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SolidusRaccoon · Post by **SolidusRaccoon** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:01 am

StrangeWulf13 wrote:I hope it's not like the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins ("bravest little Hobbit of them all...")

Friend of mine showed me a music video to that song, supposedly sung by Leonard Nemoy. Yeah. Spock singin' about Hobbits. Badly.

*sigh* There are some things the 70's and 80's just shouldn't have created. My condolences to Mr. Nemoy on any connection between him and that song.

It's Nimoy, you ninny. And I also have Shatner singing Lucy In the sky with Diamonds. One of the true classics.

Sharuuk · Post by **Sharuuk** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:28 am

SolidusRaccoon wrote:And I also have Shatner singing Lucy In the sky with Diamonds. One of the true classics.

A friend sent me that one too. As both a musician and music lover...................*shudders violently*

Shaaruuk

Tbolt · Post by **Tbolt** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:53 pm

HEY! I liked the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins!

It came on the flip side of "Highly Illogical"
The Album's name was The Two Sides of Leonard Nimoy"
Factoids courtesy Dr. Demento...

There was one more song he did (To my knowledge) and that was "Put a Little Love in Your Heart"

Granted, I don't think any of them were award winners

CasVeg · Post by **CasVeg** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:03 pm

I sometimes picture Quentyn doing his thing to the tune of "Mr. Brightside", by the Killers:

But it's just the price I pay
Destiny is calling me
Open up my eager eyes
'Cause I'm Mr. Brightside

Of course, that's pretty much the only part of the song that fits Quentyn.

EvilJayson · Post by **EvilJayson** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:00 pm

Hmm

As thyme music i think it should be medievil rock or just some good old fasiond rock think the queen songs from a knights tale, you never hear any more rock like that being made nowadays. How would you do medievil rock anyhow? Rock using medieveil instriments or something.

Anyhow I have been thinking about it for a while and i think a tales of the quester movie or series or at lest one pilot episode at lest would be cool.

But insead of flash which would take ages and not look that good unless your one of the gods of flash out there, i was thinking machinma.

Machinma is using a games engine insead of using a 3d pageage to animate everything. The funny thing is that certin games nowadays are better in looks than most cgi movies out there(not the profesional movies the cheap made for tv movies or series)

I was thinking of using the hl2: source engine as, one: it looks really good, two: it is very easy to use and implementing mods and for machinma also they said that as long as you own the game and engine you can use it for machinma as much as you want.

All you need for the movie are 3d models(charaters, props, backgrounds) with textures and other grafical stuff like bitmaps and lightmaps, sounds(sound effects, voices, music), and data(motion capture(can be made with a program now instead of using all the equipment and camara rails and other stuff)

Did you know how a normal movie or tv series is made? its not in one big line as you see it on the screen it is shot sceen by scean not even in the correct order there are meany a film or show that the start and ending are done within days of each other then they do the rest of the sceans.

So anyone interested in doing "tales of the quester" episode one?

-Jayson

p.s. please exscuse the horible spelling and grammor.

Sharuuk · Post by **Sharuuk** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:21 pm

EvilJayson wrote:Hmm...As theme music I think it should be medieval rock or just some good old fasiond rock think the queen songs from a knights tale, you never hear any more rock like that being made nowadays. How would you do medievil rock anyhow? Rock using medieveil instruments or something.

I have nearly 4000 different instrument sounds in my keyboards plus I can alter the tonal and timbre envelopes to change them into pretty much whatever I want. Plus it's a high-end sampler to boot.

Right now I'm taking a mandolin and tweaking on it to make it sound like a combination zither, quilled dulcimer and 12 string. That's what I think a "Zithran" might sound like. That's Fennel's primary instrument BTW.

I've got a medieval sounding song I'm working on right now....gimme a couple of days.......!

Shaaruuk

Earl McClaw · Post by **Earl McClaw** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 6:24 pm

What do any of you think of the music from the two Rankin Bass animations of Tolkien's works? (The first was the Hobbit, from the late '70s, the second a telling of the latter half of the LotR trilogy - in flashback - which appeared after an attempt by someone else to do a rotoscope-like process for the first half.)

Frodo of the Nine Fingers and the Ring Of Doom

Mwalimu · Post by **Mwalimu** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 9:20 pm

The only one I can remember is Where There's a Whip, There's a Way. Not exactly fitting for a Questorverse story

Anthony Lion · Post by **Anthony Lion** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:42 am

Anyone have the DVD 'Wyrd Sisters' (Terry Pratchett, Discworld story)?

Take the sound at the intro with A'tuin, add something deep, like a decent drum or preferably, those overgrown violins that you can hide behind.
(Can't bl**dy remember the English word for them)
Then speed it up just a tiny bit...

Sharuuk · Post by **Sharuuk** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:39 am

Anthony Lion wrote:Take the sound at the intro with A'tuin, add something deep, like a decent drum or preferably, those overgrown violins that you can hide behind.

(Can't bl**dy remember the English word for them)
Then speed it up just a tiny bit...

You thinkin' of a CELLO?

Shaaruuk

Kerry Skydancer · Post by **Kerry Skydancer** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:53 pm

Well, a Raconan could hide behind a cello, but not a human. Maybe a bass violin?

Sharuuk · Post by **Sharuuk** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:18 pm

Kerry Skydancer wrote:Well, a Raconan could hide behind a cello, but not a human. Maybe a bass violin?

You're probably right.....I don't really think of a string bass as a "violin" because most of them I've been around are plucked rather than bowed. I think more of jazz rather than orchestra.

My bad.....!

Shaaruuk

NydaLynn · Post by **NydaLynn** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:23 pm

Anyone have the DVD 'Wyrd Sisters' (Terry Pratchett, Discworld story)?

Take the sound at the intro with A'tuin, add something deep, like a decent drum or preferably, those overgrown violins that you can hide behind.
(Can't bl**dy remember the English word for them)
Then speed it up just a tiny bit...

hmm.... that should do it. I like the idea of some classic rock like on Knight's tale though. Played by a full orchestra or string orchestra would sound great.

Anthony Lion · Post by **Anthony Lion** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:19 am

It may indeed be a bass violin I was thinking of...

They were quite common in the early years of Rock, before everyone got a drum set, and then they did indeed 'plunk' the strings...

Of course, if you want REAL sound, you need a Harding fiddle. 8 strings, but the bow only touches 4 of them. A good musician can make it weep, laugh or sing. (Most members of the hardcore bible-brigade considers it the devils own instrument, possibly because hat's where the legends say that it came from.)
And yes, it has been used in Rock, too.
Please don't try to emulate it on a synth, though.

Sharuuk · Post by **Sharuuk** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:12 am

Anthony Lion wrote:Please don't try to emulate it on a synth, though.

Out of curiosity....why not? I don't try to duplicate an instrument out of malice or to make fun of it, but out of respect.

I love to emulate other instruments, and as they say imitation, or in this case emulation is the sincerist form of flattery. And contrary to what some people think, my emulation of any insturment on a synth in no way "cheapens" or "demeans" that instrument. There are some instruments that I cannot play at all but being able to duplicate their vioce on my KB lets me enjoy the emotion and feel of the instrument no less than someone who would actually be able to play it.

Besides, I first need to hear what one sounds like, as well as what a skilled violinist can do on one.

No offense intended and I take none either, but I find your request a bit odd. Please elaborate.

Shaaruuk

Anthony Lion · Post by **Anthony Lion** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:49 am

Well, first off, I seem to have goofed a bit...
The Harding fiddle has 9 strings, not 8.(4 playable, and 5 underlying to harmonize with the top 4)

I tried to find a decent rock tune, or anything but the 'traditional' boring stuff, but this is the only link I found that looks halfway decent.

http://www.notam02.no/~rauset/mp3/Rause ... ansen.html

Unfortunately, when I click on it, I end up at apple.com and is told to download Quicktime with iTunes, and nothing I do seems to let me download the tune itself...

Here's a more boring one, but it gives you an idea of how it sounds when you 'plunk' the strings...

http://homepages.wmich.edu/~code/hardin ... _plink.mp3

Anyway, if you think you can accurately replicate the harmonics, good luck...

Squeaky Bunny · Post by **Squeaky Bunny** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:30 pm

It sounds like it might be a relative of the sitar.

Sharuuk · Post by **Sharuuk** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:40 pm

Anthony Lion wrote:Anyway, if you think you can accurately replicate the harmonics, good luck...

That's the great thing about a multi-timbral synth. In my case, I have 4 seperate oscillators (sound generators) that can be individually tuned so that I can the get odd harmonics on every key. As to accruately replicating the harmonics, if I can't, I can't. But I'm sure gonna give it a shot.

Thanks for the links tho. Do you know of any particular artists who specialize in this instrument that I could get both "boring" stuff as well as some rock?

Shaaruuk

Sharuuk · Post by **Sharuuk** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:55 pm

Anthony......

Thanks for the links, I was able to both hear and DL the music to listen to.

If nothing else, my main synth is also a sampler and I if I can pull just one note from the Harding off of the MP-3, I can convert it to .wav and load it directly into my kb. Voila'......instant Harding Fiddle voice complete with harmonics. If I map a "glide" into it I can get the same flow from one note to the next without a break or step. There's a musical term for that and I just can't think of what it is right this second.

Thanks much for the help...but you still haven't told me why you didn't want me to try. Not upset in any way, just curious.

Shaaruuk

Anthony Lion · Post by **Anthony Lion** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:39 pm

It's just that I've heard what attempts by other people have sounded like...

Anyway, when you experiment, remember that the lower 4 or 5 strings are NOT connected to the top layer strings. They are threaded through the same wood pieces at the neck and body of the fiddle, but that is all.
How that changes the vibrations... I have no idea...

Anyway, here's a page with a bit more on how it works, tuning and stuff:

http://www.hf.uio.no/imv/om-instituttet ... hardi.html

A classic tune which only the Harding fiddle can do justice:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 5?v=glance

The lyrics and the story of it:
http://www.espen.com/papers/fanitullen.html