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Genecatlow · Post by **Genecatlow** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 1:42 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ThomasKDye:
Boy, poor Gene and CW. I mean, happy new year, let's get some mindless intolerance on both sides. I have to wonder at that father. I really do believe there are people like him, but what exactly have furries done that makes him feel like his idiot son was a martyr? I mean, what kind of spin do humans put on furries in this world? What sort of lies or stereotypes are being propagated?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, for one thing: before civilization had
reached the stage of industrialzation, furs
were not considered genuine intelligent beings
and were therefore legal to hunt in most
places. The arguments for and against that
practice raged on for a long time before humans
and furries finally hashed out a semi-civilized
state of coexistance. But the
romanticized version of that society still
maintains a powerful hold on their world, and
since that version holds that furries are
less than human that prejudice is maintained
by association. Then, of course, there are
the more basic xenophobic feelings, planted
in ignorance and nurtured by hate: looking
and acting different=bad, having different
scent and being able to identify others by
scent=suspicious, having sharp teeth and
claws=threatning, using and understanding
instinct=conspiratorial, the list goes on.
What have any particular furries done to him
that would make him feel that way? Probably
nothing at all; indeed, it's unlikely that
he's ever spent any significant time around
any furs or had a meaningful conversation with
one. But his hate is only that much more real
for having no logical basis for it.

[This message has been edited by genecatlow (edited 01-02-2002).]

Genecatlow · Post by **Genecatlow** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 1:49 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by IronMike:
 Well, if nothing else, this page shows off Gene's stones as a writer. Let's be honest, in most other 'furry comics' that even go NEAR this topic the hatred is one way, with the 'furries' being the noble opressed types. At least Gene has the courage to readily admit that in his world the petty hate-trips go both ways...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The hatreds are petty only in that they are
unfounded. The actual emotions themselves are
very real and deep-rooted. And, as I've said
before, I have to show how things are so that
I can show how things change. So these "two
sides of the same coin" have to take the
stage sometimes.

Shad · Post by **Shad** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 1:54 am

It has been said that it is easier to see faults with others than it is to see them in yourself, and I believe that it is easier to see bad things than good things in others, and easier to see good things than bad things in yourself.

Ekevu Cheetah · Post by **Ekevu Cheetah** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 1:55 am

But I suppose <A HREF="http://sinfest.net/d/20011002.html" TARGET=_blank>that kind of logic</A> has been used to foment such a strong hate. I mean, between someone saying "I don't like furries, I don't care about them and all I want from them is not caring about me" and "furries are the curse of this world and I'm glad my son gave his life against them" there's some huge difference...!------------------
=<A HREF="http://felin.com.br/contact-info/" TARGET=_blank>EFG</A>=

Ekevu Cheetah · Post by **Ekevu Cheetah** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 2:05 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shad:
It has been said that it is easier to see faults with others than it is to see them in yourself, and I believe that it is easier to see bad things than good things in others, and easier to see good things than bad things in yourself.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>This is so right. Everything is easier when you're not part of it. I study in a public university, and half of people there are always talking about revolution, equality, how the president sucks, and anything that involves "changing the world" into their great purrfect infallible plan for the country/state... And these people are so "fleeful" on facing the problems of their own life!------------------
=<A HREF="http://felin.com.br/contact-info/" TARGET=_blank>EFG</A>=

ZOMBIE USER 5169 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 5169** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 3:40 am

Those two speak for fewer people than they think. Remember everything else that happened at the Festival. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">

Sunblaze Wildfire · Post by **Sunblaze Wildfire** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 4:25 am

What I find funny about this thread is no one posted directly to my post. *rolls over laughing* Okay, I thought it was funny. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">------------------
<A HREF="http://www.sunblazewildfire.com/" TARGET=_blank>Sunblaze Wildfire</A> (a.k.a. <A HREF="http://www.bostonandshaun.com/" TARGET=_blank>Shaun Reveal</A>)

CyberCorn Entropic · Post by **CyberCorn Entropic** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 6:47 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Sunblaze Wildfire:
I can say only one thing. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">Let me at them. I show what happens when a furry and a human come together. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.g ... OTE>Not be a damper on your silliness, but how about:"Shriek! Scream! Evil monster! Kill it before it claims us all!"Dang knights/dragons with their anti-dragon/knight propaganda.------------------
"Do you know where a Mister Riviera is?"
"Depends. Does he owe you money?"
"No."
"Then he is me."
"In that case, you owe me a bottle of Polyhex Energon Chaser and a copy of last year's Who's Who Among People You Don't Know."

CyberCorn Entropic · Post by **CyberCorn Entropic** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 6:51 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shad:
It has been said that it is easier to see faults with others than it is to see them in yourself, and I believe that it is easier to see bad things than good things in others, and easier to see good things than bad things in yourself.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>It's also been said that the faults in others that disturb us to one degree or another are faults that we ourselves have or are capable of having.------------------
"Do you know where a Mister Riviera is?"
"Depends. Does he owe you money?"
"No."
"Then he is me."
"In that case, you owe me a bottle of Polyhex Energon Chaser and a copy of last year's Who's Who Among People You Don't Know."

Sunblaze Wildfire · Post by **Sunblaze Wildfire** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 7:32 am

I can say only one thing. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">Let me at them. I show what happens when a furry and a human come together. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">------------------
<A HREF="http://www.sunblazewildfire.com/" TARGET=_blank>Sunblaze Wildfire</A> (a.k.a. <A HREF="http://www.bostonandshaun.com/" TARGET=_blank>Shaun Reveal</A>)

ThomasKDye · Post by **ThomasKDye** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 9:29 am

Boy, poor Gene and CW. I mean, happy new year, let's get some mindless intolerance on both sides. I have to wonder at that father. I really do believe there are people like him, but what exactly have furries done that makes him feel like his idiot son was a martyr? I mean, what kind of spin do humans put on furries in this world? What sort of lies or stereotypes are being propagated?------------------
<A HREF="http://www.newshounds.com" TARGET=_blank>Thomas</A>

IronMike · Post by **IronMike** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 12:21 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ThomasKDye:
Boy, poor Gene and CW. I mean, happy new year, let's get some mindless intolerance on both sides.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, if nothing else, this page shows off Gene's stones as a writer. Let's be honest, in most other 'furry comics' that even go NEAR this topic the hatred is one way, with the 'furries' being the noble opressed types. At least Gene has the courage to readily admit that in his world the petty hate-trips go both ways...

Genecatlow · Post by **Genecatlow** » Thu Jan 03, 2002 6:10 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Tim Tylor:
Those two speak for fewer people than they think. Remember everything else that happened at the Festival. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.g ... OTE>For that matter, observe the reactions of
those in the cafeteria, right there. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">

UncleMonty · Post by **UncleMonty** » Thu Jan 03, 2002 8:30 am

Yes, the reactions of the people in the cafeteria were indicative of the fact that that particular cafeteria must have extraordinary food!Nobody threw anything at anyone!!!OK, maybe they're just REALLY nice people.

Shad · Post by **Shad** » Thu Jan 03, 2002 9:25 am

*playfully throws a scone*

BillBrd1 · Post by **BillBrd1** » Thu Jan 03, 2002 11:01 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shad:
It has been said that it is easier to see faults with others than it is to see them in yourself, and I believe that it is easier to see bad things than good things in others, and easier to see good things than bad things in yourself.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Too true. Although lately, it's been reverse for me.
BTW, here's a little tidbit that's unimportant but kinda bizarre.In the Massachusetts lottery game "Dialy Numbers", the 4 numbers drawn on the night of 12/31/2001 were 2-0-0-2.Weird, huh?

BillBrd1 · Post by **BillBrd1** » Thu Jan 03, 2002 11:04 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by CyberCorn Entropic:
 It's also been said that the faults in others that disturb us to one degree or another are faults that we ourselves have or are capable of having.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yep. I believe it all too well.

Urthdigger · Post by **Urthdigger** » Thu Jan 03, 2002 11:10 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Sunblaze Wildfire:
I can say only one thing. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">Let me at them. I show what happens when a furry and a human come together. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.g ... OTE>Nah, injury would just give them a reason to hate us. How about something indescreet, like property destruction while he's gone <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">------------------
That was original...[This message has been edited by Urthdigger (edited 01-03-2002).]

Genecatlow · Post by **Genecatlow** » Fri Jan 04, 2002 4:08 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Tim Tylor:
 This is Bev's cafeteria. No one is going to start misusing her food in front of her. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gi ... BLOCKQUOTE>
In Bev's cafeteria, you eat. The place
is known for (1) Bev's personality, and (2)
the food. :9
(Indeed, I had to bring the Festival to an
end before I started this sequence. You would
have a hard time getting Sunblaze away from
there.)

ZOMBIE USER 5169 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 5169** » Fri Jan 04, 2002 5:54 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by UncleMonty:
Yes, the reactions of the people in the cafeteria were indicative of the fact that that particular cafeteria must have extraordinary food!Nobody threw anything at anyone!!!OK, maybe they're just REALLY nice people.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>This is Bev's cafeteria. No one is going to start misusing her food in front of her. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">