A thought about the touch

Bombur · Post by **Bombur** » Fri Feb 08, 2002 10:43 am

Anyone else get a chilling feeling, that this mysterious girl may have touched our favorite bear's wrists and healed her? Maybe I am a hopeful guy, but something called to me there and told me she did.

Genecatlow · Post by **Genecatlow** » Sat Feb 09, 2002 6:36 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bombur:
Anyone else get a chilling feeling, that this mysterious girl may have touched our favorite bear's wrists and healed her? Maybe I am a hopeful guy, but something called to me there and told me she did. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
We'll see...

Genecatlow · Post by **Genecatlow** » Mon Feb 11, 2002 4:18 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bombur:
Woo hoo! I think I actually nailed something on the head for once in my speculations!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You're very close, yes. What has actually
happened will be clearer as the story goes
on, but there has been something very good
that has happened to Bev. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">

Bombur · Post by **Bombur** » Mon Feb 11, 2002 6:45 am

Good. I think she is a sweety and deserves it. Not many are as pure and genuinely nice as she is. Nice to see something happen to one of the good people.

AtmanRyu · Post by **AtmanRyu** » Mon Feb 11, 2002 8:14 am

One word: Karma <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">------------------
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ArchTeryx · Post by **ArchTeryx** » Mon Feb 11, 2002 8:55 am

I look foreward very much to seeing just what blessing Bev has received. But in the spirit of Elix, I've decided to quote part of a song that seems appropriate for this encounter.I'm waiting for ignition, I'm looking for a spark
Any chance collision and I light up in the dark
There you stand before me, all that fur and all that hair
Oh, do I dare ... I have the touch

Wanting contact
I'm wanting contact
I'm wanting contact with you
Shake those hands, shake those hands
Give me the thing I understand
Shake those hands, shake those hands
Shake those hands, shake those hands-- Peter Gabriel, "I Have the Touch."-- ArchTeryx

Bombur · Post by **Bombur** » Mon Feb 11, 2002 11:21 am

Woo hoo! I think I actually nailed something on the head for once in my speculations!

Elliot N. Golunda · Post by **Elliot N. Golunda** » Tue Feb 12, 2002 8:23 am

Hmmmm....Something else has become clearer: I think I understand why the Shadow People are so shy and secretive. If you had that sort of power, a Healing Touch, and people knew about it, would you know a moment's peace, from that point on? Could you turn anyone down in their need, however briefly, even if only to keep body and soul together?I might want to hide, too.I would think that Cotton would have detected them already through the Sight of the Soul. Unless the Shadow People have learned how to restrain their power(s), in order to avoid such detection.------------------
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Genecatlow · Post by **Genecatlow** » Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:12 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Elliot N. Golunda:
Hmmmm....Something else has become clearer: I think I understand why the Shadow People are so shy and secretive. If you had that sort of power, a Healing Touch, and people knew about it, would you know a moment's peace, from that point on? Could you turn anyone down in their need, however briefly, even if only to keep body and soul together?I might want to hide, too.I would think that Cotton would have detected them already through the Sight of the Soul. Unless the Shadow People have learned how to restrain their power(s), in order to avoid such detection.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
One other possibility.. not directly meant to
foreshadow anything upcoming in the story,
only pointing out another reason: since it's
quite clear that there are those in their
world that have no compunctions about employing
some very brutal means to exploit those who
are, by chance or design, exploitable... is
it not also possible that the shadow people
miight be hiding to keep themselves from
being subjugated and used by the more
powerful members of their world?

Mothspiral · Post by **Mothspiral** » Wed Feb 13, 2002 6:57 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Elliot N. Golunda:
I would think that Cotton would have detected them already through the Sight of the Soul. Unless the Shadow People have learned how to restrain their power(s), in order to avoid such detection.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Sometimes you have to know something is there before you can find it.
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Inside every cynic there's an idealist desperately yearning to be let out, and when they are let out they're usually a real pain and cause all sorts of trouble. --Chris Boucher

Boston Crab Cake · Post by **Boston Crab Cake** » Thu Feb 14, 2002 2:34 am

Bad Karma causes bad things to happen. Bad things happening automatically generates Good Karma. Good Karma causes good things to happen, and does not generate negative Karma as one might expect. Thus there is balance without maliciousness.My karma ran over your dogma.

Ekevu Cheetah · Post by **Ekevu Cheetah** » Thu Feb 14, 2002 5:30 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Boston Crab Cake:
Bad Karma causes bad things to happen. Bad things happening automatically generates Good Karma. Good Karma causes good things to happen, and does not generate negative Karma as one might expect. Thus there is balance without maliciousness.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>No... No. It's not how it works. When bad things happen to someone and they don't even try to react in a good way, it doesn't generate any good karma at all. The inverse is also true, if good things happen to you and you act all arrogant or in some other anti-social way, bad karma for you. If you don't react, you get no karma.So, assuming:
Δκ is the amount of new karma.
φ is the reaction factor.
ν is the nature of the thing.We'll get the following formula:Δκ = |ν| · φBut if you think of it, when something good happens to you and you act indifferently, you get some bad karma. On the inverse, if something bad happens to you but you manage to ignore it, you get some good karma. It leads to the following conclusion:φ = ρ + γWhere γ is the "expected average reaction" to the thing and ρ is how you actually reacted.It's well known that the expected average reaction is directly proportional to the thing nature (ν). But it's not really equal. It can be stronger, or weaker, depending on your "reaction average" too, just as well as the "reaction average" of the people you know (the commonplace factor), so we're going to relate these two. After considering some good/bad reaction/thing values (which I won't go into detail), I will postulate this relation will be most likely a sum. It means:γ = ν + μ·ωWhere μ is the actual mean of all your considerable reactions during your recent life, and ω is the mean if this mean for the people you know. Now let's join that all in a big creepy formula!Δκ = |ν| · (ρ + ν + μω)Note that μ talks about your considerable reactions of your recent life and ω talks the same thing for people you know. These adjectives are really flexible and will be chosen by the one who get's to judge your karma. Nobody else. Not just that, the actual nature of the thing as good or bad will be chosen by the one who will apply the formula.Here's a simple example. I think this post has a very trivial content, and I had some fun writing it. So I think it will give me a tiny and positive ν, which results in a tiny Δκ (but I wouldn't know its sign). On the other paw, I know many people hate Math to death and will hate to see all these cursed Greek letters along with math signs. To them my ν will be huge and negative. <IMG SRC="http://felin.com.br/smileys/embrsd.gif"> All I can do about that is apologise (I'm sorry!! I just wanted to give my part in favor to Karma theories!! I didn't mean to offend!!) so that hopefully my ρ gets a little less negative thus going to φ and then Δκ. <IMG SRC="http://felin.com.br/smileys/blink.gif"> PLEASE FORGIVE ME!!! <IMG SRC="http://felin.com.br/smileys/embrsd.gif"> ------------------
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ZOMBIE USER 7262 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 7262** » Thu Feb 14, 2002 8:04 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by genecatlow:
One other possibility.. not directly meant to foreshadow anything upcoming in the story, only pointing out another reason: since it's quite clear that there are those in their world that have no compunctions about employing some very brutal means to exploit those who are, by chance or design, exploitable... is it not also possible that the shadow people miight be hiding to keep themselves from being subjugated and used by the more powerful members of their world?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Like Mikey!! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">(Michael Alan Avariss' dentist gets another phone call for an appointment...)(...hmmm... THAT's why Bev had the instinctual memory of A6/freedom with the shadow person...hmmmmmmmmm...)

Genecatlow · Post by **Genecatlow** » Thu Feb 14, 2002 8:15 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Elix:
 Like Mikey!! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">(Michael Alan Avariss' dentist gets another phone call for an appointment...)(...hmmm... THAT's why Bev had the instinctual memory of A6/freedom with the shadow person...hmmmmmmmmm...)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Just offering that as a possibility. There
are quite a few of plausible reasons... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">

Mothspiral · Post by **Mothspiral** » Fri Feb 15, 2002 6:56 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ekevu Cheetah:

So, assuming:
?? is the amount of new karma.
? is the reaction factor.
? is the nature of the thing.We'll get the following formula:?? = |?|