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So, let's summarize what we seem to know so far:<P>The kid did indeed commit suicide right in front of the entire festival.<P>How he did it is unknown at this time; Gene seemed to indicate that it was by breaking someone internally, but exactly what is probably a spoiler.<P>My question is, how does this advance their cause? It strikes me that the ultimate goal was to show Steven Aviriss that furries were, in fact, the monsters that his father insists that they are...by framing Furriston Security in his eyes for the murder or one of their own. But it's awful hard to fake a bullet wound, or even a broken neck. How can this be seen as anything but a suicide by a particularly fanatical individual?<P>-- ArchTeryx

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ArchTeryx:
<B>So, let's summarize what we seem to know so far:<P>The kid did indeed commit suicide right in front of the entire festival.<P>How he did it is unknown at this time; Gene seemed to indicate that it was by breaking someone internally, but exactly what is probably a spoiler.<P>My question is, how does this advance their cause? It strikes me that the ultimate goal was to show Steven Aviriss that furries were, in fact, the monsters that his father insists that they are...by framing Furriston Security in his eyes for the murder or one of their own. But it's awful hard to fake a bullet wound, or even a broken neck. How can this be seen as anything but a suicide by a particularly fanatical individual?<P>-- ArchTeryx</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The ultimate goal of this particular group is
to drive human and furry society further
apart. What they had wanted was to have one
or more of them victimized by furry security,
and have it happen in the presence of the
younger Avariss, in order to link the entire
incident to him. But, since they were caught
before they could bring this about, they
settled on destroying the festive nature of
the Festival by the only means left to them.
It is indeed a suicide, and to any sane
individual it would be seen as just such an
act, by just such a sadly twisted individual.
But for as high-profile an event to their
world as the Grandville days Festival, that
single act can have a more profound effect...<P>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ArchTeryx:
<B> Ugh. What an unholy mess. It's awfully similar to the motives, it seems, of some of the Palestinian suicide bombers you keep hearing about in the news. At least this twisted little kid only killed himself, rather then alot of innocent bystanders with him. But it's still evil on that level.<P>Thanks for explaining, Gene. My respect for your storytelling ability just went up another notch.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, thought I wish such creatures didn't
exist, I'm glad that the readers see where
I'm coming from in respect to having to show
what these types are capable of. Their world
doesn't have some insignificant little
problem, they have some major sicknesses
going on. Which is what will make the change
just that much more profound.<P>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jamie Jalecki:
<B>I vow, worth of all MY creations of characters, there will be no heartless prejudice amongst the good guys. But I'm afraid an extreme line-crosser has really occurred. Big Mr. Avariss is yet another...dummkopf!</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You have to see how badly the man's mind is
twisted to know why he does what he does.
He's not the type that could say "Oh, you
know, I don't really care for those beasts,
but I'll leave them alone - live and let live,
you know". He's not the type that would say,
"Hm, my son doesn't like me or agree with me,
I certainly don't think I should change, but
I'll respect his decision and leave him alone."
He could never think "Hey, there a celebration
going on of the very thing that I don't
particularly believe in, but I'll just stay
out of it. What? My son is there? Well, that's
no big deal, just because an Avariss is there
doesn't mean that I have to get involved. No
one will attribute his actions to me." That
is just not the type of person Michael Alan
Avariss will ever be.<B> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
But between Steven and his estranged evil father, this calls for an ultimate showdown! Despite the 5th Commandment, Honour Thy Father And Thy Mother, Steven may have no other choice, for it was father who ultimately *dishonoured* him. God save the mixed world.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Steven is seeking honor. Michael Alan has no
honor, not even a notion of what honor is. To
him there is only power, it's attainment and
it's use. <B> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
One thing that's not been occurring lately, the ever-telepathic sight-of-the-soul. Maybe that communication should be the key... But, oooo, the suspense of these cliffhangers, it's more serious than how such worked in classic TV's Batman. This comic has all been sure oriented like in dramatic superhero-adventures, with rather serious plots in parts. Heroes are put to the ultimate test when villains will do their worst! Why, if Superman was at the festival, and that boy dies,...he would angrily scream, which he would in these harsh and fateful situations.<P>[This message has been edited by Jamie Jalecki (edited 12-17-2001).]</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's what makes villians villans, and heroes
heroes.<P>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by genecatlow:
<B>
The ultimate goal of this particular group is
to drive human and furry society further
apart. What they had wanted was to have one
or more of them victimized by furry security,
and have it happen in the presence of the
younger Avariss, in order to link the entire
incident to him. But, since they were caught
before they could bring this about, they
settled on destroying the festive nature of
the Festival by the only means left to them.
It is indeed a suicide, and to any sane
individual it would be seen as just such an
act, by just such a sadly twisted individual.
But for as high-profile an event to their
world as the Grandville days Festival, that
single act can have a more profound effect...<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Ugh. What an unholy mess. It's awfully similar to the motives, it seems, of some of the Palestinian suicide bombers you keep hearing about in the news. At least this twisted little kid only killed himself, rather then alot of innocent bystanders with him. But it's still evil on that level.<P>Thanks for explaining, Gene. My respect for your storytelling ability just went up another notch.<P><P>------------------
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ArchTeryx <P>"So shines a good deed...
in a weary world."
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I vow, worth of all MY creations of characters, there will be no heartless prejudice amongst the good guys. But I'm afraid an extreme line-crosser has really occurred. Big Mr. Avariss is yet another...dummkopf!<P>But between Steven and his estranged evil father, this calls for an ultimate showdown! Despite the 5th Commandment, Honour Thy Father And Thy Mother, Steven may have no other choice, for it was father who ultimately *dishonoured* him. God save the mixed world.<P>One thing that's not been occurring lately, the ever-telepathic sight-of-the-soul. Maybe that communication should be the key... But, oooo, the suspense of these cliffhangers, it's more serious than how such worked in classic TV's Batman. This comic has all been sure oriented like in dramatic superhero-adventures, with rather serious plots in parts. Heroes are put to the ultimate test when villains will do their worst! Why, if Superman was at the festival, and that boy dies,...he would angrily scream, which he would in these harsh and fateful situations.<p>[This message has been edited by Jamie Jalecki (edited 12-17-2001).]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by genecatlow:
<B>You have to see how badly the man's mind is twisted to know why he does what he does. He's not the type that could say "Oh, you know, I don't really care for those beasts, but I'll leave them alone - live and let live, you know". He's not the type that would say, "Hm, my son doesn't like me or agree with me, I certainly don't think I should change, but I'll respect his decision and leave him alone." He could never think "Hey, there a celebration going on of the very thing that I don't particularly believe in, but I'll just stay out of it. What? My son is there? Well, that's no big deal, just because an Avariss is there doesn't mean that I have to get involved. No one will attribute his actions to me." That is just not the type of person Michael Alan Avariss will ever be.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Err... That's sort of an extreme. Reminds me my father. He's a really absent from me. I have talked to him a lot of times, and his posture about me was pretty much like that.<P>When it comes to self-esteem, it's better to have a father who hates you for a reason you find nonsense than a father who doesn't care about you.<P>------------------
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ekevu Cheetah:
<B> Err... That's sort of an extreme. Reminds me my father. He's a really absent from me. I have talked to him a lot of times, and his posture about me was pretty much like that.<P>When it comes to self-esteem, it's better to have a father who hates you for a reason you find nonsense than a father who doesn't care about you.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, he is indeed an extreme type. But he's
an extreme type who wields power. And the
extreme that he's at isn't too far removed
from the society he lives in...<P>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by genecatlow:
<B>Yes, he is indeed an extreme type. But he's
an extreme type who wields power. And the
extreme that he's at isn't too far removed
from the society he lives in...</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I was talking about your suggested opposite, it's an extreme. I can tell you, it's not much better, if not worse. Of corse I mean specifically and <u>only</u> the father-son relationship.