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Sharuuk wrote:Gilder has a good reason to scowl... ...the third passage/paragraph of Quentyn's recital has just described the CoE in general and Gilder in particular to a 'T'!

Love it......beautifully done Ralph......beautifully done.

S'aaruuk

But it also described Lady Rose, but I don't see her scowling.

maxgoof wrote:

Sharuuk wrote:Gilder has a good reason to scowl... ...the third passage/paragraph of Quentyn's recital has just described the CoE in general and Gilder in particular to a 'T'!

Love it......beautifully done Ralph......beautifully done.

S'aaruuk

But it also described Lady Rose, but I don't see her scowling.

Simple.....Lady Rose has more class.....and a better "poker face" . And speaking of her......in the previous strips the panel where they all come out and see that it's Quentyn who's woke up the whole village.....check out their expressions.

Greybeard on the right looks mildly annoyed.....Gilder...what can I say, but Lady Rose...look at her eyes....she looks positively freaked!

Which gives me pause to wonder if it was, as others have postulated, SHE who wrote the letter....and didn't think Q would respond (A) this quickly or (B) in this fashion.

Side note:

Why is it that Gilder reminds me so much of Teddy Kennedy being called on the carpet for some breach of Senate rules/ethics/etc by a freshman Republican senator....and he hasn't got a legal leg to stand on so he attempts to bullyrag and bluster his way thru it?

It just sounds & looks SOOOOOOO familiar.

S'aaruuk

The line that gets me as an interesting 'error' is "Never forget why you are a Questor." Note the words "why you are". I think it either an extremely minor error on Ralph's part, a very reasonable error for Ralph to have the fictional village questor of way back to make, or a subtly manipulative peice of retortic on the fictional author's part (weither or not Ralph was concious or instinctual in his introduction of it. In any case it seems to me as a nit-picker of details that it is (or even retroactively could be made) very effective and telling in either of the last two cases. You see the rest of what Quentin just read is NOT phrased in any way that is technically refering to personal motivations at all. Yet the initial phrasing IS so phrased. So either the author is optimistic (perhaps with good sociological/psychological reason, perhaps with only Faith in Yeshua), that such a reason would be among those that would motivate a EVERY village questor. For contrast let me offer the following senario:
Rac is a literal giant, with very good social intuition and logical thinking ability, but with only average Lux skills.
Rac wins most of childhood fistfights.
Rac likes wealth.
Rac chooses "Gaurdman" on chosing day because he thinks he would be good at it and get promoted.
Rac joins Gaurd'sman, rapidly promoted.
Rac decides he is so good that he could charge more money for his services as a freelancer, so he quits and hangs out his shingle.
Rac is successful in satisfying clients wishes.
Rac decides (rightly) he is the best questor in town and when the previous village questor retires he challenges for the position because the prestige would increase his business.
Rac wins challenge.

There you have it. The guy just likes money and is honest about how he goes about it. He ends up with the title of village questor. NOW THEN, he probably is fulfilling the described role("(wo)man of action"), to one degree or another, but such is not his main PERSONAL motivation. What the questor who wrote the words Quentin is reading is describing is the social purpose of the position of questors in general and village questors specifically. To what degree this is what in fact constituted or will in future of his receiving the book by mail constitute Quentin's own motivation are factors to be determined, although I think that in neither case is the answer 'hardly at all' even if only through intuitive/emotional understanding of the 'system bucking' tendancies of questors.

P.S. Ironically enough I have not proof read the above comments so they probably won't be of the highest quality.

I will just give this my highest recommendation.

Very well thought out comic panel.

DracoDei wrote: Rac is a literal giant, with very good social intuition and logical thinking ability, but with only average Lux skills.
Rac wins most of childhood fistfights.
Rac likes wealth.
Rac chooses "Gaurdman" on chosing day because he thinks he would be good at it and get promoted.
Rac joins Gaurd'sman, rapidly promoted.
Rac decides he is so good that he could charge more money for his services as a freelancer, so he quits and hangs out his shingle.
Rac is successful in satisfying clients wishes.
Rac decides (rightly) he is the best questor in town and when the previous village questor retires he challenges for the position because the prestige would increase his business.
Rac wins challenge.

There you have it. The guy just likes money and is honest about how he goes about it. He ends up with the title of village questor. NOW THEN, he probably is fulfilling the described role("(wo)man of action"), to one degree or another, but such is not his main PERSONAL motivation. What the questor who wrote the words Quentin is reading is describing is the social purpose of the position of questors in general and village questors specifically. To what degree this is what in fact constituted or will in future of his receiving the book by mail constitute Quentin's own motivation are factors to be determined, although I think that in neither case is the answer 'hardly at all' even if only through intuitive/emotional understanding of the 'system bucking' tendancies of questors.

P.S. Ironically enough I have not proof read the above comments so they probably won't be of the highest quality.

Only flaw in your scenario: Rac wins challenge. Remember, that the Council of Elders get to pic what form the test will take. If he does not meet with their approval, they will pick a test that he cannot pass.

I'm reminded of RH's line from the 2004-02-07 strip of UtLT/Goblin Hollow...

"We've got a deaththreat, people - this is no time for thinking - it's time for some rash, impulsive, ill-considered action! Now let's GO!!!!

heh.

EdBecerra wrote:I'm reminded of RH's line from the 2004-02-07 strip of UtLT/Goblin Hollow...

"We've got a deaththreat, people - this is no time for thinking - it's time for some rash, impulsive, ill-considered action! Now let's GO!!!!

heh.

Especially after Piff smacks the crap outta Sheldon with the clipboard....i.e...."Do I have your attention?" Great scene.

S'aaruuk

Sharuuk wrote:

EdBecerra wrote:I'm reminded of RH's line from the 2004-02-07 strip of UtLT/Goblin Hollow...

"We've got a deaththreat, people - this is no time for thinking - it's time for some rash, impulsive, ill-considered action! Now let's GO!!!!

heh.

Especially after Piff smacks the crap outta Sheldon with the clipboard....i.e...."Do I have your attention?" Great scene.

S'aaruuk

Piff, piff, piff!

Do I detect a cheerleader from the Piff Fan Club?

(smiles sheepishly) I like Piff.

I do, too.

Sharuuk
.....was this a typo on Ralph's part and the second should have said "From the Questor of Freeman Downs"?

RDB
Another nitpick: technically that should be "ensure", not "assure"

maxgoof
I think he meant "...to defend my actions."

Whaddaya want, good grammer or good comics?
Quentyn speaks good, like a comic charecter should!

man, am i revealing my age here or what?

Historical side note of things we are too civilized to need:
Prior to WWI, there was a widespread belief that wars were a thing of the past. Society had certainly evolved past the need for such brutal ways of solveing problems. And beside, the world was run by trade and business, and war would interrupt these things.

After WWII, there was a movement to disband the marine corps. The reasoning being that the existance of nuclear weapons made an elite force unnecessary and pointless.
Marine corps.
Airborne rangers.
SEAL teams.
Various shades of beret.

I refer you to Kiplings "The Gods of the Copybook Headings".

squirrelly61104 wrote:Whaddaya want, good grammer or good comics?
Quentyn speaks good, like a comic charecter should!

man, am i revealing my age here or what?

You are revealing your age. Especially if you know these:

"What's the password?" "Peanutiest?" *GONG* "Enter!"
"I want my Maypo!"
"Brusha, brusha, brusha! With the new Ipana!"
"Wonder Bread helps build strong bodies 12 ways!"

maxgoof wrote: You are revealing your age. Especially if you know these:

"What's the password?" "Peanutiest?" *GONG* "Enter!"
"I want my Maypo!"
"Brusha, brusha, brusha! With the new Ipana!"
"Wonder Bread helps build strong bodies 12 ways!"

Not a fuzzy clue.

maxgoof wrote:

squirrelly61104 wrote:Whaddaya want, good grammer or good comics?
Quentyn speaks good, like a comic charecter should!

man, am i revealing my age here or what?

You are revealing your age. Especially if you know these:

"What's the password?" "Peanutiest?" *GONG* "Enter!"
"I want my Maypo!"
"Brusha, brusha, brusha! With the new Ipana!"
"Wonder Bread helps build strong bodies 12 ways!"

How 'bout these...

"...... has been shown to be an effective decay preventive dentifrice when used in a conscienciously applied program of oral hygiene and regular professional care."

"I'd rather fight than switch"
"A little dab'll do ya."
"Greasy kid stuff."
"Let's compare combs."
"Cereal shot from guns."
"Plop-plop, fizz-fizz oh whatta relief it is."
"Control yourself....sure you have a headache, you're tense,
irritable....but don't take it out on him/her"
"Pain...depression...fatigue...pain"
"Promotes drainage, thus relieves pressure, pain"


Lets see just how many "Official Olde Fartes" we really have here.. .Can anybody here (besides me) name the products these taglines came from?

S'aaruuk

ONe of them is Alcazetler, but I only know that cause its famous. Other than that....again...not a fuzzy clue. Or an IGLOO!!!

Sharuuk wrote:

maxgoof wrote:

squirrelly61104 wrote:Whaddaya want, good grammer or good comics?
Quentyn speaks good, like a comic charecter should!

man, am i revealing my age here or what?

You are revealing your age. Especially if you know these:

"What's the password?" "Peanutiest?" *GONG* "Enter!"
"I want my Maypo!"
"Brusha, brusha, brusha! With the new Ipana!"
"Wonder Bread helps build strong bodies 12 ways!"

How 'bout these...

"...... has been shown to be an effective decay preventive dentifrice when used in a conscienciously applied program of oral hygiene and regular professional care."

"I'd rather fight than switch"
"A little dab'll do ya."
"Greasy kid stuff."
"Let's compare combs."
"Cereal shot from guns."
"Plop-plop, fizz-fizz oh whatta relief it is."
"Control yourself....sure you have a headache, you're tense,
irritable....but don't take it out on him/her"
"Pain...depression...fatigue...pain"
"Promotes drainage, thus relieves pressure, pain"


Lets see just how many "Official Olde Fartes" we really have here.. .Can anybody here (besides me) name the products these taglines came from?

S'aaruuk

I'm keeping quiet on this one.

Sharuuk wrote:How 'bout these...

"...... has been shown to be an effective decay preventive dentifrice when used in a conscienciously applied program of oral hygiene and regular professional care."

Crest

"I'd rather fight than switch"

Tarryton Cigarettes

"A little dab'll do ya."

Brilcream

"Greasy kid stuff."

Vitalis

"Let's compare combs."

No idea

"Cereal shot from guns."

Quaker Puffed Wheat/Rice

"Plop-plop, fizz-fizz oh whatta relief it is."

Alka-Seltzer

"Control yourself....sure you have a headache, you're tense,
irritable....but don't take it out on him/her"

Bufferin

"Pain...depression...fatigue...pain"

No idea

"Promotes drainage, thus relieves pressure, pain"

No idea

Lets see just how many "Official Olde Fartes" we really have here.. .Can anybody here (besides me) name the products these taglines came from?

Got some. Not all.

Old people.

Sharuuk wrote:Lets see just how many "Official Olde Fartes" we really have here.. .Can anybody here (besides me) name the products these taglines came from?

So is this the test for the Forum Council of Elders?

Of course I wouldn't have the faintest of ideas...