Comics and realistic body image

[Phact0rri]

wishmaster....
essentially your argument is, that's the way it is, deal with it.
As someone working towards social change I just can't accept that argument. Maybe it's the fact that I'm going to Berkeley and 20, not yet jaded by "the way things are".

yeah Berkley (the city) isn't a very good assesment of the world. It battles Beverly hills for cosmetic surgury drones. Though, its a choice. people don't feel good about themselves so they do this.

Berkeley definately isn't a good assesment of the world, but plastic surgery drones? Are we talking about the same berkeley full of feminists and queers and everybody but plastic surgery drones?

well I take it you don't know much about the gay community, but Plastic Surgery is quite a popular thing especially for the fading divas. *shrugs* but there is a hell of a lot of plastic Surgery faces about gay or not. I go up there quite often, as my girlfriend's uncle lives in Berkley.

[Wp]

Did you know that in Japan, it became fashionable to drink three cups of cocoa per day? Because three cups will drastically reduce fecal odor, so you'll never offend anyone in the company restroom. http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/ar ... 8000c.html

That's also the country that replaced Ronald McDonald with a girl in a bikini and heels.

There's nothing like good 'ol ethnocentrism to lighten up a conversation about ideals.

[Rocknjosie]

Berkeley, home of the free speech movement and a city so liberal it's very mention sends shudders through the deep south, I just don't see what your seeing. Berkeley, California you're talking about right?

[Dutch!]

Heh...you guys have GOT to come Down Here and check out a little pokey little joint (pun intended) known as Nimbin...

[Blackaby]

Nimbin.
Yeah, Nimbin.

[PieceOfSkunk]

How often do you see a commercial or advertisement that says "you are fine just the way you are?" There is no profit in telling people not to buy products, so no one pays to run that ad. Most commercials tell you that you need a product (and they imply that you are not good enough without it). Too stinky? Buy this soap. Hair not silky and luxurious? Buy this conditioner. Can't get a date with a super model? Buy this sports car.

I'd argue that our culture's standard of beauty is affected much more by the barrage of advertising that we see everyday. The shame and guilt created is done for profit.

Reminds me of Dove's Campaign for Real Beauty.

There really is too much advertisments these days. Everywhere I go, I'm bombarded with ads. There's ads while I'm waiting for the subway, while I'm driving, while I'm in the bathroom, while I'm in the cafeteria and of course, while I'm walking down the street. The home is the only real refuge from advertisements and that's only if you turn off the television.

I can't say that I haven't bought into the advertising world's version of beauty...but I think that it's always healthy to be aware of what advertisers do. They aim to create a need for their product no matter how unnecessary the product really is. I think to expect all of them to act otherwise or to be outraged when they don't is unrealistic.

I honestly can't feel that much outrage at advertisers. Certainly I'm disappointed that they're trying to sell constructed fantasies as reality but at the same time, I know that that's what they do. Advertisers are either trying to sell you lies or half truths because in reality, you don't need most of the products they sell.

These people deal with fantasies. The sooner people realize this, the better.

All I know is that advertising has never lied to me. That's how I know that camels smoke, chihuahuas eat tacos, and bunnies run on batteries.

[Noise Monkey]

and that Trojans were the guardians of safe sex!

[Rocknjosie]

yeah Berkley (the city) isn't a very good assesment of the world. It battles Beverly hills for cosmetic surgury drones. Though, its a choice. people don't feel good about themselves so they do this.

Berkeley definately isn't a good assesment of the world, but plastic surgery drones? Are we talking about the same berkeley full of feminists and queers and everybody but plastic surgery drones?

well I take it you don't know much about the gay community, but Plastic Surgery is quite a popular thing especially for the fading divas. *shrugs* but there is a hell of a lot of plastic Surgery faces about gay or not. I go up there quite often, as my girlfriend's uncle lives in Berkley.

Are you talking about Berkley, Michigan or are you just mispelling Berkeley? Cuz I'm talking about Berkeley, California, yknow where the good school is.

[Noise Monkey]

Cuz I'm talking about Berkeley, California, yknow where the good school is.

[Mercury Hat]

Uh, phact lives in California so I'm going to say yes, he's talking about the one in California.

quit with the "UH BUH SURELY YOU DON'T MEAN BERKELEY WHERE THE BLAH BLAH BLAH" crap, it's getting very old and it's unnecessary.

[Ryuko]

What's funny at the Japanese version of that campaign for real beauty site, you know how they have the "Half empty or half full" quizzes? The one for whether or not the girl is fat (though I can't really comprehend what they're saying, I think it's idiomatic) has MANY more answers on the "fat" part.

[Rocknjosie]

Uh, phact lives in California so I'm going to say yes, he's talking about the one in California.

quit with the "UH BUH SURELY YOU DON'T MEAN BERKELEY WHERE THE BLAH BLAH BLAH" crap, it's getting very old and it's unnecessary.

oh loosen up, of all thats happened in the last ten pages of this thread this is the last thing to get anal over.

[Mercury Hat]

He's made it quite clear what he's talking about, you don't need to constantly say the same thing over and over again for three posts in a row going on about how what a wonderful liberal open-minded GREAT SPECTACULAR WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW AWESOME place Berkeley apparently is. You sound like a travel brochure.

[Rocknjosie]

He's made it quite clear what he's talking about, you don't need to constantly say the same thing over and over again for three posts in a row going on about how what a wonderful liberal open-minded GREAT SPECTACULAR WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW AWESOME place Berkeley apparently is. You sound like a travel brochure.

Why does this bother you so much? And to be fair, I said my view is skewed because Berkeley isn't like the rest of the world, he said Berkeley was full of plastic surgery drones, which confused me cuz that wasn't the implication I was going for at all, I asked him, he replied, and because there are multiple Berkeley's in the world, and since he was spelling it wrong, i asked if he was refering to a different one. I'm just curious as to how someone would have that perception of Berkeley is all, nothing to get bent out of shape over.

[Dutch!]

Where can I get some popcorn?

Actually, nah...I get the feeling I've seen this show before.

Find something worthy to dispute instead of a few repeat questions, eh?

[PieceOfSkunk]

Where can I get some popcorn?

Actually, nah...I get the feeling I've seen this show before.

Find something worthy to dispute instead of a few repeat questions, eh?

Puppies taste better with ketchup. Discuss.

[TheSuburbanLetdown]

Where can I get some popcorn?

Actually, nah...I get the feeling I've seen this show before.

Find something worthy to dispute instead of a few repeat questions, eh?

Puppies taste better with ketchup. Discuss.

Wrong. They have to be grilled with worcestershire sauce.

[Noise Monkey]

I just want to point out that it's not natural to eat your own kind, PAL.

Unless you're undead.

[Col]

I'm a cat person, myself. They aren't as chewy.

[Warren]

too stringy.