friend woke me up in the middle of the night for something that didn't need doing until morning, I for one would have difficulty being as sympathetic to his request or open to his statements than if he called me at a normal hour.
If you left a note on your best friend's pillow asking him to do things that he found absolutely and totally unacceptable, and then went off to bed yourself, I would not blame your friend for waking you up in the middle of the night, and telling you, "Forget it!"
He held the meeting in the middle of the night because
he had gotten the note that very evening. He needed to tell them, right then and there, that it was unacceptable.
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:21 pm
by Maxgoof
There is nothing in any of the charters that says that a Questor of one village cannot be the Questor of another. It is normally not done, but there is nothing preventing it.
Quentyn of Ridgedale lived in a time when the Rac'cona Daimh were entering a time of relative peace and prosperity. As such, Questors were not needed as much as they were. So he could probably be the Questor of both villages.
How he managed it, with the villages being in opposite corners of the realm, I am not sure, but he did.
He is simply called Quentyn of Ridgedale because that was where he was born and grew up. So, even if Quentyn ends up in Sanctuary and becomes the Questor there, he would still be Quentyn of Freeman Downs.
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:58 pm
by Jace
maxgoof wrote:There is nothing in any of the charters that says that a Questor of one village cannot be the Questor of another. It is normally not done, but there is nothing preventing it.
Quentyn of Ridgedale lived in a time when the Rac'cona Daimh were entering a time of relative peace and prosperity. As such, Questors were not needed as much as they were. So he could probably be the Questor of both villages.
How he managed it, with the villages being in opposite corners of the realm, I am not sure, but he did.
He is simply called Quentyn of Ridgedale because that was where he was born and grew up. So, even if Quentyn ends up in Sanctuary and becomes the Questor there, he would still be Quentyn of Freeman Downs.
Well, didn't know any of that.
So what's your take on young Quentyn being the
first Questor of Freeman Downs?
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:07 pm
by Maxgoof
Jace wrote:maxgoof wrote:There is nothing in any of the charters that says that a Questor of one village cannot be the Questor of another. It is normally not done, but there is nothing preventing it.
Quentyn of Ridgedale lived in a time when the Rac'cona Daimh were entering a time of relative peace and prosperity. As such, Questors were not needed as much as they were. So he could probably be the Questor of both villages.
How he managed it, with the villages being in opposite corners of the realm, I am not sure, but he did.
He is simply called Quentyn of Ridgedale because that was where he was born and grew up. So, even if Quentyn ends up in Sanctuary and becomes the Questor there, he would still be Quentyn of Freeman Downs.
Well, didn't know any of that.
So what's your take on young Quentyn being the
first Questor of Freeman Downs?
If you use the preposition "of" to mean "from", it is correct. He is also the first Questor assigned to the post in Freeman Downs. Quentyn of Ridgedale got it by default, being the founder.
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:31 am
by RHJunior
maxgoof wrote:TGIF wrote:But why in the world did he have to do it in the middle of the night? If even my best friend woke me up in the middle of the night for something that didn't need doing until morning, I for one would have difficulty being as sympathetic to his request or open to his statements than if he called me at a normal hour.
If you left a note on your best friend's pillow asking him to do things that he found absolutely and totally unacceptable, and then went off to bed yourself, I would not blame your friend for waking you up in the middle of the night, and telling you, "Forget it!"
He held the meeting in the middle of the night because
he had gotten the note that very evening. He needed to tell them, right then and there, that it was unacceptable.
Plus, he WAS twisting the screws a little. Both times they called him in front of the council they did it at THEIR convenience--- heck, he'd barely got off the luftship the last time--- yet when they were supposed to present him with his badge they brushed it off as inconvenient and literally mailed it to him. Inconveniencing THEM for once had to be gratifying.
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:16 pm
by Jace
Well, if anyone WOULD know....

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:35 pm
by Maxgoof
RHJunior wrote:Plus, he WAS twisting the screws a little. Both times they called him in front of the council they did it at THEIR convenience--- heck, he'd barely got off the luftship the last time--- yet when they were supposed to present him with his badge they brushed it off as inconvenient and literally mailed it to him. Inconveniencing THEM for once had to be gratifying.
And yet Rillcreek sits there with his smile. He knows it is nothing against him personally, but against the council as a whole, and seems more than willing to indulge him.
I'm betting down inside he was busting with pride.