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Oh dear...a multi-storied house collapsing....this is not good.

Even if the racconans themselves can survive a fall from that height with minimum injury, you have building rubble falling atop you. That can kill, no matter how little you weight.
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maxgoof wrote:Oh dear...a multi-storied house collapsing....this is not good.

Even if the racconans themselves can survive a fall from that height with minimum injury, you have building rubble falling atop you. That can kill, no matter how little you weigh.
At the risk of sounding a bit callous and/or bloodthirsty....So what? Who cares? I surely don't. Look what these two gangs have put our boy thru in the past few hours....he's been beaten by both gangs, been sliced, albiet only superficially due to Q's quick reflexes, and just recently, been beaten nearly to death.....the only reason he wasn't killed was due soley to the Royals belief that it would bring major heat from the City Guards down on them if they did.

No.......if a couple of them get crushed, maimed or killed in the warehouse collapse, (1) I'll be hard pressed to work up any sympathy for them....and (2), Quentyn should feel no remorse whatsoever.

Granted, their treatment of Q doesn't warrent a death sentence, but Quentyn's not trying to kill anyone.....he wants WC back, is tired of being denied the oppertunity and fed up with being beat on......so far, I got NO problem with what he's done.

I would NOT condone however, Q's retrieving WC and strolling thru the rubble killing survivors.....I wouldn't condone the deliberate killing of even one of them......but if some of them die in the collapse......oh well......feces occurs.

Actually, I think bringing down the warehouse was more to break the wards and knock the tappers away from WC and that "barrell o' Lux" he's been schleping around, is going to be used somehow to flash charge (highly) WC and he should be able to "call" it to him.

The above is speculation, but the gist of this post is that I don't care if some of the gangbangers are seriously hurt or even killed in this collapse.

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Well, RHjr said Quentyn is taking precautions to minimize injury or death, so maybe we will find out some way of holding down the carnage. And such injuries would be unintended side effects of Quentyn doing something he desperately needs to do...which is permissable in Catholic morality, although stretching it just a bit.

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Tom Mazanec wrote:I think now the lux bomb is to zap the tappers so Quentyn can easily pinpoint Wildcard in the wreckage.
Point: If the tappers get zapped, Quentyn won't need to pinpoint Wildcard; it will find him.
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Can they they use lux to generate a personal shield?

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Tom Mazanec wrote:Well, RHjr said Quentyn is taking precautions to minimize injury or death, so maybe we will find out some way of holding down the carnage.
Isn't the fighting taking place at the ground floor?
If so, all the gangbangers need to do is rush out the door. Unless a couple of them get stuck in it, most should be able to get out without problem, unless they're stupid/stoned enough to stand there and wait for the building to fall down over them...
And if they are... 'coon pizza?
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The main problem with getting at Wildcard is that it's in the Royal's hideout with physical defenses, lux defenses, not to mention guarded by the Royals themselves. And even if he gets the sword, Wildcard itself is fully drained and isn't much more useful than a normal sword.

So what's the simplest way to neutralize the defenses and guards? Well, dropping the building on the Royals takes care of all three at once. Physical defenses are down, AFAIK, lux defenses have some sort of physical anchoring so when the building comes down most of them come down. If the Royals are inside when their building is down, they're going to be battered pretty badly as well. Presumably Quentyn has precautions to make sure no one is killed by this, just battered a bit.

Battered does not mean the same as completely out. Quentyn's going to have some hacked off Royals which means he'd better get Wildcard, not to mention his own lux-gear like his boots recharged as fast as possible. The simplest way to do that is to unleash a massive amount of stored lux. Overload the tappers, recharge Wildcard, and if he's used up his boots at this point, they're going to be recharged fast.

Of course to bring down the building he needs to make sure the Royals are too busy to deal with him, so he needs a diversion that will keep the Royals occupied. The Redcaps were the perfect solution to that. Tag them, run into Royals territory and the Royals and Redcaps would have at it. Then Quentyn could stir up the dust and use his boots to do a high speed chaining of the support pillars and attach them to the nearest tree-apes.

So my guess as to what happens next is that Quentyn detonates his little lux bomb, Wildcard is restored to power. Quentyn grabs it, probably makes a little farewell to the gangs, announcing his name and position as Questor, possibly do something showy with Wildcard, and then uses the boots to blaze the heck out of the Tumbledowns.

Why give his name? Street-cred. Word will get out that this Questor managed to trash two gangs singlehandedly and recover his property, a very powerful sword. It doesn't do him that much trouble to reveal his name, he's already recognized on sight by both gangs. And it will mean his name gets out to those people who don't like the Redcaps or the Royals, which will increase his popularity there.

Question is how the authorities will take that, but by this point, Quentyn is becoming very indifferent to what the authorities think. An even more interesting point is whether our mysterious patron of the gangs is going to do anything about Quentyn or not, especially when the Royals tell him that he was spying on their transaction.

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I'm not too sure it would be a good idea to go around revealing who it was that did this to the royals and redcaps.

all it takes is one or two who are ticked enough that it happened to hear who did it and, well being the questor of freeman downs isn't hard to find out and it ain't hard to find out where he lives either, I think you get the idea I'm thinking of. In short I don't think it would be safe for him to reveal 'who' did it until each and every one of them are either dead, or arrested for a good loooooooong time.
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But, they already know who he is. . . .

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yes, but they don't know who caused the whole ruckus which is to his advantage.
I still say the doctor did it....

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CasVeg Wrote:
But, they already know who he is. . . .
The Royals know who he is but the Redcaps do not. The Redcaps think the Royals have called them out. Even if the Redcaps did recognize Quentyn they would remember him as the kid who came in asking about the Royals so it would reinforce their belief that the Royals called them out. All the Royals know right now is the Redcaps have attacked them at their base and the base is falling down on them. Putting 2 and 2 together and I bet the Royals think the Redcaps caused the place to fall in. Conversely the Redcaps think they have been lured into a trap and the Royals have brought their base down on them as part of the trap. At this point, why would either side think Quentyn had anything to do with the whole mess?
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We can only hope that they stay too engaged in the melee and mad at each other that they don't end up comparing notes as to who attacked who and who's calling who out.

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There's no point to him <i>announcing his name</i> if they can <i>see</i> him. The Royals will know him at a glance.

To reiterate: They don't know who did this, but they <i>do</i> know <i>him</i>. So, if he exposes himself. . . Incidentally, I don't think Quentyn is stupid enough to do so. They may still figure out who did this, but not from Quentyn.

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Sharuuk wrote:
maxgoof wrote:...the gist of this post is that I don't care if some of the gangbangers are seriously hurt or even killed in this collapse.
Tsk, tsk. OK, so the gangs intimidate innocent civilians and beat and/or slice them up pretty badly, but I don't thnk we've seen any evidence that they've actually killed anyone. So if they get bashed about when the building collapses it's poetic justice, but even with his scary red eyes Quentyn wouldn't kill them unless they were actually trying to kill him or his friends.

My guess is he'll make sure they just end up unconscious and then cut a deal with Mulharney - drop the assault charge in return for jailing the gangs.
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Keep in mind that the Royals were going to KILL Quentyn until the girl recognized him.....that goes to predisposition of lethality. Maybe I'm a bit more bloodthirsty than most, my fursonna notwithstanding, but if I'd endured what Quentyn has at their hands, I'd damn sure be bringing their house down around their ears and if they died in the rubble that's icing on the cake. If killing them was my intent, I would take down their house in a method that would guarentee the demise of all.

Quentyn has done neither, his wish is not to kill, but if some of them don't survive....tough sh*t......these bangers chose this lifestyle....and I don't want to hear any noise about poverty, or disenfranchiment or any other rationalizations......these punks voluntarily performed assigned "tasks" to prove themselves "worthy" of joining whatever gang it was. Remember also that WC as well as all of Q's other belongings were stolen by "Scratch" as a rite of initiation.

Sorry, but the sympathy jar is empty at this point.

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Either that place is coming down, or Charlie Brown just blew the big game again. :D

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As I see it the best case scenario is as follows: Quentyn goes in while everyone is either unconcious, grabs Wildcard, and runs out without being seen. The Guards show up and manage to arrest all the Redcaps and Royals and no one figures out Quentyn's involvement in this and Quentyn can go on his way without being recognized by Mulharney or anyone else.

So why do I get the feeling that this isn't what's going to happen?
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RHjr. has more justification in using this style than Shultz did. His characters are furries, whose muzzles would naturally give that upside-down U shape when screaming.

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