Do you have to be born a good artist?

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chibiartstudios wrote: One I can safely say was exagerating things. The other looked frighteningly like George Bush. (the face, not the penis. Grow up.)

And on that visual note I say goodnight!
george bush wrote:"My penis is so big, that popcorn now comes in small, medium, large, and my penis!"
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"Give me to George Bush's penis popcorns, please."

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mcDuffies wrote:"Give me to George Bush's penis popcorns, please."
That statement is entirely disturbing.
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generally, referring to a penis while eating is...

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Warren wrote:
mcDuffies wrote:"Give me to George Bush's penis popcorns, please."
That statement is entirely disturbing.
I've actually found a nude photo of George Bush (not sure if it's real or not though). My readers got to see it as a pre-election filler strip. :wink:

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Politics are inherently evil! Woe, all ye sinners!
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Derailing threads is so much fun.
PeppermintAfterlife wrote:My penis is so big, that popcorn now comes in small, medium, large, and my penis!
Actually, that quote originally came from Drew Carey's 101 Big Dick jokes in his book, Dirty Jokes and Beer. I liked this one better:
My dick is so big, Stephen Hawking has a theory about it.
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cortland wrote:
My dick is so big, Stephen Hawking has a theory about it.
That's one that could horribly backfire. SH also takes an interest in incredibly small things (which are just as interesting as incredibly big things, and have the advantage that they'll fit in the lab).
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The "so big" part sort of precludes any possibility of that.
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Paul.Power wrote:
cortland wrote:
My dick is so big, Stephen Hawking has a theory about it.
That's one that could horribly backfire. SH also takes an interest in incredibly small things (which are just as interesting as incredibly big things, and have the advantage that they'll fit in the lab).
Without the author even knowing, he made a revolutionairy new type of joke.

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And people like me get none.
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TOXIC AVENGER! wrote:
Warren wrote:
mcDuffies wrote:"Give me to George Bush's penis popcorns, please."
That statement is entirely disturbing.
I've actually found a nude photo of George Bush (not sure if it's real or not though). My readers got to see it as a pre-election filler strip. :wink:

I'm so evil.
Bah, you proly only made M&M unexpectedly vote for him.

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See what you did, Toxic????

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I already deleted it from my archive.

Run a Google images search for "gwbush_nekkid" with safesearch off. NSFW. If you do it, it's your own damn fault. :wink:
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Back on topic ... here's a few pictures I drew a scant two and a half years ago. I found an old notebook somewhere in the mess that is my room. Definitely not born with talent here.

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As for pure unadulterated raw talent, I do believe some people are born with it and some are not. I certainly wasn't born with any talent whatsoever, just with a need to create something and share it (though the latter is curbed by my antisocial behavior). On the other hand, both my elder and youngest brother are incredibly talented artists. People on the chatroom might remember my brother's skteches I showed them, and people who read my comic might have noticed I sometimes use my brothers' pin ups on shirts and stuff.

Talent, however, means nothing if you are unwilling to exploit it. Neither of my brothers do anything with their skill, and so it goes wasted. And I do not measure up to their ability right now, but if I keep at it I might eventually get close to where they are.
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There's a book I read called "On Writing" by Stephen King, and it said something there about writing which probably applies to drawing as well.

It was somethinhg like, there are people who can't write for crap, people who are okay writers, people who are good writers, great writers, and then there are the geniuses. A crap writer can learn to be a good writer, a good writer can learn to vbe a great writer, but a crap writer can't learn to write good, and not even a great writer can learn to be a genius.

Dunno if it's true or not, but food for thought.

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All I know is, you have to be born to be a good artist. I don't know any people who were good artist in mother's womb.

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hard to get good lighting in there

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I don't think you're "born" a good artist, as in it's genetically encoded.

I think your various talents and abilities are shaped in your early childhood. Say, ages 0-7. It's the time when your brain develops from being unable to focus your eyes to being able to walk, talk, use tools, read, write, count, ect.
The brain developments depends on the stimuli it gets, in quite surprising ways.

ie. in my case, I learned how to read very early, by reading comic books.
I actually remember reading comics when my attention span was to short to stay focused through a sentence as long as this one.
(I was literally afraid of large word bubbles, lol, because I knew I'd get lost in the middle of it, and I wouldn't be able to follow the story.)
It just happened that a number of the comics I read were Science Fiction ones. And hence I came to like everything SF.
When we bought a TV I was watching a cheesy educational/SF series about aliens from "math planet" that came to earth to examine if the laws of math work here.
It was incredibly cheesy, and for the most part very repetitive (the binary planet was cool though), but I loved it because it was Science Fiction.
I blame that show for developing my math skills.
Both my parents work as architects so the house was full of art supplies, and I was encouraged to play with them, I even attended an art-profile class in the primary school for a while.
By my logic it should give me a bonus to my art skills.
Like most people, I stopped drawing when I was about 11, because drawing stopped being "cool".
Other than the obligatory class assignements I'd draw nothing, for the next 10 or so years.
I was about 21 when I started drawing again, and when I look at the stuff I drew then it's bad, but it's not hopeless. have that thing about the age of 10-12 when drawing just stops being "cool", and
So I guess I did get a bonus to my art skills.

Anyways, I think the "talent" is shaped way before you can make any conscious decision as to becoming an artist.
But due to the random factor you often don't know you have the given talent unless you try, and that's why most of the people that _do_ have a talent for art, will never try drawing.
As for the others, they have to replace a lacking talent with work.

So yeah, that sucks.
The universe should come with a manual or a FAQ that tells you this stuff. *shakes fist*
ie. If you want to become an artist, start practising early on, put more skill points in observation and inteligence, and some in dexterity.
(note: don't purchase PSI skills, they are not implemented yet)

On the other hand it's not that bad.
At least you prove yourself overcoming the challenges.

And it may as well turn out that an average person without talent, that practiced for a month or two, draws better than an average person with talent (Just because the average person with talent draws nothing.)

So yeah, I'll rant some more because I wanted the post to have a conclusion, but now it seems there are two or three of them, and I only needed one, so I'll just talk for a while to make them dissappear and then I'll add the pun at the end, to make it look better. Ok? Oh, BTW, you can skip this part, because there will be nothing interesting in this paragraph. Are you skipping this? Excellent, then I can tell you the meaning of life. The meaning of life is: a group that can not be removed from the board is alive. Usually that means the group has two eyes, an eye is a single empty intersection surrounded by the group. Your opponent can only play inside an eye, only if that means taking your group's final liberty (and killing the group). But if the group has two eyes, there will always be at least one other liberty so it cannot happen.
The other case when the group is considered alive is when it's in "seki". Basically "seki" is a situation when your attacks causes your group's death, and your opponents attack causes his group's death. In this case none of the players is willing to attack, so all groups in question are considered alive.

Back on topic!
Anyways, just draw if you like it. And don't worry that other people have it easier. Do you want to be them? Well I don't. I want to be me. Yes.

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BTW, A success of one's comic doesn't seem to depend on art quality. I'm afraid the promotion is more important.

EDIT2:
*slaps forehead*
Argh! I broke it again.
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"1.Scan in high res 2.tweak with curves,levels or something to clean up the scan (or use channel mixer to remove blue pencil lines) 3.Add colour using a layer set to multiply. 4.Add wordbubbles and text as vector shapes. 5. Merge all layers. 6.resize to the web size. 7. Export/Save for Web" that's all I know about webcomicking.

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Okay, sorry to argue some more, but here's another way of looking at it. I'm tone deaf. I can't sing. Will I, as a tone deaf person, ever be able to sing?
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