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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:08 pm
by Phact0rri
yeah being immortal would be like playing a game and godmode with no turning off fuction.

despite the lack of risk.. there would also be the whole seeing all your friends and loved ones fade ito nothing...

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:39 pm
by Jim North
I believe we can all learn a very important lesson from Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged, the immortal who's sole purpose in life is to insult every single living thing in the universe. In alphabetical order, no less.

And that lesson is, immortality sucks.

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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 3:47 am
by Melody
That literal parodist, Douglas Adams, he is very good. I enjoyed one part of his book where he describes a character as feeling something like a husband coming home to his wife who is having sex with another man and the husband casually mentions something about the weather and leaves. Something like that, anyway. That book made me laugh out loud a few times.

I am a vegetarian, but I do not choose to be. Meat smells good to me, but if I taste it, I vomit. I think I must have had some sort of traumatic incident when I was young. Anyway, the vegetarian sillyness reminds me of an argument Maddox made that vegetarians are only different from omnivores in terms of the magnitude of their evils.

One of my stories (literature) is about a guy who lives forever and is unable to kill himself by his own will. As in, he tries to jump off, say...the San Francisco Golden Gate Bridge, but cannot. He has to die by something that is not of his doing. I need to finish that story. I'll have him go through a few eons. I strongly advise against living forever. Although it should not be a problem if you can kill yourself whenever you want.

I would like to become a legendary videogame designer. Hell, I do not know how I could not become a legendary videogame designer, seeing how insanely talented I am. Also, I want to cuddle with my special lady and grow old with her. I think when we are old and dying, our partners will matter much more to us than anything else.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:22 am
by Sortelli
Oh God, he's spilled out of his thread.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:29 am
by Rkolter
JexKerome wrote:
rkolter wrote:
Sortelli wrote:Strangely, and it may be because I'm still young, but I kinda agree with Ruxen. I think death makes life more important, in its strange way. If I lived forever, I'd want the option to pass on when I think I've done everything there is to do.
You see, I agree that the chance of dying makes living all that much more important. I just think that there are also things you could do and see if you could live forever, that would supplant death as a motivator.
Academic, since no one yet lives forever and that is too far off yet. I myself will only live to be 85. And most philosophers (and vampire book authors) agree that immortality would strip away your humanity, since you would lose empathy with humanity's eternal plight, death. Now, being far far FAR from perfect, I'd still rather keep my humanity that eventually turn into a cold, distant being. I simply don't believe it's worth it.
Academic? You're missing the point. Of course it's academic - however the thread topic isn't, "Unfulfilled dreams that might actually be within your reach". It's just "Unfulfilled dreams". My unfulfilled dream is to live forever. As such, it's not academic. It's very relevant.

As for immortality not being for you, hey fine. Ditto the rest of you folks who seem to believe that humanity and mortality are forever intertwined. I'm not so sure they are. I won't live forever, but I plan to die trying to. :)

So, unless immortality is your "Unfulfilled dream", shut the fuck up and don't tell me my dream sucks.

Thanks, and have a nice day. :wink:

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:37 am
by YarpsDat
Sortelli wrote:Strangely, and it may be because I'm still young, but I kinda agree with Ruxen. I think death makes life more important, in its strange way. If I lived forever, I'd want the option to pass on when I think I've done everything there is to do.
Well, the option to pass could be nice. But if you think you can do everything there is to do in one human lifetime. fah. I have ideas that will last millenium of fun (and that's just for starters)
BTW, sunbathing is not on my list, so I wouldn't mind beeing a vampire.
but the things I could learn!
JexKerome wrote:And most philosophers (and vampire book authors) agree that immortality would strip away your humanity, since you would lose empathy with humanity's eternal plight, death. Now, being far far FAR from perfect, I'd still rather keep my humanity that eventually turn into a cold, distant being. I simply don't believe it's worth it.
people actually call me inhuman already, so I figure it wouldn't be much difference.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:07 am
by Orion
Bah, turning cold and inhuman.

I severely doubt that. I like to think that theres more to being human than fear of death, and just because I can't emphasize with mortals for it doesn't mean I can't sympathize (unless I'm getting the two mixed up, but you get my meaning)

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:08 am
by Warren
Well, since I can't live forever, might as well be an asshole while I can enjoy it.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:28 am
by Orion
not a bad idea :wink:

I figure the only real reason you would not want to live forever is depends on what you think is going to happen once you die.

for instance if you believe death will just be oblivion, only the exhausted or extremely depressed have a reason not to live as long as possible.

Myself, I have no clue what happens when I die, I know I'll have plenty of time to find that out once I've finished seeing everything life has to offer, and that is definitely going to take more than a century.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:58 pm
by Sortelli
Warren wrote:Well, since I can't live forever, might as well be an asshole while I can enjoy it.
Rock on! Er, I mean, SCREW YOU! :x

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:10 am
by JexKerome
rkolter wrote:Academic? You're missing the point. Of course it's academic - however the thread topic isn't, "Unfulfilled dreams that might actually be within your reach". It's just "Unfulfilled dreams". My unfulfilled dream is to live forever. As such, it's not academic. It's very relevant.

As for immortality not being for you, hey fine. Ditto the rest of you folks who seem to believe that humanity and mortality are forever intertwined. I'm not so sure they are. I won't live forever, but I plan to die trying to. :)

So, unless immortality is your "Unfulfilled dream", shut the fuck up and don't tell me my dream sucks.

Thanks, and have a nice day. :wink:
Odd. I always tought an unfulfilled dream is "something I actually had a shot at but failed", as opposed to a dream, which is "something I will do someday", as in "I dream of becoming movie star". So immortality would be your dream, and will not become an "unfulfilled dream" up and until you die; then you can talk to the Big Guy Himself about your unfulfilled dream of living forever. He'll just smile and keep on listening to your rant.

And never, ever, EVER, tell me to STFU, since it just makes me gab more. It's a conditioned response, kinda like Pablov's dogs. :P

So my unfulfilled dream? I would have liked to be a professional soccer player. My defective genes saw to that: a soccer player needs strong legs with strong joints, and my knees are in so bad a way I'm actually a medical oddity. Nowadays they have drugs and treatments and operations that could possibly fix these problems, but like all sports, in soccer you must start young and retire after a decade or so, two at the most.

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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 2:52 pm
by Melody
At least if you live for ever, whether you go to heaven or hell can be decided more accurately. Then again, you'd probably be good half the time and evil the other.