Ilya's "Common Grounds" Diatribe

Postby BoxJam on Sun Jan 07, 2001 12:46 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Michael:
<B>(People like that BoxJam fellow keep things so boring.)<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Eat me, bastard.
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Postby Lee Herold on Mon Jan 08, 2001 1:16 am

Who wants to know what I think?
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*cricket chirps*
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*Lee raises his hand*
Frankly, I think Ilya's slams are *SO* over-the-top that if he were slamming me, I wouldn't take it at all seriously. I'd probably liken it to Howard Stern sending Stuttering John out to ask a celeb a bunch of horrible questions when they're giving a speech at the Pediatric Aids Foundation or something.<P>Stern just wants to see who'll play along. He wants to see who doesn't take themselves too seriously. <P>If someone really cares that one guy wants to publicly abuse them and their work, then they probably shouldn't be putting their work out there for the public to see. Because no matter what it is, good or not, SOMEONE isn't going to like it, and they'll say so.<P>All Case has done by hosting Ilya's smears is to generate a few more hits for himself, AND for the comics that Ilya covers---because people are gonna want to see if they're REALLY that bad.<P>Bad reviews are hard to take. Criticism is hard to take. But if you're a creator, you have to be open to them. You at least have to tolerate them. Ilya's articles are neither reviews nor criticism. They're the work of a lone gunman. They're rants. They're meant to tear the comic apart, then see who gets upset. Most of all, if you don't share his dislike for the comic, then they're not meant to be taken seriously. If Ilya's <b><i>THAT</i></b> objectionable, then you simply ignore him.<P>I'm not endorsing them. They're a little too hard to follow to make me laugh. But they don't offend me either. They simply are, and Case is just playing the part of real-life Horse by hosting them. He's under no obligation to toe any lines.<P>---Lee<P><P>------------------
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Postby Michael on Mon Jan 08, 2001 6:32 am

Who asked you anyway, Lee? You're such a girl.<P>...<P>No, wait. I agree with you.<P>Personally, I find Ilya to be an incredibly refreshing perspective on what is pretty much an ingrown community. Since we all know each other, I think everybody thinks it would be impolite to say anything too negative. There are plenty of toons I don't like. Instead of saying anything, of course, I just stop reading.<P>But when Ilya does one of these incredible pent-up raging rants about something I didn't particularly care for (or even something I do), it stirs something in my redneck genetic makeup, something that wants to spit some chaw through that gap where its front teeth used to be, kick a dog or two, and piss on the neighbor.<P>Call me recidivist, but that's entertainment. Ilya makes this place a lot more colorful -- and if you don't like him, well, <I>stop reading</I>.<P>Or attack him. Which has turned out to be a lot more fun. So ... never mind.<P>But Lee's still a girl.<P>------------------
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Postby Lee Herold on Mon Jan 08, 2001 6:53 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Michael:
<B>Call me recidivist, </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>-There's a word for people like you, H.I. And that word is <i>recidivist</i>.<P>-RePEAT O-ffender.<P>-Not a pretty word, is it H.I.?<P>-No sir, that's one bonehead word, but that ain't me anymo.<P>-You're not just tellin' us what we wanna hear, are you H.I.?<P>-No sir, no way.<P>-'Cause we just wanna hear the truth.<P>-Well... then I guess I AM tellin' you what you wanna hear.<P>-Boy, didn't we just tell you not to DO that?<P>-Yes, sir.<P>-Okay, then.
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Postby Michael on Mon Jan 08, 2001 8:20 am

...<P>I ...<P>
I have been reduced to absolute speechlessness. That's either brilliant or the most incredibly inane idea I've ever heard.<P>------------------
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Postby BoxJam on Mon Jan 08, 2001 8:28 am

recidivist jerk.<P>------------------
Here comes <A HREF="http://www.boxjamsdoodle.com" TARGET=_blank>BoxJam's Doodle</A>!
Good ol' <A HREF="http://www.boxjamsdoodle.com" TARGET=_blank>BoxJam's Doodle</A>...Yes, sir!
There goes <A HREF="http://www.boxjamsdoodle.com" TARGET=_blank>BoxJam's Doodle</A>.<P>How I hate it.
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Postby BoxJam on Mon Jan 08, 2001 9:51 am

Jerk.
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Postby Michael on Mon Jan 08, 2001 12:33 pm

Double dog jerk.
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Postby Lee Herold on Mon Jan 08, 2001 12:48 pm

*Dear God:<P>If I ever end up in the slammer, PLEEEEEEEEEEEZE don't let Gav be my cellmate.<P>Amen.*<P>---Lee<P>------------------
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Postby Nowhereman on Mon Jan 08, 2001 12:54 pm

You may like to know,I think this is the funniest forum thread I have ever read. Thanks guys.
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Postby Nd on Tue Jan 09, 2001 1:12 am

I bet if Case came back, we'd have stuff to talk about that wasn't pedantic, boring, or just plain nonlinear. Maybe not though...<P><P>------------------
um, yeah...
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Postby Gav on Tue Jan 09, 2001 2:02 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ilya Olenskaya:
<B>I just love it when people feel the need to bring up old Soviet escapee authors and other such, well, "look at me, I'm one of dem der intersexuals" phrases. I warms the cockles of my heart.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hee hee. Well, who can argue with the master? I can't stay in a bad mood long enough to do that again, so I think you'll find an appalling lack of obscure literary and/or prison rape references from here on out... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"><P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Of course, after reading the entire Nukees archieves, I wouldn't have expected any less from Gav... oddly enough though, I sort of enjoy both the creator and creation for this attitude.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Gee, if you're going to say stuff like that, you make it <B>real</B> tough for me to keep up the Ilya prison shower buddy program campaign.<P>But I must say I am surprised you read more than the first week before making a decis... No! I said I wouldn't! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">
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Postby Michael on Tue Jan 09, 2001 3:16 am

Oh, <I>fine</I>. Now nd is here to kill the thread.<P>I'm taking my bat and glove and going home.<P>------------------
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Postby Ilya Olenskaya on Tue Jan 09, 2001 3:56 am

If Case was here I'd probably be making fun of something else by now.<P>Maybe if I threw in more serial killer references Lee would like me.<P>Or maybe a mu-mu or two for Boxjam... nah.<P>
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Postby ZOMBIE USER 54 on Tue Jan 09, 2001 6:00 am

wow... everybody is starting play nicey nice again. you know, that really pisses me off. i spent all this time sharpening my axe so that i could grind it into somebody's forehead. i guess i'll just have to go to the mall now to find someone to play with. hey lee, can butch come too? <P>------------------
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Postby ZOMBIE USER 54 on Tue Jan 09, 2001 7:17 am

speaking of non-linearity, slashdot posted links to some spiffy articles on quantum computing. not that any of you literary reference obsessed freaks gives a damn <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">.<P>------------------
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Postby Lee Herold on Tue Jan 09, 2001 8:46 am

I can't promise that Butch can discriminate between allies and victims, but hey.
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Postby BoxJam on Tue Jan 09, 2001 10:05 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rickZ:
<B>wow... everybody is starting play nicey nice again.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hey - not me!<P>Jerk.<P><P>------------------
Here comes <A HREF="http://www.boxjamsdoodle.com" TARGET=_blank>BoxJam's Doodle</A>!
Good ol' <A HREF="http://www.boxjamsdoodle.com" TARGET=_blank>BoxJam's Doodle</A>...Yes, sir!
There goes <A HREF="http://www.boxjamsdoodle.com" TARGET=_blank>BoxJam's Doodle</A>.<P>How I hate it.
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Postby ZOMBIE USER 54 on Tue Jan 09, 2001 10:37 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BoxJam:
<B> Hey - not me!<P>Jerk.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>wiener.
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Postby Michael on Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:39 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BoxJam:
<B>recidivist jerk.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Quiche-eatin quirk
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