OH LORD, MY EYES ARE EXPLODING.

Sadoriku · Post by **Sadoriku** » Sat Oct 12, 2002 12:00 pm

A week ago, I was awoken from a deep slumber by an idea. An idea I could follow through on, as I had the means. An incredible, HORRIBLE idea. Scripting began. Heart and soul were poured.

Three days of classes and four days of hard work later, and I come up with this:

(edit: SCROLL DOWN TO NEXT POST BY MYSELF.)

I'm not sure if it's the best or the worst thing I've ever done. I leave you to decide.

The worst part? This is only part one of the horror. There's a whole other page of this scripted and pencilled, I just haven't gathered up the excess sanity enough to follow through with it yet.

(Please forgive my excuse for a literary reference. I had to give James's characters something relatively cultural to say, but I only had one 170-page Understanding Literature text to work from.)

Discuss?

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JimRob · Post by **JimRob** » Tue Oct 15, 2002 9:35 am

Though I can only approve of rapping in an entirely inappropriate way (it's performance poetry, loves), it made me giggle insanely, which is a good thing.

The literary discussion is spot-on though. Except Sybil would be more likely to talk about Ben Jonson's Alchemist than Paulo Coelho's, but that's a minor issue. And I suppose the latter is magic realism, which I can't really deny hasn't influenced me...

Sadoriku · Post by **Sadoriku** » Thu Oct 17, 2002 5:33 pm

Second half done. Alex's opinion on Paulo Coelho's work is my own, but I don't read. Now to die and get this whole sordid deal behind me.

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Big Bad Al · Post by **Big Bad Al** » Thu Oct 17, 2002 7:43 pm

People still listen to rap music? Well my sister listens to crappy 80's music (confirming my theory that she IS the anti-Christ), my brother's into rock and I listen to IDM and Gabber! You can never talk about people's taste as everyone's is different...

Rap music still sucks tho! The lyrics are always full of god damn crap! The limit of lyrics I can handle is:

"You've got so many machines Richard!"
"I haven't got that many!"

Sadoriku · Post by **Sadoriku** » Thu Oct 17, 2002 10:02 pm

I typically don't listen to rap either. The song in question was sent to me by the gentleman I based Oliver upon, which is why he's the rapper in this one. After one listen, I was inspired - and, well, the rest is history.

I'm probably going to cram this into my portfolio alongside several other items of note.

I intend to frighten the people at the Sage University Board of Admissions.

Very, VERY deeply.

W.M.Y.L.G. Joe · Post by **W.M.Y.L.G. Joe** » Thu Oct 17, 2002 11:19 pm

Rap music still sucks tho! The lyrics are always full of god damn crap!

*sighs and rubs temples* Do I have to argue this again?

Okay, what you probably have seen is what the mass media and pop culture displays as rap, and unfortunately this stereotype has permeated a lot of people's minds that ALL rap is like that. Yes, the major money makers are mostly untalented dorks who can't rap and have no sense of the world beyond girls, cars, violence, drugs, money, etc. But if you were to listen to the underground stuff, and the older hip hop (what is now referred to as the golden days of rap, kinda funny to think it has those, eh?) you'd find the songs that DO have thought and meaning put into them and are made by intelligent people who are using the medium in a creative or interesting way. Unfortunately, like the rest of pop music, the majority of the talent and great minds go unnoticed or are under-appreciated. Basically, I'd say before you go using a such a broad brush to paint with, check out the culture first. Learn about and and KNOW who you are talking about. I don't like plenty of country music, but I'm sure there are artists out there who would impress me and have songs I would enjoy. You'd be surprised when you actually learn about a culture. Hip hop is more than what it's made out to be. Graf art, DJ's, B-boys... they've all gone underground unfortunately, but are definitely connected with and used to be a major part of the hip hop culture. It's usually referred to as the "four elements" (the fourth being MC's, the rappers). But now I'm straying from my original point which is please don't say that all rap sucks. Because then I'd be forced to say all furry art is porn related because that's what we've learned from MTV.

JimRob · Post by **JimRob** » Fri Oct 18, 2002 4:36 am

I agree, although I really only like the odder, and frequently instrumental, musical offshoots of hip-hop like Boards of Canada and Skam Records. And the odd bit of homegrown rap. I haven't found any tenets of the culture surrounding it that I can identify with yet.

I like those fast bits, myself.

Big Bad Al · Post by **Big Bad Al** » Fri Oct 18, 2002 4:50 am

Like I said before, most of my music collection doesn't have any real lyrics at all. The only time I've been able to stomach an MC (I know them as "the tit that normally ruins a perfectly good track") is with the 'Public Domain' stuff.

People have there own tastes and every once in a while you find a track you like in a genre you normally despise (my brother can't stand most of my stuff but asked me to copy "Come to Daddy" by Aphex Twin for him). However I can understand the hell that is popular music. Every time electronica gets into the charts it's ether generically bland and poppy (gah) or, worse, a direct rip off of another track! Like The Logical Song "by" Scooter. All Scooter did was take a track called (wait for it) The Logical Song by Ramp, and got some talant-less twat to sing over it! God I wanted to punch that pasty faced c**t in the nuts every time he appeared on 'Top of the Pops'!

ZOMBIE USER 6611 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 6611** » Fri Oct 18, 2002 9:00 am

I was reading this thread, and musing over the notion that approximately 50% of the rap music I have head playing are remakes of much older works not even recognized by most young people, when I encountered this:

Big Bad Al wrote:...or, worse, a direct rip off of another track! Like The Logical Song "by" Scooter. All Scooter did was take a track called (wait for it) The Logical Song by Ramp...

I had to laugh out loud.

Yes, "The Logical Song" was indeed lifted intact from someone else. "The Logical Song by Ramp" is actually instead by a group called "Supertramp". They hail from James Roberts' part of the world. The lyrics were inspired by the book "1984" by George Orwell, which also inspired the recent story arc "Where There Is No Darkness" and Room 101 and is a world that Maxion is entirely familiar with.

Interesting how all the threads weave together, is it not?

A few years ago someone was bragging to me how inventive and creative modern artists were -- and used the currently playing song "A Hazy Shade Of Winter", which had been actually recorded, much to this young lady's surprise, by Simon and Garfunkle some thirty years before.

Yes, there is good new music. And there is some of it in all genres, although I suspect that the proportions vary.

I do not generally listen to country music, but was struck by the poetic and metaphorical beauty of Pam Tillis's "The River And The Highway" -- wonderfully done, and heard only accidentally.

I traveled briefly with "Sounds Of Blackness" as they were just returning from a successful tour in Japan, and we discussed the cultural problems in great detail. We found that we were in much agreement on what I saw as problems:

What bothers me about much of rap is the general validation of violence, anarchy, degradation and debasement of values that it encompasses. A point made earlier -- that all rap isn't like this -- is certainly true. Even all popular rap isn't like this.

But much of it is, and persons with no particular musical talent can still rap -- and they learn this from the popular music as a general thing. So they spread the "meme" of the information that they get -- and the level of culture continues to decline. The best work is hidden, and known only to the Old School rap elite.

Big Bad Al · Post by **Big Bad Al** » Fri Oct 18, 2002 9:44 am

Yeah I forgotabout THE first one... Well that makes it a remix of a remix (all be it a bad remix of a good one) which just adds to the suckage!